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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Others disagree, your opinion is not fact.
    Grim, are you ok? Not ill or anything? Have you had your coffee? I admit to being generally new around here, but I have never seen you disgree with someone so calmly.

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    The abortion topic has been done to death (hah!), conservatives scream about right to life, but then don't give a crap about kids after they're born, don't want to support social programs that would help care for them, don't put their money where their mouths are and adopt any, and send them off to die in wars or on death row.

    The hypocrisy is staggering and well known, so there's not much more to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by chattykathy View Post
    And abortion is murder. It stops a beating heart on purpose, it's murder.
    No it's not. We don't count pregnancies in the US Census. A fetus in the womb isn't a person. There's a reason why we issue birth certificates in this country.

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    Leave Obama Alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    The abortion topic has been done to death (hah!), conservatives scream about right to life, but then don't give a crap about kids after they're born, don't want to support social programs that would help care for them, don't put their money where their mouths are and adopt any, and send them off to die in wars or on death row.

    The hypocrisy is staggering and well known, so there's not much more to say
    all opinions are different. not everyone is going to view the topic of abortion the same way. not every conservative believes in abortion and not all liberals believe in pro-choice. also if the topic of abortion has been done to death then there wouldn't be a thread about it now would there.

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    Once again, the generalizations..not all of us conservatives stop caring about them after they are born, or don't support them...they matter at any stage of life, as does the mother. And the comment about it being "above his paygrade" was a stupid thing for him to say. He was interviewing for the highest job in the land, he could have had a better answer than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viggofan View Post
    all opinions are different. not everyone is going to view the topic of abortion the same way. not every conservative believes in abortion and not all liberals believe in pro-choice. also if the topic of abortion has been done to death then there wouldn't be a thread about it now would there.
    Palin's brainless blatherings have also been done to death, but she keeps spewing mental diarrhea anyway.

    end result, if you don't believe in abortion then don't get one. You're not allowed to dictate what other people can and cannot do.

    Isn't that some sort of conservative screed? Freedom and personal choice?

    I decided to take your advice and attempt to argue the topics and let the chips fall where they may.
    Good, just make sure you can back up what you say like everybody else.
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    Kathy - that means that he is not qualified to determine when life begins, he is not a doctor or a deity and he would not presume to tell me what I can do with my body and my future. The Supreme Court got it right 35 years ago - life begins a viability.

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    Well, if not all conservatives stop caring after birth, then why do you vote for politicians who vote against head start, day care vouchers, amongst other programs that will help them out. Life starts at birth, not conception. I don't understand why so many people don't get this...

    If those abstinence only classes taught more than NO SEX, and insurance companies covered birth control, and not viagra..then maybe fewer abortions would be needed!!
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    abstinence only doesn't work as a teaching method anyway. It always results in higher pregnancy rates. That's the dumb thing.

    Teach proper sex ed, pregnancy rates fall, less abortions happen... but the fundies always go nuts about teaching responsible sex, it's so counterintuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Palin's brainless blatherings have also been done to death, but she keeps spewing mental diarrhea anyway.

    end result, if you don't believe in abortion then don't get one. You're not allowed to dictate what other people can and cannot do.

    Isn't that some sort of conservative screed? Freedom and personal choice?



    Good, just make sure you can back up what you say like everybody else.
    what is a screed of g-d of proper spelling

    anyway no as far as I can see that is not the creed of the conservative to the best of my understanding. They lean to the side of anti abortion not personal choice. That would be more on side of a liberal. But then there are mixed folks who believe some converative beliefs and some liberal beliefs.... on of them for me is a women's choice to have an abortion or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viggofan View Post
    what is a screed of g-d of proper spelling
    screed

    Noun

    a long tiresome speech or piece of writing [probably from Old English scrēade shred]

    Collins Essential English Dictionary 2nd Edition 2006 HarperCollins Publishers 2004, 2006

    Screed

    a lengthy piece of writing; a discourse or harangue.

    Examples: screed of cribbing, 1884; of doctrine, 1816; of malevolence, 1902; of notes; of poetry, 1812.


    anyway no as far as I can see that is not the creed of the conservative to the best of my understanding.
    Then why are they always bitching about personal freedoms, and how dare the government interfere with this, that and the other thing.

    They lean to the side of anti abortion not personal choice.
    Yes, hence why it's hypocritical. They harp on about personal freedom from government.. until they want the government to dictate what THEY feel should be mandated by law.

    That would be more on side of a liberal.
    Liberals want freedom from people dictating what they can do with their own lives and bodies.

    But then there are mixed folks who believe some converative beliefs and some liberal beliefs.... on of them for me is a women's choice to have an abortion or not.
    It's a personal choice, up to nobody but the people involved.
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    A woman can do whatever she wants, but I don't have to agree with it. The health departments hand out free condoms, there is no reason for anyone to have no put one on before hand if they didn't want a pregnancy. I really dislike abortion being used as a means of birth control because someone was too lazy to spend 10 seconds unrolling the condom, or to swallow a pill in the morning. It's not that hard. And yes, proper sex ed should cover exactly that, but they should also encourage them to be responsible and picky about who they sleep with, because all birth controls have a 99% rate, and that 1% when it's not effective catchs up with them eventually. Better it happen in a long term committed relationship than a one night stand.
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