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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    Sorry, but I don't think I'm making your point if you are trying to say that the media are slanted against Palin in some way. There was no national media coverage of Palin until six weeks ago. She is undoing her own self and doesn't really need anyone to do that for her.

    And no one was covering Alaska stuff nationally until her VP nomination. Alaska was under the radar, and Palin was under the radar.

    For example, media attention on the awful rape statistics in Alaska stems from Palin's apparent policy of making rape victims pay for their own rape kits. If Palin had been a leader who stood up and said not only that of course a woman who has been raped shouldn't be charged a thousand bucks to have a state-sponsored exam, but also that things needed to change in Alaska regarding rape and that rapists would not be tolerated and would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, then on the national stage I expect people would've thought that reflected well on her and, by extension, on Alaska.

    This all starts with her own (extraordinary) weaknesses as a candidate.

    But maybe I am misunderstanding the point you're trying to make? Are you really trying to say that Alaskans don't have a correct opinion of their own governor because the media have turned them against her, and that this drop in her approval has nothing to do with her own past actions in Alaska coming to light, as well as the lousy run she's having for national office promising that Alaska will be known as "the place that is foisting Sarah Palin on us"?

    I never said they were slanted. Please don't put words in mouth or project your thoughts onto me. Thanks.

    What I said was the media coverage of Palin has changed over the past 6 weeks, Palin has not changed.

    Here are my exact words:

    "She was named vp nominee about 6 weeks ago......how has her governing of alaska changed in 6 weeks? It hasn't.......but media coverage of her has.......there's the change......"

    My point was her rating in her state has gone down since the national media started covering her......she had a high in state rating before. She has not changed, but her coverage has.......

    Was the entire state of Alaska unaware of any of these things before?
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    If your point had been clearer, I wouldn't have needed to try so hard to understand.

    Yes, let's blame Alaskans for not knowing stuff that wasn't being widely reported. It's obviously their fault. Just like if my national government does bad things (but I'm sure that would never happen), and I don't personally stay on top of all of those shenanigans, then I am to blame, and I lose my right to ever find out about those things in the future and lower my opinion of the people who did them.

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    Palin’s Popularity Among Alaskans Continues to Fall
    Jim Carlton reports on the presidential race.

    Sarah Palin remains a big draw on the campaign trail, but the Alaska governor’s popularity back home continues to drop since she joined the Republican ticket as John McCain’s running mate.

    Palin’s positive rating dropped to 65% as of Monday from 68% on Sept. 22, according to a survey of likely Alaska voters by Anchorage pollster Ivan Moore. On Sept. 2, her positive rating was a stratospheric 82%, according to Moore’s poll then. The governor’s negative rating in Alaska, meanwhile, has shot up to 30% — the highest since she took office in 2005, according to Moore. On Sept. 2, it was just 13%.

    Moore said a big reason Palin’s popularity has taken a hit is that she has taken on partisan attacks against Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and his running mate, Joe Biden. Many Democratic Alaskans who once supported her have been turned off by the attacks, he said.

    Other factors that could be at play: The governor’s role in Troopergate, the scandal involving her alleged attempts to get a former brother-in-law fired from his job as a state trooper. Many Alaskans have also groused about the presence of many McCain operatives in Alaska since she was named to the ticket.

    It’s not all bad news for Palin: The Moore poll still shows the McCain-Palin ticket trouncing Obama-Biden, by 55% to 38%. Before she was named to the ticket, Alaska was in contention. “Alaska is still a strong McCain,” Moore said.

    Permalink | Trackback URL: Washington Wire - WSJ.com : Palin's Popularity Among Alaskans Continues to Fall

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    "Have you noticed how [Palin's] rallies have begun to take on the characteristics of the last days of the Weimar Republic? In Florida, she asked 'Who is Barack Obama?' Hey, lady, we just met YOU five f-ing weeks ago."
    Jon nailed it, nailed it like Jell-o!

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    ^^ That doesn't really work with what I am saying...which is about her rating dropping inside her own state

    it's outside the state that these things were new stories, not inside.....these stories got plenty of press inside alaska before the past six weeks she since was vp nom....
    Not so. Many Alaskans are pissed off that their Governor has basically abandoned them and the McCain campaign and non-Alaskan Republicans have taken over their state. This is in addition to everything that has been released in the Troopergate investigation so far, which includes Sarah Palin's refusal to cooperate after she became the VP nominee--a complete reversal from her public statements when the investigation began that she would cooperate. (On July 24, Palin said "I have absolutely nothing to hide … I'm happy to answer any questions between now and when they [the legislature] do conduct an investigation also. … I'm happy to comply, to cooperate. … No problem with an independent investigation.")

    So, yes, Alaskans are fucking pissed at the Palins for what they've done.

    I'd recommend this as reading on pissed off Alaskans:
    GET THE F*%# OUT OF MY STATE! SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    not to be a defense of Palin...but just something I find interesting......

    the fact that her approval rating inside Alaska has gone down says more about the media coverage than Palin.

    She was named vp nominee about 6 weeks ago......how has her governing of alaska changed in 6 weeks? It hasn't.......but media coverage of her has.......there's the change......



    my two cents.....
    From what I'm reading, McCain campaign folks have stepped in to run the State. Palin's Alaska numbers are tanking because that seems a tad presumptuous and outsiders from New York and not generally welcomed in Western states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    (On July 24, Palin said "I have absolutely nothing to hide … I'm happy to answer any questions between now and when they [the legislature] do conduct an investigation also. … I'm happy to comply, to cooperate. … No problem with an independent investigation.")
    Oh so she has changed?
    Also, if she wanted to be presented well by the media, she wouldn't make an ass out of herself during interviews (but what else can she offer, really?), not hide from reporters, her own ethics investigation (someone, again, please remind me why she's doing that at the same time she calls O a "mystery" man?) and again, she would stand up at her own rallies with a smile plastered on her face while the crowd jeers racist comments as well as calling for people to KILL her opponent.

    But yeah. She's the perfect person for this job.
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    Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl
    not to be a defense of Palin...but just something I find interesting......

    the fact that her approval rating inside Alaska has gone down says more about the media coverage than Palin.

    She was named vp nominee about 6 weeks ago......how has her governing of alaska changed in 6 weeks? It hasn't.......but media coverage of her has.......there's the change......
    It may or may not be the increased media coverage. Perhaps Alaskans are just simply embarrassed to have voted in such an obvious retard lunatic to run their state. Makes them all seem like a bunch of iuneducated gun nut retards staying drunk on the reservation as they schtup their sisters. Could be the fact that Palin is obviously neglecting the business of running Alaska while she completes in the beauty contest that gives her the right to hold McCain's colostomy bag and be a meaningless figurehead going to state funerals. I'm sure having the national Republican party show up in highly independent Alaska to run the state government while she's fiddling around in the McCain backup band burns up more than a few natives.

    Chicken or egg semantics, it doesn't matter why she's tanking in her home state, it just matters that she is.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing her for not doing her paid job while neither are McCain or Obama either. It's just being a Senator is different than being a governor, Senators just make laws and snooze in their seats and collect PAC monies, and filibuster, and go to parties, and collect more special interest groups money and so on..... they are actually doing us a favor by not doing what we taxpayers pay them to do.

    Fun facts about Wasilla, Meth Capital of Alaska, it's six thousand residents received 6 million bucks in federal earmarks, home of April Flowers porn star, the town's commercial core has been described as essentially a haphazard succession of big-box stores, fast-food restaurants and shopping plazas, lots of stuff for Palin to be proud of..

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    Who cares what her approval rating is in Alaska. She's not running for Governor of Alaska. She's running for VP of the US. Alaska's opinion of her is just that - Alaska's opinion.

    She's had 6 weeks to present an image of herself. She has done limited interviews for a reason. She's woefully inadequate for national politics.

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    ^^ I like seeing her numbers in Alaska decline. It is my hope she will be impeached for this ethics violation or at least not be re-elected.

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    Guys, stop lying!

    You're all just bitter jellus fatties!

    Sarah is kewl! And women who don't support women like her go to hell, remember?

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    ^^ Will do. I'll even have the word Sluce on the back of the chair, encrusted in rhinestones. No eff, that, diamonds

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    ^^ I like seeing her numbers in Alaska decline. It is my hope she will be impeached for this ethics violation or at least not be re-elected.
    Oh, I totally get your point. I was actually responding to TKDgirl's excuse-making for Ms. Palin.

    Most people don't know much about their local/state government, only when they read something in the newspaper (if they read newspapers, which is obviously on the decline) or if their local news channel covers it. Even then, it's hardly in-depth coverage.

    Ms. Palin's approval rating is in decline because she is having a microscope placed on her and the results are ugly.

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    TROOPERGATE findings to be released tomorrow, right??

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