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    Uh Oh - 4chan are going to target Fox news and especially O'Reilly.

    This invitation on /b/ on 4chan warns of a DDOS attack on foxnews.com tomorrow afternoon. He was kind of asking for it when he described 4chan as a "a far-left website" "providing child pornography to internet pedophiles."
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    4chan?...leftist? Sorry, but... no. They're not on either side. They're all about equal opportunity with the whole 'ripping people apart' thing.

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    Bill O'reilly should read up on what they did to Hal Turner.

    Say what you want about the legality of what most of 4chan does, they are not stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkdgirl View Post
    The FBI are investigating the son of a Democrat Tennessee State Rep for the hacking. Did I mention this State Rep, Mike Kernell, is an active member of Obama's Tennessee campaign? Silly me!

    Kernell mum on allegations son hacked into Palin’s e-mail : Election News : Knoxville News Sentinel

    The Knoxville news said this regarding the evidence:
    The evidence is tenuous. In fact, one of the first blogs to allege that the son of a Democratic politician was responsible relied on e-mail tips and described its evidence as “pretty thin.”
    Doesn't sound so slamdunk to me.

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    possible slander there
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    How about maybe..it was some random person..why does there need to be a damn conspiracy? She's a fucking idiot, it was wrong..the end.

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    Tenn state representative Mike Kernells 20 year old son may very well be the hacker
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    .. except the 'evidence' is 'tenuous'.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake View Post
    Tenn state representative Mike Kernells 20 year old son may very well be the hacker

    Right now, all they're going on is that he has a username similar to the username used by the "hacker" in the same way that Sweetness and Sweetie have similar usernames but are two different people ....unless there's some other sort of proof?
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    I haven't seen anything slamdunk yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    I haven't seen anything slamdunk yet.
    All we know at this point is that some how, some way, it's Obama's fault. Just like global warming, the credit crisis, etc. Hell, Obama probably knocked up Palin's daughter for all we know.

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    Default Wired: Little or No Jail Time Likely for Palin Hacker

    Little or No Jail Time Likely for Palin Hacker

    By Kim Zetter September 19, 2008 | 5:29:59 PM

    It might seem obvious to most people that the hacker who gained unauthorized access to the private e-mail account of Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin violated the Stored Communications Act.

    Under that law, a violation is committed by anyone who “(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided;” or “(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility; and thereby obtains...[an] electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system.”
    But Kurt Opsahl, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, says not so fast.

    Although the law seems clear on such a matter, the Department of Justice has taken a position on the law that could thwart its own prosecution of the hack under the SCA.

    (Before anyone jumps to conclusions, the hacker could still be prosecuted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Keep reading to see discussion below about the CFAA.)

    Electronic storage is defined in the Stored Communications Act as "any temporary, intermediate storage of a wire or electronic communication incidental to the electronic transmission thereof." E-mail that has arrived in a recipient's inbox on his ISP's server and that has not yet been opened would fall into this category.

    The law also refers to electronic storage as "any storage of such communication by an electronic communication service for purposes of backup protection of such communication." E-mail that has been read, but not deleted would fit this description.

    In a U.S. 9th Circuit precedent, the court regarded both read and unread e-mail, or received and unreceived e-mail, as being in "electronic storage" under the SCA (See Theofel v. Farey-Jones, 359 F.3d 1066, 1075 -- 9th Cir. 2003).

    "[W]hen the recipient accesses an email but does not delete it, it moves from storage incident to transmission to backup storage under the second part of the SCA's 'electronic storage' definition," Opsahl writes in a post on the EFF's blog.

    But Opsahl says the DoJ has taken a different view of the SCA. He points to the DoJ's Prosecuting Computer Crimes Manual, which says that read e-mail is no longer stored communication.

    The manual says, "If the recipient chooses to retain a copy of the communication on the service provider's system, the retained copy is no longer in 'electronic storage' because it is no longer in 'temporary, intermediate storage ... incidental to ... electronic transmission,' and neither is it a backup of such a communication."

    According to Opsahl:
    The DOJ's interpretation of the SCA means that any emails that Gov. Palin had already opened (but left on the Yahoo! Mail servers) would not be protected under this email privacy law. This would mean no SCA privacy protection for the majority, if not the entirety, of the Gov. Palin's email messages at issue. As the DOJ acknowledges, "[i]f Theofel's broad interpretation of 'electronic storage' were correct, prosecutions under section 2701 would be substantially less difficult..." On the flip side, if the DOJ were right and Theofel were wrong, any hacker responsible for obtaining access to those emails - or any other individual's opened messages - could not be prosecuted under the SCA.
    Mark Rasch, a former Justice Department computer crime prosecutor, agrees with Opsahl.

    "While the DoJ guidelines are not binding on the DoJ, they certainly have persuasive authority," he said. "In this case I think the DoJ would be bound by its own interpretation of the statute and probably could not prosecute (the hacker under that statute) simply because of its own interpretation of the statute."

    As mentioned above, the hacker could still be prosecuted under the CFAA, though likely for a misdemeanor, not a felony, since there was no actual loss that resulted from the hack. More specifically, he'd be prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. 1030(a)(2)(C), accessing a protected computer without authorization to obtain information.

    Rasch says if the hacker were charged with a misdemeanor, he would likely face a sentence of zero to six months, depending on his history, attitude and contrition. If the hacker were to come forward and apologize to Palin and tell the FBI exactly what he did, prosecutors might take this into consideration.

    "If the government treats this for what it really is, which was a kid who was curious to see if he could do this . . . then the kid should be in reasonably good shape" and face "little, if any, jail time," Rasch said.

    Although there is also a possibility the government could charge the hacker with a felony under the CFAA depending on the whim of the prosecutor and whether he argued that the invasion of Palin's privacy was a torteous act. Rasch likened the situation to the government's charges against Lori Drew in the MySpace suicide case.

    "It would be a stretch to charge a felony [in the Palin case], but if they want to be hard on [the hacker], they could do that," Rasch said. "I wouldn't have predicted that they would use that argument in the MySpace case, but they did. So they could certainly do that to [Palin's hacker]."

    Little or No Jail Time Likely for Palin Hacker | Threat Level from Wired.com

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    I still want to know the IT Confidentialty rules for Alaska government employees. If Palin broke the rules by conducting state business on an unsecure email account I want her reprimanded. As I said previously, I own a business and have contracts with my State and several Counties. I have to sign contracts and provide annual proof that we meet the rules and regulations of electronic security measures. Please don't tell me the State of Alaska doesn't have a policy for their employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    All we know at this point is that some how, some way, it's Obama's fault. Just like global warming, the credit crisis, etc. Hell, Obama probably knocked up Palin's daughter for all we know.
    And he's a muslim.

    ^^^you have to add that every time we talk about him.

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