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Thread: Why the hell should I feel sorry, says Lynndie England

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    um shock of all shock she's a hillbilly!

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    A part of me isn't surprised at all... she was despicable enough to actually engage in the Abu Ghraib bullshit so it really isn't that shocking to me that she's despicable enough to try and profit off of it, too. "Celebrity" my ass... I'd like to go to her book signing just to backhand her across the face.

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    pos

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    My goodness, she is vile and apparently proud of it! One can only hope her kids turn out differently.

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    FOAD, Bitch!

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    I'm sure all the rabid pro war types are all behind her, with the usual crapola about how the 'insurgents' actions were far worse than abu, so no need to linger or apologize for abu.

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    I know I need to cut down on my swearing and have been making a conscious effort to do so, however that could all go out the window right about now...

    Christ.

    What a fucking mole.
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    Disgusting bitch.

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    She is such a cock-eyed, inbred, mannish troll.



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    I know I'm naive, but I find it so hard to believe that some people don't look upon others as human beings.
    If I can't be a good example, then let me be a horrible warning.

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    I bet she's not even good at eating cereal.


    Complete waste of space.
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    There'll be times you'll like the cover and that's precisely why you'll love the book
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    Disgusting troll.

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    Default Abu Ghraib scandal haunts W.Va. reservist

    (It haunts her because she hasn't earned $$$ from her experiences. Yet.)

    Abu Ghraib scandal haunts W.Va. reservist - Yahoo! News

    KEYSER, W.Va. More than two years since leaving her prison cell, the woman who became the grinning face of the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal spends most of her days confined to the four walls of her home.
    Former Army reservist Lynndie England hasn't landed a job in numerous tries: When one restaurant manager considered hiring her, other employees threatened to quit.
    She doesn't like to travel: Strangers point and whisper, "That's her!"
    In fact, she doesn't leave the house much at all, limiting her outings mostly to grocery runs.
    "I don't have a social life," she says. " ... I sit at home all day."
    She's tried dyeing her dark brown hair, wearing sunglasses and ball caps. She even thought about changing her name. But "it's my face that's always recognized," she says, "and I can't really change that."
    England hopes a biography released this month and a book tour starting in July will help rehabilitate an image indelibly associated with the plight of the mistreated prisoners.
    It's difficult to forget the pictures that shocked millions in 2004: In one, she holds a restraint around a man's neck; in another, she's giving a thumbs-up and pointing at the genitals of naked, hooded men, a cigarette dangling from her mouth.
    "They think that I was like this evil torturer. ... I wasn't," she says. "People don't realize I was just in a photo for a split second in time."
    In an interview with The Associated Press to promote her biography, "Tortured: Lynndie England, Abu Ghraib and the Photographs that Shocked the World," the 26-year-old England said she's paid her dues and repeatedly apologized.
    While admitting she made some bad decisions, England says it wasn't her place to question the "softening-up" treatments sanctioned long before she arrived.
    "We were just pawns," said England, who's appealing her conviction and has her next hearing in July. "People were just playing us."
    A jury of five Army officers, however, rejected England's claims that she was only following orders and trying to please the father of her child, former Cpl. Charles Graner Jr., who's currently imprisoned for his role.
    Christopher Graveline, the lead prosecutor at her trial and now an assistant federal prosecutor in Michigan, said England and the other defendants are free to present their side to the media.
    "But they presented the same facts to the jury, and the jury rejected them," he said.
    England was convicted of conspiracy, mistreating detainees and committing an indecent act, one of 11 soldiers found guilty of wrongdoing at Abu Ghraib.
    Since April, when newly released memos revealed the Bush administration had sanctioned certain so-called "enhanced interrogation" tactics, some have called for pardons of soldiers like England or at least acknowledgment that they were scapegoats for higher-ups.

    Graveline rejects such calls. He and investigator Michael Clemens have their own book coming out in January, "The Secrets of Abu Ghraib Revealed: American Soldiers on Trial," which they say aims to correct misunderstanding and misinformation.
    The detainees in the photos involving England, for example, were not suspected terrorists, Graveline says, but some of the thousands of "Iraqi-on-Iraqi criminals" at the massive prison. None of the men in the England photos was ever interrogated.
    "The idea that she and her colleagues were working somehow for military intelligence is not supported by fact," he says.
    After serving half of a three-year sentence, England returned to the cocoon of a few friends and family in Fort Ashby, a quiet town of about 1,300 in West Virginia's Eastern Panhandle, 150 miles west of Washington, D.C.
    Biographer Gary Winkler, a local author who spent countless hours with England and her family, says England's family has closed ranks, hoping to protect her and themselves. He said he has mixed feelings about her.
    "Some days I liked her. Some days I hated her," he says. "Some days I thought she should be in prison still, and some days I felt sorry for her."
    England, who's put on a little weight and let her hair grow since mugging for the camera, says she struggles with depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and anxiety. Antidepressants help, and she has learned to deal with personal insults much as she dealt with the horrors of war: She just got used to it.
    England says the most painful jab came in a note from a stranger who suggested her mother "shoot herself for raising somebody like me, and that I should kill my baby and kill myself, or give up my child for adoption, because the way I was raised they didn't want him to turn into some evil monster, too.
    "... and then at the end of it they were like, 'Oh, God bless you,'" she adds with a wry laugh.
    As a teenager, England hunted squirrels and fantasized about becoming a storm chaser. As a woman, she has more worries than dreams.
    She worries about whether she's a good mother to her 4-year-old son Carter.
    "Normal moms have jobs. They get up, they take their kids to school, they go to work, they come home, they cook, they clean, they do all that," she says. "I'm home all day."
    She says she submitted hundreds of resumes for all kinds of jobs, but no one would give her a chance. She stopped trying months ago and depends on welfare and her parents to get by.
    She also fears for her life, though she's 4,000 miles from Iraq: "I'm paranoid about that one guy who still hates me."
    Even if she could go back and change something, England says she wouldn't. If she hadn't met Graner, she says, she wouldn't have her son, the one bright spot from an otherwise dark time.
    "I couldn't have Carter exactly as he is without anybody else except Graner," she says, "so to me that's the whole reason for me meeting him."
    What she wants most now is what most mothers want, to give her child a good life. And as for herself? "I don't think beyond day to day."

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    Event on Abu Ghraib soldier canceled over threats


    In a June 17, 2009 file photo, Lynndie England, former Army reservist and the face of the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, is pictured in Keyser, W.Va.. The Library of Congress Professional Association has canceled a lecture by England scheduled for Friday, Aug. 14, 2009 because of threats and possible protests generated by her visit. England had been scheduled to discuss her biography Friday as part of a veterans forum on Capitol Hill. (AP Photo/Vicki Smith)

    Event on Abu Ghraib soldier canceled over threats - Yahoo! News

    WASHINGTON A lecture by the woman who became the public face of the Abu Ghraib scandal was canceled Friday at the Library of Congress after threats led to concerns about staff safety.
    Former Army reservist Lynndie England had been scheduled to discuss her biography as part of a veterans forum on Capitol Hill. The book by author Gary S. Winkler is called "Tortured: Lynndie England, Abu Ghraib and the Photographs That Shocked the World."
    Members of the Library of Congress Professional Association, the employee group holding the talk, received an e-mail from president Angela Kinney saying the event was canceled due to staff safety concerns. A spokeswoman for the library said Kinney would not comment further.
    The group had received "numerous expressions of protest" about the lecture from its members, the e-mail said.
    David Moore, a Vietnam War veteran and German acquisitions specialist at the library who organized the event, said he received several e-mails threatening violence and shared them with police and the library's inspector general.
    He said he was disappointed by the cancellation but supports the decision because of safety concerns. "We can't have an event here that's going to develop into a brawl like a town hall meeting," he said.
    He added, "Free speech in America is pretty well dead."
    He blamed an essay decrying the event on the Small Wars Journal blog for stirring up much of the opposition. The site focuses on war politics and strategy.
    "It's a disgrace that the dishonorable profit and that we use government property and resources to glorify the gutless. If you attend the lecture on Friday, don't save me a seat," reads the posting by Morris Davis, another Library of Congress employee.
    Davis, who retired from the Air Force after serving as chief prosecutor for military trials at Guantanamo Bay, resigned from his Army legal post in protest because he believed waterboarding was torture.
    Davis said he was grateful the event was canceled and had heard from many library employees who disagreed with inviting England to speak. Those who disagreed planned to skip the event in protest, but no one advocated violence, he said.
    "I believe a person who has paid her debt to society has the right to move on with her life, and that applies to Ms. England," Davis said in an e-mail Friday. "I hope she finds a job and can support her child. But to be invited to speak at the library that belongs to the Congress of the United States is an honor, and I just don't believe in honoring the dishonorable."
    Davis said he was bothered by England because he said she portrays herself as a victim, while other soldiers who lost arms and legs at war don't get book deals and don't complain.
    Other efforts to promote the book on England have been disrupted, its author said in an e-mail, though he didn't elaborate. Winkler defended the biography as balanced, saying it includes voices besides England's to tell the full story of the events and people involved at Abu Ghraib.
    Moore has organized the library group's veterans forums for eight years, and he said the talks generally draw 40 to 80 people and some have been carried on C-SPAN.
    Moore said he won't plan future lectures because of the England problems and that he's canceling three already scheduled, including those with a woman who wrote about sexual harassment in the military and anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son Casey was killed in Iraq.
    As a counterpoint to England's talk, Moore had also planned a later event with the prosecutor who handled England's case and who has a book due out next year.
    "I'm just fed up," Moore said.
    England, now 26, has said she hopes the book will improve her image and help people understand that her role in the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib in 2004 was limited. She is now raising a young son near her family in West Virginia. A spokeswoman said England may comment on the cancellation later Friday.
    She is currently appealing her convictions for conspiracy, mistreating detainees and committing an indecent act after serving half of a three-year sentence. England was one of 11 soldiers found guilty of wrongdoing at Abu Ghraib.

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    Idk how she's appealing it. There were photos you stupid hoe.

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