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    Quote Originally Posted by BITTER View Post
    I wonder if the Russians did hack into our electoral voting system...I think that they did. It seems like the whole world is shifting right. I'm scared. Even more scared than I was in the days after 9-11.
    It is. 9/11 the enemy was Al Qaeda, now your bad guy is your own president... Like watching white house down and rooting for the other team. How can people support him stil. Education to Devos,
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    He seems to be doing everything he can to fuck up. Bad/desperate/controversial choices for cabinet appointees, avoiding all his intelligence briefings, family not moving with him, saying stuff like "President can't have conflicts of interest", not divesting himself of his business interests which is against the constitution - is he TRYING to NOT have to take office? Maybe this is all on purpose?
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    The Clinton campaign is backing Stein's recount effort. This is the tiniest sliver of hope I've had (a recount or audit) that the cheeto may not be unleashed on all of us.

    Clinton Campaign Agrees to Back Jill Stein's Election Recount Effort: Lawyer - NBC News

    Clinton Campaign Agrees to Back Jill Stein's Election Recount Effort: Lawyer

    Hillary Clinton's campaign said Saturday it intends to back the statewide election recount effort in the battleground state of Wisconsin spearheaded by third-party candidate Jill Stein.

    The Clinton team had been quiet about Stein's crusade, but campaign lawyer Marc Elias said that because a recount was set into motion Friday and could begin as soon as next week they want to see a "fair" process for all involved.

    "Because we had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology, we had not planned to exercise this option ourselves," Elias wrote in a Medium post explaining the decision, "but now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides."

    Wisconsin election officials said they received Stein's paperwork and that they were still waiting to obtain a cost estimate from county clerks to calculate a fee that her campaign must pay before the recount can start.

    Her campaign is trying to fundraise online as much as $7 million for the effort and had garnered more than $5.7 million as of Saturday morning.

    The Green Party's presidential nominee also has plans to file a recount effort in Michigan, where NBC News has yet to officially call a winner, and Pennsylvania.

    President-elect Donald Trump still holds narrow leads in all three states against his Democratic rival, and his victories in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin provided him with the Electoral College advantage he needed to win the presidency.

    Elias acknowledged that the "the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states Michigan  well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount," but said they felt it was "important, on principle" to partake in and monitor the process.

    Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski tweeted, "Where is the media outcry?" after news broke that Clinton would back the recount. Trump had no immediate response.

    If Stein follows through with her promise to pay for recounts in Michigan and Pennsylvania, Elias wrote, the campaign will "take the same approach" with additional states and participate in any verification efforts there.

    It's an endeavor that will take long hours, hundreds of election workers and millions of dollars and one that Stein herself admits may not change a thing about Trump's defeat of Clinton.

    "I don't think that's likely and this is not done to benefit one candidate at the expense of the other," Stein said this week on PBS NewsHour.

    It could, however, prolong the final election results for weeks and provide fuel to the tens of thousands of upset Americans who've taken to the streets in protest against Trump's win, declaring the real estate mogul is "not my president."

    Until now, the Clinton campaign declined to comment on the potential re-tallying. After what aides called a crushing and unanimously stunning loss, most went silent as they came to grips with the outcome.

    Over the last few weeks, lawyers and data scientists urged the campaign to consider a recount, according to Elias' post. He also said a deciding factor for the campaign was Russia's reported interference in the U.S. election process.

    Besides "quietly" taking steps to "rule in or out any possibility of outside interference," the campaign also dispatched resources to critical battleground states.

    "We have monitored and staffed the post-election canvasses where voting machine tapes are compared to poll-books, provisional ballots are resolved, and all of the math is double checked from election night," he wrote.

    Elias also acknowledged the anguish that many of Clinton's supporters and staffers felt after the shocking upset.

    "We certainly understand the heartbreak felt by so many who worked so hard to elect Hillary Clinton, and it is a fundamental principle of our democracy to ensure that every vote counts.
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    And don't get too exited. If there was tampering with the machines, there would need to be an audit to uncover it. A recount won't take such a possibility into account. It will just count them again.
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    True. And I can't speak intelligently about the recounts, and whether or not found discrepancies would lead to anything meaningful, but at the very least, it would make me feel a bit better to think the voting results were manipulated than to think a whole host of my fellow Americans are really this short sighted and mean spirited towards their fellow man.
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    At least we know that 2 million plus more voters didn't buy into the racist, misogynist nonsense. Which is good, but sucks that we can't do a whole lot about it now.
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    This won't do a thing, unfortunately. Wish we could reverse it all and just have Hillary move into the WH with all her baggage. No way we could get worse than Trump. The people he is surrounding himself with have either zero experience or are neocons. We're screwed.
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    Sharing this just in case any of you want to volunteer, or know someone who does. URGENT: 3 Voters Needed TODAY From Each PA Election District. #RECOUNT2016 DEADLINE TODAY – Bros4Hillary


    In a late breaking development, Pennsylvania election law contains a provision that requires three voters in each Pennsylvania election district to submit an affidavit with their County Board of Elections in order to request a recount. TODAY, MONDAY NOVEMBER 28, 2016 IS THE DEADLINE FOR FILING!

    The funds for this recount have already been raised. You will be given the proper paper work and instructions. However, the #RECOUNT2016 campaign needs THREE voters in each Pennsylvania election district to volunteer to physically submit affidavits OR THERE WILL BE NO RECOUNT.

    Please go to if you are a registered voter in the following counties: Adams, Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Bedford, Berks, Blair, Bradford, Bucks, Butler, Cambria, Cameron, Carbon, Centre, Chester, Clarion, Clearfield, Clinton, Columbia, Crawford, Cumberland, Dauphin, Delaware, Elk, Erie, Fayette, Forest, Franklin, Fulton, Greene, Huntington, Indiana, Jefferson, Juniata, Lackawanna, Lancaster, Lawrence, Lebanon, Lehigh, Luzerne, Lycoming, McKean, Mercer, Mifflin, Monroe, Montgomery, Montour, Northhampton, Northumberland, Perry, Philadelphia, Pike, Potter, Schuylkill, Snyder, Somerset, Sullivan, Susequehanna, Tioga, Union, Venango, Warren, Washington, Wayne, Westmoreland, Wyoming, or York.
    Special attention is needed in rural areas. Please circulate.
    Bros4Hillary Leadership Team
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