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    or vomit on them. I think either is considered an acceptable greeting

    but the japanese do bow back, it's about mutual respect, not submission to a monarch. It replaces the handshake.
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    they bow over the handshake!
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    The President isn't supposed to.

    Clinton got reamed by the press for bowing to Emperor Akihito in the early 90's.

    I love being able to Clinton and reamed in the same sentence. He would enjoy that.
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    *twirls finger* who cares, honestly
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Americans do not bow to heads of state.

    'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. . . that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, derived their just power from the consent of the governed.'

    Bowing to a royal goes against the principle of equality.

    He should say, oops- made a mistake, and then move on. And whoever is in charge protocol for the Whitehouse should get on the ball, and make sure they are advising Obama correctly in future.
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    the principle of equality is not something a US politician ever has to worry about. We all know that the rich and powerful exist on another plane and have a different set of justice, so really that reasoning doesn't really hold water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Americans do not bow to heads of state.

    'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. . . that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, derived their just power from the consent of the governed.'

    Bowing to a royal goes against the principle of equality.
    Soooo... the US Constitution prevents Americans from being diplomatic and behaving according to protocol while overseas?

    I suppose kids should stop addressing their teachers as "Mr" or "Ms" and members of the armed forces should stop saluting those of a higher rank. Any gestures of polite respect towards authority go against the "principle of equality".

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    Obama bows to a world leader. Wow. Damn socialist. This is about as news-worthy as Michelle going sleeveless.

    But, at least he wasn't holding hands with the Saudi king and asking him to go steady like another former president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katerpillar View Post
    Soooo... the US Constitution prevents Americans from being diplomatic and behaving according to protocol while overseas?

    I suppose kids should stop addressing their teachers as "Mr" or "Ms" and members of the armed forces should stop saluting those of a higher rank. Any gestures of polite respect towards authority go against the "principle of equality".

    Apparently.

    I find it especially ironic that this is news on the heels of "OMFG, Michelle Obama TOUCHED to royal person of the Queen" controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katerpillar View Post
    Soooo... the US Constitution prevents Americans from being diplomatic and behaving according to protocol while overseas?

    I suppose kids should stop addressing their teachers as "Mr" or "Ms" and members of the armed forces should stop saluting those of a higher rank. Any gestures of polite respect towards authority go against the "principle of equality".

    That's the Declaration of Independence...

    and no, I don't believe that the principle of bowing to a royal, which is an indication of superiority of the monarch is the same as common respect of mr. or ms that people give to each other....and the military is an entirely separate entity with it's own protocol. Straw man arguments. The President is our head of state, and the King is a head of state. Totally equal positions, unless one believes in the divine right of kings.

    So like I said, he should just say ooops, move on, and the person in charge of protocol needs to keep the President advised. I don't think it's makes one a socialist, a terrorist, or is of particular import.

    And yeah, I find things about this ironic as well....like how many people are more concerned with issues like this, instead of the fact that some of the worst offenses of the previous administration are being continued and expanded.....but hey, we live in a trivial country.
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    I think Obama's doing what he thinks is right. Most of that "protocol" is older than Methuselah anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Obama bows to a world leader. Wow. Damn socialist. This is about as news-worthy as Michelle going sleeveless.
    WHAT?!?!?! She went sleeveless??? fucking socialist harlot!!!!




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    He probably just didn't know what the protocol was. Journalists need to focus on the bigger issues at hand, like how we're gonna pay back a trillion dollars to China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    That's the Declaration of Independence...
    Meh, same gist. I live in Australia, I don't know what comes from exactly which US legal document all that well.

    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    and no, I don't believe that the principle of bowing to a royal, which is an indication of superiority of the monarch is the same as common respect of mr. or ms that people give to each other....and the military is an entirely separate entity with it's own protocol. Straw man arguments. The President is our head of state, and the King is a head of state. Totally equal positions, unless one believes in the divine right of kings.
    Yes, but my point is that if it's the expected custom, the polite greeting, whatever, then it should be obeyed for the sake of good manners and diplomacy. Just as I imagine you'd want other heads of state to stick to whatever protocol might exist for greeting the US President. It's not necessarily so much an indication of superiority as just one of respect.

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    All the wingnuts think they have no 'class' and needs to be impeached I know, I know, we should be used to their butthurt shit by now, but still.

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