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    The internet is shocked over Armie Hammer's alleged leaked private messages, which contain some truly disturbing content. On Jan. 10, 2021, screenshots of cannibalistic and graphic DMs (via The Sun) leaked on social media from a woman who claims that Armie Hammer sent them to her now-private Instagram account, House of Effie, per the Daily Mail.

    In the dozens of messages, Hammer allegedly details his apparent sexual fantasies, writing, "I am 100 per cent a cannibal. I want to eat you... I've cut the heart out of a living animal before and eaten it still warm." Another message says, "I need to drink your blood," and another describes wanting to "cut off one of your toes and keep it with me in my pocket," per The Sun. The messages also refer to the woman as a "slave" who Hammer wants to be his "property till you die." Per the Daily Mail, the unconfirmed DMs range from 2016 to 2020. The anonymous source also shared a photo Hammer allegedly sent her, showing a tattoo he does have on his finger.

    Ex-girlfriend Jessica Ciencin Henriquez, who began dating Hammer after his 2020 divorce from his wife of 10 years, Elizabeth Chambers, tweeted she believed the nightmarish messages. "If you are still questioning whether or not those Armie Hammer DMs are real (and they are) maybe you should start questioning why we live in a culture willing to give abusers the benefit of the doubt instead of victims," she wrote, per OK Magazine.

    Armie Hammer, whose 2020 split from Elizabeth Chambers resulted in strange behavior including drinking a beer while driving, has yet to release a statement on the distressing matter as of this writing.

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    ^hahaha!

    i find all of this to be very disturbing. i've read multiple articles on it and i just can't.
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    House of Effie - Effie is it you? You can tell us!
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    Yeah, it's been known for years he's into BDSM - he liked some tweets in that vein and you can see what tweets people have liked on their profile. I'm pretty sure he's even made statements in interviews that he likes 'kinky' sex. But this is next level. I know someone came out and claimed they'd made all the messages up but honestly I think that's PR bollocks - there's a picture of a mannequin in some gear with his hand in the shot, it's definitely him because of the tattoo, and also I think it's in front of a swimming pool that his wife had posted a photo of their daughter in front of previously.

    Beyond the cannibalism and BDSM, seems like he frequently was unfaithful to his wife, too. What a guy.
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    I can't even remember where I read this but it was a long time ago, might have been around the time of that German dude who was actually a cannibal, but anyway it would appear that the cannibal fantasy is not that uncommon, and obviously the vast majority of people with that fantasy don't actually want to eat anyone for real. Same with rape fantasies, which are incredibly common, among both women and men. I think it's one of the most common fantasies among women actually. Basically, it's perfectly normal to be sexually turned on by things that are considered taboo in society. Which also explains why incest porn is so popular. 99.999999% of people with these fantasies are turned on by the fantasy and wouldn't ever want to act it out for real. That's separate from actually disturbed individuals who want to do it for real, like the cannibal dude in Germany.
    So yeah, I guess armie is into kinky sex and BDSM and dominance. Not my thing, but hey as long as it's all among consenting adults, who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post

    So yeah, I guess armie is into kinky sex and BDSM and dominance. Not my thing, but hey as long as it's all among consenting adults, who cares?
    But what about the live animal that he ripped the heart out of? Allegedly.
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    I just looked him up, his face has zero memorable features, just another very privileged bland white man boy.
    Are we sure that that Cannibal Tweet was not a really bad, awkward joke about oral sex?
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    Even as a fantasy this is too gross for words. I wanted to like him because he's so pretty and was funny as the Vinkelvoss twins, but everything I've read about him as a person makes me believe he's a complete ass (if not worse).

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    ^^^I don't understand the appeal of such kinks either.
    I looked him up again and allegedly he does practice unsafe BDSM - as in unsafe for the women involved, of course - like in disregarding safe words, pushing boundaries and threatening them.
    He is a real catch, obviously.
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    We've already established that 2021 will be a continuance of headlines you never thought you'd see in real life.
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    It’s Hammer Time

    There were two lanes on social media on Sunday: processing the events that led to an attempted coup in the world’s most powerful nation and Armie Hammer’s alleged DMs. I will be in the Armand express lane. If you saw “the Michael Phelps of f-cking” on Twitter and don’t know why, I am here to explain as best I can.

    Lainey and I were texting about this last night as Armie Hammer was trending on Twitter because the tweets about the alleged DMs are, per usual, better than the DMs. I’m not going to get into Armie’s kinks or sexual desires or the content of his messages, but we have to acknowledge that the reason they are getting so much attention is because they deal with cannibalism, drinking blood, domination, and rape fantasies. It appears he calls his sexual partners “kittens.”

    In these alleged messages, he’s both needy and fickle, sending multiple texts to someone, begging for their attention and then, going by some accounts, ghosting when he arrives in their city. Here are some of the screenshots, including audio. These have not been independently verified by anyone and, because Armie is so “active” in this realm (his DMs have been leaked before), catfishing accounts could use him to lure people into conversation.

    Some people are reacting strongly, believing that Armie’s fame puts him in a position of power to manipulate these women. The DMs are not super clear-cut in terms of timelines or relationship and power dynamic (in terms of what partners were into and what they weren’t). Again, I’m not here to comment on the kink but rather the behaviour of a celebrity who has done some whacky sh-t on social media.

    It kicked off, for me, with the toe-sucking video, which made USA Today and was framed as Armie being “dad shamed”. Now do kids do stuff like that at home? I guess. But we didn’t need to see it. Armie is famous and that video will carry into his children’s adulthood - he and his (now ex) wife cannot play dumb and aggrieved about that. Posting it with a foot fetish hashtag is not going to go well for parents of any toddler, let alone someone with millions of followers.

    There have been other missteps too, like trying to lambaste actors for posting tribute photos to Stan Lee. This past summer, before he announced his divorce, I wrote about him golfing and chugging beer in the Cayman Islands as the US was grappling with the first wave of COVID-19. But we can go further back, all the way to 2017, when he got upset about a piece Anne Helen Petersen wrote for Buzzfeed and, as Lainey said at the time, he picked up his toys and went home. He quit Twitter back then. Maybe he should have stuck with that instinct?

    Or, if we look at it from a gossip perspective, he knows exactly how it works. He’s all over Deux Moi (and I strongly suspect he knows this) and seems to be unafraid to put his stuff in writing, multiple times with multiple people, knowing that it could be leaked (even inadvertently) with the click of a button. Is this part of the kink? Is he into the danger of being found out? Or the rush of the trending?

    It’s interesting because social media is pretty anti-sex (and very anti-sex worker) and yet Armie is putting it out there, thirsting over Timothée Chalamet and rubbing his divorce dad pheromones all over the place.

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    50 Shades of Armand

    Last night, Lainey texted me about writing a followup on Armie Hammer’s DMs (catch up on my first piece here) and I had to ask her what was new. She sent me a link on the cannibalism DMs and I was like oh ya, I read about him wanting to cook skin. As if that’s a normal gossip story?!

    As I wrote in my first post, the discussion around these DMs should be separated from kinks (and kink shaming), which are also separate from the abuse allegations. There are several things at play here: kink is still seen as taboo and having these messages leaked could cause harm (the same way nude leaks are meant to harm female celebrities). The flipside is that leaking the DMs is a way for these women to protect themselves from a rich and powerful celebrity.

    But there are allegations of different kinds of mistreatment perpetuated by Armie, from not respecting boundaries and safe words to manipulation to outright abuse. Though I am not at an expert about the kink community, I do remember that some of the criticism around 50 Shades of Grey was that consent is not enough. The BDSM community takes these conversations incredibly seriously, as they should. In a Globe and Mail piece written by Charyn Pfeuffer in 2017, this stood out for me: “On her show, Sex Gets Real, [podcast host Dawn] Serra often discusses the importance and practicalities of two core BDSM beliefs about consent: that all acts should be safe, sane and consensual, or SSC, and that everyone should practise risk-aware consensual kink, or RACK.” The BDSM community already suffers from stigma from a sex-negative society that has not figured out how to talk about consent as a nuanced, ongoing conversation, so I can absolutely understand the frustration of those who don’t want Armie Hammer lumped in with their community.

    Some tweets I’ve seen point out that, based on the DMs, Armie isn’t practicing his kink in a safe and consensual way. Again, I would defer to his partners on that. Writer Jessica Ciencin Hernandez, who dated him back in September, is private on Twitter (at the time of writing this) but before she locked her account, she had a tweet that read, “If you are still questioning whether or not those Armie Hammer DMs are real (and they are) maybe you should start questioning why we live in a culture willing to give abusers the benefit of the doubt instead of victims." There is a screenshot of it here.

    Last night, DeuxMoi posted this about the forthcoming emotional, physical, and mental abuse allegations.

    If we look at this from a pop culture perspective, there’s been minimal coverage. At the time of writing, there was nothing on PEOPLE or Us Weekly, and E! had a basic story on it, including an allegation that one of the original accounts that kicked it off (@houseoffeffie) admitted to faking it, but then posted that the “I faked it” screenshots are fake. It’s confusing.

    Publications are not touching the story right now because it’s messy as f-ck and the DMs haven’t been verified (it looks like there’s been deletion of some messages as some read like a one-sided conversation). There is probably someone working on a larger piece on this (maybe the LA Times?) but that kind of investigative reporting goes through fact-checking and a legal department, which doesn’t move as fast as social media. This kind of deep reporting can take months.

    But the problem with social media is that there’s so much noise, particularly around celebrities, so many people skim the “Armie Hammer’s NSFW DMs leaked” headlines and move on. Even the “cannibal” headline in The Sun, which would usually be a huge story, is not getting a lot of play.

    If Armie is hoping this goes away, timing is on his side. There’s so much news right now, from the upcoming inauguration in the US to the COVID surge to the Oscars. He’s one big celebrity divorce announcement away from being totally out of the conversation. That is totally wild, considering it’s cannibalism and allegedly abusive behaviour and/or alleged violence, which I feel should get at least some attention?!

    He could, right now, still be DMing with people because, as I said in my first piece on this, he does it with abandon. He does not seem to exercise any discretion or concern for privacy (his own or others). He must know (and maybe enjoy?) that his business could be out there for everyone to read. The recklessness seems like it’s part of the rush.

    Also on DeuxMoi is an allegation that he has a text group in which he sends pictures and talks about his sexual exploits. Who doesn’t talk about sex with their friends? That’s pretty normal. What would not be cool is if he was sending nudes to his friends without the explicit permission of his partners, even more so if they are engaging in sensitive, trust-based dom-sub relationships.

    So far, his team hasn’t said a word and he has shown some restraint by not going on Twitter (which is interesting, considering a story on his career in Buzzfeed once led to him delete his account). The current strategy could just be to wait it out, hoping the story dies and that a bigger piece from a publication (like the LA Times or New York Magazine or Washington Post or The New York Times) isn’t forthcoming. They could outright deny the DMs are his and/or lean into the “I’m being kink shamed” line of defence. He could go into treatment or rehab (to address the misconduct allegations). There’s also the chance that he goes full Armand and tries to make a bad joke out of it or gets huffy in the comments.

    The silence has been uncharacteristic for him and I wonder if there’s a longshot strategy at play here. He’s in the Cayman Islands with his family – could a reconciliation with his wife be at play? I know it sounds totally farfetched but have you seen it out there? 2021 is wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    But what about the live animal that he ripped the heart out of? Allegedly.
    I mean, he also said he wants to eat her fingers and that she'll be his property until she dies. Has he done anything that would warrant any kind of investigation? I could be wrong, but so far I haven't seen anything that would indicate that anything he said should be taken literally.

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    ^^^I don't understand the appeal of such kinks either.
    I looked him up again and allegedly he does practice unsafe BDSM - as in unsafe for the women involved, of course - like in disregarding safe words, pushing boundaries and threatening them.
    He is a real catch, obviously.
    Obviously, if that's the case then yeah he's an ass and possibly a danger to women, even if he doesn't actually want to eat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty Bike View Post
    Are we sure that that Cannibal Tweet was not a really bad, awkward joke about oral sex?
    I already didn't like the word "eating" for oral - it encourages bad technique. But just think how a guy like Armie could grab and run with it...
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