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Thread: Senate Intel committee releases final Iraq report: BUSH LIED HIS ASS OFF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    im not trying to pwn anybody, I just want people to realize the lies that have been spun for all this
    After that facts aren't always facts or whatever, that line made me laugh.

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    Fact is, Iraq was voted on almost unanimously by all of the Senate- including a majority of democrats.
    Not exactly. The vote was 77-23 Senate and 296-133 House.

    CNN.com - Senate approves Iraq war resolution - Oct. 11, 2002

    The members of Congress didn't have all the information that the WH had, and as this report shows the WH exaggerated the claims.

    Sure, those who voted for giving Bush the power share some of the blame - but not as much as the Bush administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visitor42 View Post
    Not exactly. The vote was 77-23 Senate and 296-133 House.

    CNN.com - Senate approves Iraq war resolution - Oct. 11, 2002

    The members of Congress didn't have all the information that the WH had, and as this report shows the WH exaggerated the claims.

    Sure, those who voted for giving Bush the power share some of the blame - but not as much as the Bush administration.

    It's not just that one vote that matters though.

    They bear more responsibility for the votes that have been taken since to keep it going.

    Even if they were fooled in the beginning, the have been voting over and over on war issues and funding for the past 5 1/2 years. If the public has become aware that they were lied to, what's Congress' excuse to keep this evil lie going?

    That's more of a crime, knowing the truth, and still behaving like you did while you were being lied to
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    I just read this, I thought it's notes about how hardly anyone in Congress read the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq before they voted quite telling.

    Iraq intelligence findings provide crucial lessons

    It has long been apparent that the United States rushed to war in Iraq based on false premises. Saddam Hussein didn't have weapons of mass destruction, didn't have ties to the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks and wasn't an imminent danger.

    But one great unanswered question has festered in Washington: Did President Bush and his top officials knowingly lie when they repeatedly asserted that Saddam was reconstituting a nuclear program and had biological and chemical weapons? Or did they simply get it wrong, cherry-picking flawed intelligence to make their case for action?

    Anyone hoping for the final answer from the long-delayed Senate Intelligence Committee report released Thursday will be disappointed — unless, of course, they cherry-pick it to support their preconceived opinions

    For the most part, the 171-page report contradicts the simplistic "Bush lied, people died" formulation found on bumper stickers. It concludes that the administration's prewar statements on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were mostly backed up by available (but flawed) U.S. intelligence, although the statements tended to gloss over internal debate among intelligence agencies about those findings

    The report does find, however, that assertions by Bush and Vice President Cheney that Saddam was prepared to arm terrorist groups to attack the United States contradicted available intelligence. In fact, that intelligence suggested Saddam was unlikely to do so because he feared an attack would strengthen the U.S. case for war.

    This mixed verdict won't satisfy partisans on either side. But it doesn't mean the report — endorsed by the panel's eight Democrats and two of its seven Republicans — is an exercise in futility, as its GOP critics claimed. It is, in fact, a cautionary tale that provides important lessons, particularly as the nation decides what to do about Iran and its murky nuclear program.

    For Congress, the lesson is that lawmakers need to double-check intelligence themselves, not simply rely on summaries or administration assurances. Pathetically few members of Congress read the complete 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, which detailed misgivings of some intelligence agencies, before they cast fateful votes that authorized the Iraq war.

    For this and future administrations, the lesson is that White House officials need to weigh and study all available intelligence, not seize on only what supports their preconceived notions. They mustn't present ambiguity as certainty. They mustn't launch pre-emptive attacks without bulletproof evidence. And never again should they treat war as a marketing campaign, like selling a new brand of toothpaste.

    Iraq intelligence findings provide crucial lessons - Opinion - USATODAY.com
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