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    I liked Levi much more after I saw the interviews. I'm sure he's more or less a dickish jock, but it seems like he has some sensitivity. His sister came off as a Mean Girl in a major competition with Bristol.

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    Wednesday, April 8, 2009

    My Space Part 2

    I need to provide a quick update. This week, National Enquirer ran an article about a former boyfriend of Bristol Palin's, and named him. Several other teens involved in this story have also been named in national media. We have reconsidered our decision NOT to "name names." We are using teens' real names in our posts. However, we are not using any last names, nor are we linking to the actual MySpace pages.

    Please note that at the end of this post, there is a .pdf attachment which contains screen shots of the comments used in this post as well as the documentation that we used to prove that the redacted MySpace account that we have identifed as Bristol's was in fact hers. (Update: the pdf has been temporarily removed while we check a final fact. Please look for it to be reposted tomorrow morning.)

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    What ARE the most critical points learned from our extensive MySpace analysis?

    1. Bristol Palin dated several young men beginning when she was 15 or 16. There are strong indications that she was sexually active. Statements that were made to the press (including one from Levi himself) during the campaign that Levi and Bristol had dated for three years or "since freshman year" are no where borne out according to MySpace. If they had dated for three years as of September, 2008, that would have meant their relationship went back to September 2005. In fact, there is no evidence at all that Bristol and Levi dated prior to June 2007. This appears to be a complete fabrication, designed to show the young couple as stable and committed, when in fact they were neither.

    2. In the spring of 2007, when Bristol would have been 16 ½ years old, Sarah Palin overheard a telephone conversation between Bristol and a young man named Johnny. Johnny is someone who appears to have been a very good friend -- Bristol commented to him frequently (and usually innocuously) during the time she was in Juneau, often signing her name with a heart. Johnny has been identified multiple places (including just this week in National Enquirer) as Bristol Palin’s boyfriend prior to Levi.

    On one occasion, Gov. Palin overheard a phone conversation between Johnny and Bristol which led her to confront Bristol about whether or not she was pregnant. Even if Bristol was NOT pregnant at that time, it surely had to indicate that Gov. Palin suspected her daughter was sexually active. This would make her purported “surprise” at the news Bristol WAS allegedly pregnant with Tripp (a full year later) disingenuous at best.
    5/14/2007 Bristol to Johnny:
    ha ha, my mom was asking me who I was on the phone with last night, and she said she heard everything I was saying.. now she thinks im pregnant…ahaha call me later if you'd like
    Then there was these further exchanges between Bristol and Johnny.
    5/17/2007 Bristol to Johnny:
    haha, sorry I still had my phone taken away, but I got it back today, so you can call whenever (heart)

    5/20/2007 Bristol to Johnny:
    if you don’t call me tonight im gonna freak out.

    5/27/2007 Bristol to Johnny:
    I waited for you to call me last night.
    It’s also very interesting to note that these three comments all come within days of the phone call that Palin overheard which led her to wonder if Bristol was pregnant.

    Levi Johnston and Johnny were close friends. The National Enquirer mentions this. In their article, they claim that “Levi and Johnny had a big blowup during their sophomore year in high school when Levi and Bristol hooked up while she was still with Johnny.” Our research actually shows something a bit different.

    First, there is no indication that anything started between Levi and Bristol “during their sophomore year.” During the second half of Bristol’s sophomore year, she was attending Juneau-Douglas High School in Juneau, and, as late as May 20th (after school ended) she was sending notes to Johnny along the lines of what was quoted above: “If you don’t call me tonight I will freak out.” However, there is some indication that Bristol and Levi began dating in June of that year. Bristol makes one comment to Levi that makes it clear that Levi had left clothing at Bristol’s house. Hmmm. Perhaps they were swimming.

    However, more interesting, several comments indicate that while there was a grudge between Levi and Johnny, it was Levi that held the grudge as recently as May of 2008, not the other way around, which should have been the case if Bristol had dumped Johnny FOR Levi. We have several comments between Johnny and Mercede Johnston which makes it sound as if Mercede is trying to patch things up between her brother and Johnny. Johnny is obviously hoping there will be a reconciliation from the tone of the comments. Why there was a grudge that persisted until May of last year, and why Levi seems to be the angry one is completely unclear.

    3. Levi Johnston had multiple girlfriends from 2005 on, including one long time serious (though “on again – off again”) relationship with a girl named Lanesia. She later expressed great unhappiness over Levi's loss.

    Levi was not a lonely lad. He appears to have "dated" at least five girls, not counting Bristol Palin, from this group alone. Indications are that he was regarded as somewhat of a catch.

    One comment indicates that Levi was "messing with" two girls (neither was Bristol Palin) simultaneously on one occasion. One of the girls involved denied the accusation categorically, but the fact that the accusation was made at all (and by girls who knew Levi very well) indicates that they considered it a possibility.

    It is not clear from the MySpace comments when Bristol and Levi's relationship began, but it seems to be June of 2007. Lanesia was claiming in May 2007 that she and Levi were back together (and Bristol was not in Wasilla for most of late winter and spring of 2007).

    There was discussion in September 2007 between two friends of Lanesia, (Kaila and Jenny Jo,) claiming that Jenny Jo at some point in the past, had planned to beat Bristol up for Lanesia. This comment, interestingly, is the ONLY comment that is visible on MySpace dated after June of 2007 that either is from Bristol Palin or mentions her by name. My speculation is that, when MySpace was "scrubbed," this comment was overlooked somehow.
    9/28/2007 Kaila to Jenny Jo:
    haha, you were gonna fight Bristol for Lanesia.. idk, it was freakin hilarious though. you were getttin ready to take on like 394083 people yourself. haha..funny ass shit. call me tonight bia.
    4. In the interview that Greta Van Susteren did with Bristol Palin on February 17, 2009, Bristol told Ms. Susteren that she did not know any other girls who had been pregnant or had babies. This is totally false and seems like a pointless lie. Numerous girls in Bristol's circle at Wasilla had already had babies.

    5. Track Palin (whose has been accused of being no slacker in the party department himself) became so worried about his sister's behavior (though the exact details are not clear) at one point that he actually "outed" her to their parents, calling her a "stoner."
    4/18/2007 Bristol to Johnny
    tracks little bitch ass decited to tell my parents im a stoner..hes so tight..and when I get home, im gonna kick him in the balls.
    6. Levi Johnston had another MySpace account (which has also been removed) and which he did use, which was different from the one that has received so much publicity. (The one on which he claimed he was a f***ing redneck and did not want children.)

    However, possibly the most critical thing the MySpace analysis shows is what's NOT there. Prior to August 29, 2008 most of Bristol Palin's presence on MySpace was deliberately removed, and the "scrubbing" appears to go back, not to spring of 2008, which would have been when Bristol's pregnancy with Tripp should have commenced (and there may well have been “chatter” that the McCain campaign did not want made public), but into the summer of 2007, a full year earlier. The last comment made from the account we know to have been Bristol's came in June 2007. Going back into 2006, Bristol used MySpace frequently, commenting often on friends' pages, in a couple of cases as many as three short and quick comments in one day. What's left from spring 2007 shows that Bristol was unhappy in Juneau and liked using MySpace to keep in contact with her Wasilla friends. Levi Johnston does not appear to have been a heavy MySpace user, but he definitely had a separate account, different from the one that contained the well-publicized comment that he did not want children – and that account is also now gone.

    As has been said earlier, it's hard to recreate what was scrubbed after the fact. What's left from after June of 2007 are:
    1. No comments at all from Bristol dated after June 25, 2007.
    2. No MySpace page from Bristol, and the page that Levi Johnston actually seemed to use is also gone.
    3. One sole comment that mentions Bristol Palin by name.
    4. A few cryptic comments that we believe may refer to Bristol Palin. In one, the initials bp are used. In another, there is reference to "the governor's kid." In a third, a comment that we believe refers to Bristol talks about "you know who."

    And what was Bristol's last known comment to any friend? On June 25, 2007 she wrote:
    ha ha im a slut. but sounds good...what number?
    Coming soon: What does MySpace say specifically about whether or not Bristol Palin might have been pregnant in 2007-2008?

    posted by Audrey at 2:55 PM

    Palin's Deceptions: My Space Part 2

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    BRISTOL PALIN'S NEW MAN!

    While ex- Levi Jonston's been shooting his mouth off on TV, Bristol Palin's been getting busy - with a new man!

    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol, 18, has found the cure for the breakup blues!

    She's turned to a former beau for emotional support in the aftermath of her split with Levi, her baby mama daddy.

    The Wasilla, Alaska, teen is leaning on handsome school chum Johnny Chandler - her boyfriend before she fell for Levi, say friends.

    "Johnny feels terrible over what Bristol is going through," a pal told The ENQUIRER.

    "He thinks it's hard enough being a new single mom, and on top of it, she has to cope with a breakup that people the world over are talking about.

    "Johnny cares deeply about Bristol, but he's still a little wary of them getting too serious again right now."

    Johnny and Levi have fought about Johnny's relationship with Bristol, revealed the pal.

    "Levi and Johnny had a big blowup during their sophomore year in high school when Levi and Bristol hooked up while she was still with Johnny.

    "Bristol finally broke it off with Johnny for Levi, which pretty much ruined Johnny and Levi's friendship.

    "Johnny forgave Bristol quickly because he cared for her so much, but it took a long time before he and Levi became tight again."

    BRISTOL PALIN'S NEW MAN! - Celebrity News | Gossip - National Enquirer

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    I suppose they made Bristol and Levi say they'd been dating a long time so that the faux engagement seemed more likely and so Bristol wouldn't seem like such a slut for having sex with him.

    Bristol seems like a sad, stupid thing. I looked at the .pdf with her myspace comments and every other word is spelled wrong.

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    The parents in Alaska are apparently very skilled at picking the most god-awful names for their children. Lanesia, Kaila, Jenny Jo, Levi, Tripp, Trigg, Track, Bristol, Willow, Mercedes, oh my! Its a trashy paradise!

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    Sadly, it's not even "Mercedes". It's "Mercede", if that makes any more sense.

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    Mercedes is a very old name. Spanish.

    The car was named for a woman, not the other way 'round.

    I don't know what the fuck a 'Mercede' is.......but I guess it's 'this is your brain on drugs ' deal. Mom lost a letter somewhere.
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    I think they call her "Sadie", which is actually cuter than "Mercede".

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    Sadie...makes me think of Manson.
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    Thing is, if it's all turned sour with Bristol and Levi then he must have a LOT of dirt to dish, especially Palin's "pregnancy". Unless he's been gagged with lotsa money then he could fuck up the entire Palin clan by telling the world about the fake pregnancy, yet he hasn't... Weird.
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    I don;t like that Palin clan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    Thing is, if it's all turned sour with Bristol and Levi then he must have a LOT of dirt to dish, especially Palin's "pregnancy". Unless he's been gagged with lotsa money then he could fuck up the entire Palin clan by telling the world about the fake pregnancy, yet he hasn't... Weird.
    A smart person would wait until she's not in power anymore. She actually holds the "you'll never work in this state again" power over him. He's a Wasilla hillbilly with no education, it's not like his options are open. He could do a tell-all article or book, but he and his hillbilly family could fly through a few hundred thousand pretty quickly and then it would be gone.

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    Remember that Todd's been proven to be a stalker, and Sarah's been shown to be extremely vindictive in her political career. He can't cross them too much. I think a lot of Levi's rebellion is Mercede-driven. She seems to be really involved in this and pulling the strings to some extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotncmom View Post
    A smart person would wait until she's not in power anymore. She actually holds the "you'll never work in this state again" power over him. He's a Wasilla hillbilly with no education, it's not like his options are open. He could do a tell-all article or book, but he and his hillbilly family could fly through a few hundred thousand pretty quickly and then it would be gone.
    It's not worth as much money, tabloid-wise, if she's not in power any more. And he and his clan can always get a job in another state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotncmom View Post
    A smart person would wait until she's not in power anymore. She actually holds the "you'll never work in this state again" power over him. He's a Wasilla hillbilly with no education, it's not like his options are open. He could do a tell-all article or book, but he and his hillbilly family could fly through a few hundred thousand pretty quickly and then it would be gone.
    Palin isn't that powerful. There are a LOT of Alaskans who don't like Sarah Palin. Besides, blackmailing someone with "you'll never work in this state again" is blackmail that you'd truly go to jail for.

    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    Thing is, if it's all turned sour with Bristol and Levi then he must have a LOT of dirt to dish, especially Palin's "pregnancy". Unless he's been gagged with lotsa money then he could fuck up the entire Palin clan by telling the world about the fake pregnancy, yet he hasn't... Weird.
    I think this media tour by the Johnstons is just some of the opening shots of the Johnston family. Levi has been on Good Morning America, Tyra, and now CBS' morning show. Clearly, they're trying to send the Palins a message that if they don't play ball, they'll have to play hardball later on. Even Andrew Sullivan has noticed this.

    08 Apr 2009 12:58 pm
    The Johnston-Palin War

    It's heating up. Governor Palin has point-blank denied that Levi ever lived with the Palins. The Palins are saying he merely "stayed there" for two months. Levi and his sister Mercede have now called the Palins liars, and suggest that they are being called "white trash." This was after Palin's spokesperson trashed the teenaged father of her grandson thus:
    "Bristol did not even know Levi was going on the show. We're disappointed that Levi and his family, in a quest for fame, attention, and fortune, are engaging in flat-out lies, gross exaggeration, and even distortion of their relationship," says the statement from the Palin family rep, Meghan Stapleton. "Bristol's focus will remain on raising Tripp, completing her education, and advocating abstinence," the statement continues. "It is unfortunate that Levi finds it more appealing to exploit his previous relationship with Bristol than to contribute to the well being of the child."
    The statement ends, saying, "Bristol realizes now that she made a mistake in her relationship and is the one taking responsibility for their actions."
    The CBS morning interview:
    For some reason, Mercede also provided one photograph of Levi apparently tenderly cradling a baby that looks a great deal like Trig, the offspring of his girlfriend's mother, for the Tyra Banks show appearance. If I were Sarah Palin, I'd wind down this family spat as soon as possible, wouldn't you?

    The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan (April 08, 2009) - The Johnston-Palin War

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