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    I'm ready to pare down my facebook friend list to the bare bones cause everyone and his brother has been shitting bricks over this and my whole goddamned wall has been littered up with "No!" responses to that stupid "Should President Obama be allowed to speak to our fragile little flowers without our say so?" FaceBook Poll all mother-fucking day.

    People are such goddamned idiots it's mind-blowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Agree completely.

    And even though some people consider Obama the anti-christ, he's not the first world leader to get that label. Hitler was considered the anti-christ and so was Ronald Reagan.
    Anyone else remember that cute little numerology thing they used to do with Ronnie Reagan's full name?

    R-O-N-A-L-D = 6
    W-I-L-S-O-N = 6
    R-E-A-G-A-N = 6

    666= the anti-christ! Holy fucking balls! Ronald Reagan is the anti-christ the book of Revelations predicted!


    Ahhh! The good ole days. When the hatemongering was laughable and fun.
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    LOL MrsDark, I kind of remember that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsDark View Post
    Anyone else remember that cute little numerology thing they used to do with Ronnie Reagan's full name?

    R-O-N-A-L-D = 6
    W-I-L-S-O-N = 6
    R-E-A-G-A-N = 6

    666= the anti-christ! Holy fucking balls! Ronald Reagan is the anti-christ the book of Revelations predicted!


    Ahhh! The good ole days. When the hatemongering was laughable and fun.
    Well I'll be damned.
    Add one letter to my first name = 6
    Divide the amount of letter in my middle name by 3, than add 3 = 6
    Subtract one letter from my last name = 6

    Well fuck me. I'm the anti-christ!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    I refuse to consider the word "liberal" a dirty term. Fuck that.

    Liberal and proud of it. Liberal = individual liberty as a responsibility and a burden, contributor to society, improver of environment, embracing of change.

    That's my damn definition and it's the right one.
    Same here. I'm a liberal and proud of it. I'll tell anyone I'm a liberal and refuse to think of it as a "bad" word!

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    President Obama announced that he will give a speech welcoming America's young students into the new school year. Conservatives, happy to fight about anything this man does, came out swinging against the President's "socialist" intentions. And they're winning!

    Basically, the speech amounts to nothing more than our nation's Commander-in-Chief urging kids to stay in school, for, if they do, perhaps one day they'll be president. Floridian Republican Jim Greer was one of the first to seize up over the news, and called Obama's September 8th an attempt to "spread" his "socialist ideology." Greer then got into nitty-gritty politics, and warned that the President would simply be indoctrinating guppies with his liberal politics.

    Conservatives are easily swayed, almost collective organism, so their calls for prohibition only grew more voracious. They took particular offense over the announcement that students would be encouraged to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president."

    Rush Limbaugh was soon on board. So was Glenn Beck. And then Greer reared his head on Hardball this evening. Though he and his knows Presidents often address students, this is different, because Obama's a proselytizer of anti-American madness.

    The debate has become so heated, in fact, that school districts in six states are refusing to show the video, for, it would seem, they believe Greer's worries that anti-Obama kids will be "ostracized." This couldn't be further from the truth.

    First of all, kids are kids and, if our increasingly dim childhood memory serves, don't care much for nitty-gritty policy. They care about recess and juice boxes. By folding to conservative pressure, schools and parents both are tacitly vilifying the President when, in fact, even if he were to discuss policy, most kids wouldn't care or would forget about it after cartoons.

    Perhaps the most worrisome aspect of this outrage is that the kids are being denied an opportunity to hear directly from the President, a man to whom some civics classes — if such things still exist — encourage. Democracy goes both ways, we're taught, so wouldn't hearing a generic message about the importance of education be an important lesson in and of itself?

    If you ask us, America's children would definitely benefit from hearing the President, particularly the nation's first black president, discuss the necessity of reading, writing and arithmetic. Especially since a Florida school distract just now, in 2009, removed the term "negro" from its racial background form.

    Meanwhile, the White House has caved and agreed to release the speech's text ahead of the event. They also changed the announcement letter's language about "helping the president" to "write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals." Both moves only give validity to these inane, unnecessary protests.

    At least the kids learned one valuable lesson: bitch loudly and often enough and you can bring the White House to its knees.
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    surprise, more spinelessness and caving.. the usual Obama strategy.
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    Well. Until I heard about this issue, I considered myself an Independent. I am now so deeply and profoundly ashamed of this country that I don't think I can call myself that any more. I can't imagine that I would ever vote for a Republican under any circumstances ever again, no matter how small the office. I think I am now a Democrat. I don't think I'm the only one who's been pushed over the edge by this craven and disgusting display. I am sickened beyond belief. This has been a mind-blowing moment for me. Wow. Not allow the President of our country to give a speech to public school students. Fucking civil servants (because that's what teachers and principals are) deciding they're not going to allow the President to speak to their students because of their political persuasions. Censorship by fucking teachers. Holy Mother of God.

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    uh, what's worse is the White House meekly caving.
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    Not to me. To me the bully is more cowardly and disgusting than the person who gives in to the bully.

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    even when it's a municipal teacher versus the most powerful man on the planet?
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    I am disgusted by all.
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

    Come on, let's have lots of drinks.

    Fuck you all, I'm going viral.

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    Yes, the little, petty, small-minded bullies who are imposing their ignorance on children are much more foul.

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    The American right has directed many silly and offensive attacks at President Obama. But so far nothing compares with the news that right-wing demagogues on talk radio and the Web, along with Republican Party officials, are trying to stop children from hearing the president urge them to stay in school — because, they say, that is socialist propaganda.

    Perhaps this shouldn’t come as a surprise after a summer in which town hall meetings on health care have been turned into mindless shouting matches, where protesters parade guns and are cheered on by elected officials. Not only Sarah Palin, but people who know better — like Senator Charles Grassley — have been tossing around the fiction that Mr. Obama is planning to institute “death panels” to speed the infirm elderly to their ends.

    Still, it was startling to read in Friday’s Times about the overheated and bizarre response to Mr. Obama’s plan to give a speech in a Virginia school next week that schools around the country also can show.

    The White House says Mr. Obama will talk about the importance of education — hardly, we hope, a controversial topic. But the article said that in a growing number of school districts, especially in Texas, parents, talk-show hosts and some Republican officials are demanding that schools either refuse to show it or allow parents to keep their children home. The common refrain is that Mr. Obama will offer a socialist message — although nobody said what they meant by that.

    There is, of course, nothing socialist in any of Mr. Obama’s policies, as anyone with a passing knowledge of socialism and its evil history knows. But in this country, unlike actual socialist countries, nobody can be compelled to listen to the president. What is most disturbing about all this is what it says about the parents — and the fact that they have such little regard for their children’s intelligence and ability to think.
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    Apparently the public school system in my hometown has made the speech optional. The private school system will not be showing it. Not surprising at all since we wasted (OK, I was slightly elated to have it cut into calculus class) 3 class periods to watch the popes funeral. My math teacher literally sat at her desk crying, praying in spanish, doing the sign of the cross for 45 minutes. But GOD FORBID (pun intended) we watch Obama and his evil socialist subliminal messages. So disappointed.

    In the wake of a national controversy surrounding a presidential speech to the nation’s students, the Brownsville Independent School District has left the decision of whether or not to air the broadcast up to individual schools.

    "After doing a check on our schools, it appears that all will make the Obama message available somewhere in the school," said Drue Brown, public information office for BISD. "I can’t find one that is not showing it."

    However, the district’s schools will allow students to opt out of watching the speech if their parents do not wish them to view it.

    The president will deliver the speech, about the need to work hard and stay in school, from Wakefield High School in Arlington, Va. His words will be broadcast on television and on the White House Web site at noon Central Daylight Time.

    Parents will be able to read the text of the address Monday on the White House Web site, so they can decide whether they want their kids to watch it or not.

    Though the speech is slated to simply relate to educational success, some conservatives, driven by radio pundits and bloggers, are urging schools and parents to boycott the address. They say Obama is using the opportunity to promote a political agenda and is overstepping the boundaries of federal involvement in schools.

    ``As far as I am concerned, this is not civics education — it gives the appearance of creating a cult of personality,'' said Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Steve Russell. ``This is something you'd expect to see in North Korea or in Saddam Hussein's Iraq.''

    BISD schools sent a letter home to parents on Friday, letting them know that the speech would be broadcast.

    "If you wish your child not to view the broadcast, please send a note with them on Tuesday," reads the letter from Martin Elementary Principal Gilda Jo Peña to parents. "We will respect your request and make accommodations for them."

    Peña said that her school had not received any calls from concerned parents as of Friday and that the biggest conflict with airing the speech was its timing.

    "It’s on at noon, so a good chunk of our kiddos will be in the cafeteria," Peña said.

    Brown said the district had received a handful of calls from parents.

    "We explained to them that it’s an optional thing," Brown said.

    Mary Shoupe, the office manager of the private Valley Christian High School, said the school would not be airing the speech. The principal of the school was not available for comment.

    Districts in states including Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Virginia and Wisconsin have decided not to show the speech to students. Officials in other school districts are still thinking it over or are letting parents have their kids opt out.

    "I think it’s really unfortunate that politics has been brought into this," said Heather Higginbottom, White House deputy policy director, in an interview with The Associated Press.

    "It’s simply a plea to students to really take their learning seriously, find out what they’re good at, set goals and take the school year seriously."

    She noted that President George H. W. Bush made a similar address to schools in 1991. Like Obama, Bush drew criticism, with Democrats accusing the Republican president of turning the event into a campaign commercial.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican, said in an interview with the AP that he’s "certainly not going to advise anybody not to send their kids to school that day."

    "Hearing the president speak is always a memorable moment," he said.

    But he also said he understood the criticism.

    "Nobody seems to know what he’s going to be talking about," Perry said. "Why didn’t he spend more time talking to the local districts and superintendents, at least give them a heads-up about it?"

    Several other Texas districts have decided not to show the speech, although the district in Houston is leaving the decision up to individual school principals.

    At Martin Elementary, Peña said the speech should be a positive experience for students.

    "Truly the bottom line is that it’s for the students," Peña said. "It’s about the students — encouraging them to continue on their way.
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    I wish I could vomit on cue. Seriously, wtf is this? Is this not considered unpatriotic?

    It bothers me and then I realize that I have just as many guns and just as much ammo as these freaks. Is that really what all this is about?
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

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