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    Quote Originally Posted by ana-mish-ana View Post
    ^That's hysterical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bychance View Post
    The Obama campaign is MAD QUICK!

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    From when was this clip? He was certifiable even then!
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    Did you guys see Palin's rally this morning? She is still telling the crowd with a straight face the same lies again!! How can she even say what Obama [supposedly] wants to do with your taxes and what not when the debate last night had all been corrected and explained? Loser.

    And oh my fucking God her voice is annoying.

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    WHERE was Mccain's American flag pin???

    To be honest, I don't give a shit if he was wearing a flag pin or not. This whole bizarre idea that you need to wave your flag 24/7 or somehow you aren't a patriot or don't believe in America is bullshit. I'm more concerned that he's a lying fuckhead who can't stop lying and will continue to do so in a futile attempt to be president.

    Did you guys see Palin's rally this morning? She is still telling the crowd with a straight face the same lies again!! How can she even say what Obama [supposedly] wants to do with your taxes and what not when the debate last night had all been corrected and explained? Loser.

    She preaching to the choir.
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    Palin is like one of those talking Barbies, the one where you pull the string in the back of the neck. The doll repeats the same thing over and over and over because that's all the doll is programmed to do.

    I don't expect anything to change right up until 11/4.

    Sarah is like Tom Cruise - needs a script or loses train of thought entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    Obama was flat. The thing that's been annoying me all along about him is how he doesn't hit back at some of McCain's more ridiculous, vicious attacks. There's taking the higher road and then there's lack of passion. I think he and his campaign are afraid of coming off too aggressive, but in the process are coming off as too soft. There are things that should rightly enrage anyone with a strong sense of right and wrong, and I agree with picking his moments wisely, but dammit I wanna see his fire and get a glimpse at his authoritative side.
    I'm in agreement with kingcap, Obama doesn't get angry in the debates because he doesn't want to be seen as a typical "angry black man."

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    In that regard, I don't think Obama can win. He's either calm and regarded as soft or fired up and regarded as hostile according the the Republican media.

    I think he's just worn out from having to deal with McCain and Palin's love affair with ignorant America.

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    Personally, I think Obama is playing it perfectly. Let McCain show the emotion, the upset, the anger, the inability to hold it back. It makes Obama look calm, cool, collected and prepared - it makes McCain look nervous, jumpy and defensive.

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    ^^Bingo for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HWBL View Post
    From when was this clip? He was certifiable even then!
    I know. Everytime he laughs at the end, it kills me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    Obama was flat. The thing that's been annoying me all along about him is how he doesn't hit back at some of McCain's more ridiculous, vicious attacks. There's taking the higher road and then there's lack of passion. I think he and his campaign are afraid of coming off too aggressive, but in the process are coming off as too soft. There are things that should rightly enrage anyone with a strong sense of right and wrong, and I agree with picking his moments wisely, but dammit I wanna see his fire and get a glimpse at his authoritative side.

    I kept imagining him as POTUS sitting across from world leaders, not all of whom are friendly, and not being as forceful as he needs to be. There's a time for diplomacy but sometimes the POTUS has to kick ass and take names.

    McCain has the opposite problem, he always looked like he's 1 step away from flying into a rage. We cannot have that in a POTUS at important diplomatic talks. I agree with January that he came off as a petulant child with all the grimacing, sighing and sarcasm. He's an idiot to do that because independent voters do not like that, it's immature and off-putting.
    Obama can be forceful when he needs to be. He showed that during his acceptance speech at the DNC. And remember, Obama honed his political teeth on the South Side of Chicago. You can't survive that without knowing how to deal with unfriendly people.

    Although there was a flash of anger from Obama when they were talking about the Ayers thing. When he told McCain that 'it says more about your campaign than it does mine,' he was getting pissed but he reined it back in.

    But Obama's being smart with McCain, because he knows that if he loses his temper he gets portrayed as the angry black man. But not only that, he gets painted as the one that's erratic and unstable. True, I would've LOVED it if Obama had tore into McCain at the debates, but from a strategic standpoint it would've been a mistake. And with the advantage that Obama's holding in the polls, I think one of the reasons he was flat was because he didn't want to take the risk of putting his foot in his mouth. He wisely let McCain do that.

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    I have to agree King, when people say Obama is too soft, I'm thinking, let's see you live past the age of 20 in Chicago's south side as a black man.
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    I agree with you King, he understands he has to be ten times better than everyone else because he is being judged in everything he does. It is a shame we have taken so many steps forward to have to go so far back simply because an old, ill, bad tempered demagouge wants to be president and he happens to be white. Nothing else explains why anyone would vote for McCain IMO and that what really sickens me.
    as privileged as a whore...victims in demand for public show, swept out through the cracks beneath the door, holier than thou, how?

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    Well, as Obama himself said in the Rolling Stone posted here a couple of days ago:

    In what way will people underestimate you as president?
    [Long pause] Because I tend to be a pretty courteous person and I don't lose my temper, I think people underestimate my willingness to mix it up. I don't know if they'll continue to underestimate that after this campaign, but I think you'll still get columns saying, "He's too cool, he's too soft." [Laughs] That's OK, actually.
    You like being underestimated in that way.
    Yeah. No point in having them see you coming.
    I think we are just seeing Obama's inherent temperament. My husband is similarly unflappable, and he works in a leadership position. I think it is a good trait when you have to manage people and lead groups toward a common goal. In DH's case, there is a lot going on under the calm exterior, including amazing strategical thinking.

    I do not want a president who flies off the handle. I don't need my president to go on the attack, necessarily. I was worried that Obama got a free pass during the primaries and would get his ass kicked when the Republican hate machine went into gear, and I have actually been very impressed with his ability to fight back at impassioned lies with calm truth, and his campaign's continued focus on the things that matter. They have done this in a way that doesn't seem holier-than-thou, too. Instead, it seems purposeful and like it's always connected to the reality of what America needs right now and what people are facing.
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    You know, i have to be fair about this.. the economic explosion helped Obama a lot. I mean A LOT. If that hadn't happened, i doubt he would be as far ahead as he is now.
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