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    Quote Originally Posted by olivia View Post
    It will discourage others, though, from sharing internal documents. You don't think this witch hunt is politically motivated? Really? Come on. The Banks have been after Assange for a few years now.
    Whatever happens to Assange won't discourage others from leaking internal documents. He merely received the documents and disseminated (not leaked) them.

    Whatever happens to Private Manning (who actually leaked the defense material) might discourage others from leaking internal documents.

    Also, the proper application of SIPRnet and JWICS standards (as Manning alluded to) also would discourage others from leaking internal documents.

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    I'll be honest and say this whole leaked docs confuses me. If your job states you cannot share this data and it is owned by your employer, then leaking them is theft. Publishing them would be possession and dissemination of stolen documents. I'm not making comment on the contents of the docs at all -just the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    I'll be honest and say this whole leaked docs confuses me. If your job states you cannot share this data and it is owned by your employer, then leaking them is theft. Publishing them would be possession and dissemination of stolen documents. I'm not making comment on the contents of the docs at all -just the process.
    Bradley Manning is the military guy who leaked the documents to WikiLeaks. He was able to do it because of flaws in the application of JWICS and SIPRnet protocols. He is in solitary confinement right now, and is being court martialed, I believe.

    Whatever military officer supervised the operations that let a guy like Manning, who had been shown to be untrustworthy previously, have access to confidential files, should be ejected from his duties immediately.

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    Can you charge an Australian under the Espionage Act? Who's he a spy for? The hardworking little people of the world who now know all is not what it seems?

    Congress is acting all "he's a traitor to America!" Doesn't he have to be an American to be a traitor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    Can you charge an Australian under the Espionage Act? Who's he a spy for? The hardworking little people of the world who now know all is not what it seems?

    Congress is acting all "he's a traitor to America!" Doesn't he have to be an American to be a traitor?
    He can't be charged with treason, but he probably could be charged with espionage. The United States, the Soviet Union, China, et. al. have used espionage statues to arrest numerous foreign nationals who have illegally obtained state secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    Bradley Manning is the military guy who leaked the documents to WikiLeaks. He was able to do it because of flaws in the application of JWICS and SIPRnet protocols. He is in solitary confinement right now, and is being court martialed, I believe.

    Whatever military officer supervised the operations that let a guy like Manning, who had been shown to be untrustworthy previously, have access to confidential files, should be ejected from his duties immediately.
    Yes I understand about Manning. But should the wikileaks people be charged along the lines of receiving and selling stolen property?
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    He's been denied bail too.
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    The SNL skit with his was very funny as was the Weekend Update piece.
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    Really when you think about it, it represents how corrupt the United States is. It's something we should be ashamed of, quite frankly. Even in businesses, there is corruption. You can't dispute that.

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