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    My above post wasn't sarcasm, it was reality. The reality is that there are many methods available to any-one dipshit walking in off the street (free at any planned parenthood) to avoid getting pregnant in the first place. To use abortion as your contraceptive is ignorant and irresponsible.

    'The pill didn't work' 'He is really potent' and 'The rubber broke'

    Heard them all, 99.9% of those are lies too.

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    The people that do are a small minority. Do you damn the whole system for the actions of a few?

    A number of people defraud welfare, why don't we just cut everyone off as a result?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch
    But Grimm, if you just close your legs it won't happen to you. Of course, now that I think about that reasoning (hehehehe) it puts it all on the female half of the couple. What about men/boys keeping it in thier pants? We ladies can't get knocked up without the help of the men.
    If it were always the men/boys choice, there wouldn't be but a few kids at all. Something about the whole child support thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    The people that do are a small minority. Do you damn the whole system for the actions of a few?

    A number of people defraud welfare, why don't we just cut everyone off as a result?
    Actions of a few when contraceptives are anywhere from 98.5 - 99.9% effective? Come on! Pshaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch
    Most abortion supporters I know--in fact all when I think about it--do not support late term abortions unless there exist extreme circumstances.
    Include me in that group, please. If the "being" is able to live and breathe outside of the mother's womb but is not allowed to, then the murdering bastards deserve whatever ill will befalls them in this life or the next.

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    Now that I've gotten the image of a piston-driven turkey baster fuck machine out of my head (there goes another keyboard) I will say that there needs to be baby batter in that baster and that can only come from one place...a man, preferably Grimm.

    As far as this:

    Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    The mean-faced feminazi's who are the backbone of the pro-choice movement from hell - will never stop until they destroy all roots of the traditional family. I hate them so very deeply.
    Why would anyone takes the words of overweight, pudding faced losers who are obviously bitter about never getting laid in high school and thus chosen to take that out on all of woman kind as thier own? I'm not particularly mean-faced (unless the kiddies really piss me off) nor an I a (tries not to laugh at lame term) feminazi. I'm just a woman who thinks I should do what I want with my body and thinks that there are all sorts of different ways of living. And let me tell you, if I was raped or the victim of incest (which is, of course, essentially rape) and ended up pregnant, you had better gather a rather large army to help you in your sure to be unsuccessful efforts to stop me from having an abortion. I mean, are you telling me that if a daughter of yours was gangraped or diddled by Uncle Bob and ended up pregnant you'd think it was right to force her to carry that baby to term? That's inhuman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    Include me in that group, please. If the "being" is able to live and breathe outside of the mother's womb but is not allowed to, then the murdering bastards deserve whatever ill will befalls them in this life or the next.

    Whew.... there's half the battle already.

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    I have to admit, I can't possibly conceive how partial-birth abortions could even be considered legal.

    My understanding is that if they removed the child's head from the vagina prior to sucking it's brains out from through the whole in the back of it's head - then it would be considered 'born' ... So the head is left in the birth canal while the dr. goes at it with a scalpel and some sort of sucking device.

    Now, I tried to go out and do some actual research on this procedure, but I kept getting pro-life websites that only provided graphic pictures of the process and no actual objective medical information. So I still don't have any actual data and now my stomach hurts.

    Here's my questions - if anyone can help answer:

    1. At what gestational age are abortions considered partial-birth (per the law)?
    2. Is the fetus truly viable at that age?

    I think we can all agree that this is really a question of when does a fetus become a human and thus the human rights kick in. I don't know the answer, but I can't even begin to address the issue without knowing the potential age of the fetus at the time of the procedure. Are we really talking about 8 month abortions, or are we talking about abortions after the first tri-mester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by equallydivided
    If it were always the men/boys choice, there wouldn't be but a few kids at all. Something about the whole child support thing.



    Actions of a few when contraceptives are anywhere from 98.5 - 99.9% effective? Come on! Pshaw

    The point remains: do you gut the entire system for the actions of a few?

    and anyhow, how many people get these abortions, and for what reasons? I can't imagine any doctor going along with some woman who comes in, smacking gun like Titney, who wants her baby hole vacuumed on a whim.
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    Actually, the real banning of abortion didn't come about in the States until the 1800's, with it taking until 1965 for most states to ban abortion except in cases of rape, incest, risk to life of mother or in the case of a deformity. The last reason I find really interesting since it implies that if the child were to be deformed, it wasn't worthy of life. Weird.

    Read more here:
    http://womenshistory.about.com/od/ab...a/abortion.htm


    Also, why are so many so-called pro-lifers anti birth control as well? Don't they realize that unwanted babies wouldn't be quite so numerous if everyone had access to safe, affordable birth control? But then that begs the question why so many of those in that camp seem to be generally anti-sex as well. And how you can be that is beyond me.
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    Question: Am I allowed to put five cocks in my body all at once?? Am I allowed to chop off one of my fingers if I so choose? Can I eat my boogers?? What, pray tell, you fucking pro-lifers, am I allowed to do with MY body???

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    You're allowed to pray with it, and spend your days toiling in a kitchen for your MAN
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    Where would you put all those throbbing muscles of love? Oh, wait. I forgot about ear canals. Anyway, you can pick your nose but I do draw the line at eating what you excavate (unless you're drunk). And yes, I think you can chop your own finger off...didn't William Burroughs chop the end of his off just to know what it felt like? And yes, in my estimation, you are definitely allowed to do whatever the hell you like with your body. It's the only thing you truly own, although some types would like to change that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    Question: Am I allowed to put five cocks in my body all at once?? Am I allowed to chop off one of my fingers if I so choose? Can I eat my boogers?? What, pray tell, you fucking pro-lifers, am I allowed to do with MY body???
    When your pregnant, do you agree that there are two bodies in one? Can it really be just YOUR body? It isn't, you chose to have sex and the result is, you REPRODUCED. Whether it's an OOPS moment or not, it is not JUST YOUR body anymore. You are allowed to prevent pregnancy. So do it.

    THERE is your choice.

    Just because you call a baby a 'fetus' doesn't mean it isn't alive and if you choose to kill your baby, it's still a moral issue. Legal definition was made by politicians. Really sad to see that that's where people get their sense of right and wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedHo
    Question: Am I allowed to put five cocks in my body all at once?? Am I allowed to chop off one of my fingers if I so choose? Can I eat my boogers?? What, pray tell, you fucking pro-lifers, am I allowed to do with MY body???
    All of the above except killing an unborn baby you narcissistic pro-choice brigade straight from the nether reaches. Why can't you get over your own ego and realize that life is a gift and one that should not be returned to sender.

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    When your pregnant, do you agree that there are two bodies in one?
    No, someone woman tried to carpool using that excuse and wound up with a big fat ticket.

    Can it really be just YOUR body?
    Well it certainly isnt YOURS, or anyone elses.

    It isn't, you chose to have sex and the result is, you REPRODUCED.
    Correct, and then you have the intelligence to CHOOSE wether to actually let the reproductive cycle continue. That's the beauty of sentience.

    Whether it's an OOPS moment or not, it is not JUST YOUR body anymore. You are allowed to prevent pregnancy. So do it.
    Yes, actually it is. You have the choice of what happens to said body. When your little mass of dividing cells or a fetus can pop out and complain loudly about the food you make it eat, and then stomp off, dragging your body in tow.. that's the day your body is no longer yours.

    THERE is your choice.
    Shit happens, sometimes the best safeguards don't work. Besides the joy of being sentient (again) is that THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS OPEN TO YOU THAN THAT, despite what some groups would impose on your own body.

    Just because you call a baby a 'fetus' doesn't mean it isn't alive and if you choose to kill your baby, it's still a moral issue.
    Your skin cells are alive too, until you shed them. Is that a moral issue?

    Legal definition was made by politicians. Really sad to see that that's where people get their sense of right and wrong.
    It's really sad to see people willing to forcibly impose THEIR version of PERSONAL morality on other people who have their own, and don't want yours. Don't be such a fascist.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyPool
    All of the above except killing an unborn baby you narcissistic pro-choice brigade straight from the nether reaches. Why can't you get over your own ego and realize that life is a gift and one that should not be returned to sender.
    Why can't you get over your own, and realize NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH YOU, and they have a right to be free of YOUR interference in THEIR PRIVATE LIVES?
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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