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    So I checked on AA's site and a flight from say Dallas to Anchorage is 6 hours and 40 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariesoleil View Post
    So I checked on AA's site and a flight from say Dallas to Anchorage is 6 hours and 40 minutes.
    And that's just the flight. That's not counting from the moment
    her "water broke", the speech, the drive to the hotel to pick up
    her stuff, the drive to the airport, the boarding, the drive to the
    hospital........
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    ^^ and it being her 3rd baby. They usually come quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariesoleil View Post
    So I checked on AA's site and a flight from say Dallas to Anchorage is 6 hours and 40 minutes.
    I'm sorry, either she covered up her daughters pregnancy to save her political ass or she is completely insane to have boarded that long of a flight after her water broke.

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    If this were true, do you realize all the hoops this woman would have to jump through to cover this up? It just doesn't seem possible she could get away with something like this.

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    This woman is the harriet myers of vice presidents, and the hillary clinton bosnia snipers of liars.
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    This is her 5th child - and the baby was diagnosed apparently during her 4th month with Down's Syndrome, so add the factor that shes in her mid 40's and with a high risk pregnancy this is totally insane to do what she did. Something is really funny about the whole situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadDwarf View Post


    I think it's her daughter's child, not hers. That teen in the picture looks 5-6 months pregnant to me, she has the rounded stomach and the full breasts.

    I see why people want to gossip about it, but I don't think it's a big deal. A lot of grandparents raise their grandchildren as their children.
    I am not going to support this ticket, but let's say you were the Governor and a family picture was taken. Would you let her wear a clingy top? Would you put her right out there,or make sure she was more hidden-say where Dad is? Notice the Gov, has a vesty thing,covering HER up.
    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    And no airline would allow her to fly (unless she has an Alaska One 737 at her disposal?). It does sound a bit fishy.
    Alaska (where I lived two wonderful years) has more private planes than any place I have ever seen. Lots of people have a plane instead of a car. Private jets are easy to come by. The State is so vast,the State is bound to have several. It is humongous-so she must have been in a private jet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    It is my position that outing a teenage girl's pregnancy, who never asked to be in the spotlight BTW, is wrong, for both the child and grandchild. Period. Don't try to put words in my mouth.
    I totally agree. This only hurts them.

    Besides...

    Who cares.. what impact does this really have? (IF it's even true)
    In the scheme of things, this is nothing.. at least IMO.

    ALL politicians lie.. I expect them to.
    Big whoop!



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    Okay, now I found this article that was from right after the birth of
    "her" child. She went back to work THREE DAYS AFTER GIVING BIRTH (!),
    and they were already denying the "breaking water" story, but another
    obstetrician said what I said earlier: irresponsible and high infection risk.
    Her own obstetrician sounds as loony as Palin herself.


    Source: Palins' child diagnosed with Down syndrome: Top Stories | adn.com

    Palins' child diagnosed with Down syndrome
    FAMILY FEELS BLESSED: Back at work already, governor says she wasn't in labor in Texas.

    By LISA DEMER
    ldemer@adn.com


    Published: April 22nd, 2008 12:04 AM
    Last Modified: April 22nd, 2008 12:05 PM

    Gov. Sarah Palin was back at work Monday in Anchorage, holding a
    meeting on the proposed natural gas pipeline three days after giving
    birth to her fifth child.


    She and her husband, Todd, showed their new baby, Trig Paxson Van Palin,
    to a few reporters and photographers and answered questions about his
    condition and the sooner-than-expected delivery.

    Trig has Down syndrome, a genetic abnormality that affects a child's
    intellectual and physical development, the governor confirmed.

    "When we first heard, it was kind of confusing," Palin, 44, said. She called
    the revelation "very, very challenging" and said she initially felt sad.

    But the family has worked through that. Palin said she and Todd feel
    blessed and chosen by God. With a big family including four older kids,
    grandparents, aunts and uncles, Palin said, they will have lots of
    support for what's ahead. In their eyes, she said, "he's absolutely
    perfect."

    The oldest Palin kid, Track, is in the Army and texted his mother after
    learning the news with something to the effect of "This is just so cool
    -- I finally got my brother."

    In a letter she e-mailed to relatives and close friends Friday after
    giving birth
    , Palin wrote,
    "Many people will express sympathy, but
    you don't want or need that, because Trig will be a joy. You will have to
    trust me on this." She wrote it in the voice of and signed it as "Trig's
    Creator, Your Heavenly Father."

    "Children are the most precious and promising ingredient in this mixed-up
    world you live in down there on Earth. Trig is no different, except he has
    one extra chromosome," Palin wrote.

    As for people who think a baby like Trig shouldn't even be born, look around,
    the governor wrote. Who is perfect or even normal?

    A MOTHER'S AGE

    The risk of Down syndrome increases with the mother's age. For mothers
    under 30, it happens in fewer than one in 1,000 births. For mothers Palin's
    age, it's one in 35, according to the Eunice Kennedy Shriver National
    Institute of Child Health and Human Development.

    Most children with Down syndrome are considered mildly or moderately
    disabled; there's a big range. A toddler may not walk until age 2; an adult
    may never live on his own. But support groups stress that those with
    Down syndrome are more like other people than not and can live rich and
    rewarding lives.

    Because of prenatal testing, most families now know beforehand, said Judy
    Waldron, president of the Alaska chapter of the National Down Syndrome
    Congress, a support and education group that delivered a parent packet to
    the Palins in the hospital.

    "They anticipate it and they kind of relish the challenge of having a child
    with special needs," said Waldron, an Anchorage teacher whose 19-year-
    old daughter, Lyn, has Down syndrome.

    While it's "no walk in the park," the joys are great, she said. "Just the fact
    that they require such great effort to complete some simple tasks and that's
    real rewarding."

    Todd Palin said the family has gotten a flood of supportive e-mail from
    families around the country with special-needs children. He said he's playing
    it by ear as far as his North Slope job.

    Some people call them "angel children," straight from God, Waldron said.
    They are usually sweet-natured but can be ornery, like anyone.

    EARLY ARRIVAL

    Palin was in Texas last week for an energy conference of the National
    Governors Association when she experienced signs of early labor. She
    wasn't due for another month.


    Early Thursday -- she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time -- she
    consulted with her doctor, family physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who is
    based in the Valley and has delivered lots of babies, including Piper, Palin's 7-
    year-old.

    Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some
    contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been
    having for months.

    "I said I am going to stay for the day. I have a speech I was determined
    to give," Palin said. She gave the luncheon keynote address for the energy
    conference.


    Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson. The contractions slowed
    to one or two an hour, "which is not active labor," the doctor said.

    "Things were already settling down when she talked to me," Baldwin-Johnson
    said. Palin did not ask for a medical OK to fly, the doctor said.

    "I don't think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back,"
    Baldwin-Johnson said.


    So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in
    Seattle
    and checking with the doctor along the way.

    "I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to
    travel had I been fully engaged in labor," Palin said. After four kids, the
    governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn't in labor.

    Still, a Sacramento, Calif., obstetrician who is active in the American College
    of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said when a pregnant
    woman's water breaks, she should go right to the hospital because of the
    risk of infection. That's true even if the amniotic fluid simply leaks out,
    said Dr. Laurie Gregg.


    "To us, leaking and broken, we are talking the same thing. We are talking
    doctor-speak," Gregg said.

    Some airlines have policies against pregnant women onboard during the
    last four weeks of pregnancy, and the American College of Obstetricians
    and Gynecologists advises against flying after 36 weeks.

    This was going to be Palin's last flight anyway, her doctor said.


    Alaska Airlines has no such rule and leaves the decision to the woman and
    her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to
    the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said.

    "The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did
    not show any signs of distress," Boren said.

    Palin never got big with this pregnancy. She said she didn't try to hide it
    but didn't feel a need to alert the airline, either.


    They landed in Anchorage around 10:30 p.m. Thursday and an hour later
    were at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center in Wasilla.


    Baldwin-Johnson said she had to induce labor, and the baby didn't come
    until 6:30 a.m. Friday.

    "It was smooth. It was relatively easy," Palin said. "In fact it was the easiest
    of all," probably because Trig was small, at 6 pounds, 2 ounces.

    Palin said she wanted him born in Alaska but wouldn't have
    risked anyone's health to make that happen.


    "You can't have a fish picker from Texas," said Todd.

    Palin said she won't take maternity leave but will go with Trig to
    doctor's visits, physical therapy, whatever he needs. She's breast
    feeding and plans to bring Trig to work with her, just as she did
    with Piper.


    "It just feels like he fits perfectly," Palin said. "He is supposed to be here with us."


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    oh yeah, this smells to high heaven.

    wonder if there's a way to prove it.
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    Make sense. She is against abortion so that would be out of the question for her daughter. I don't think that she would be comfortable with adoption - particularly given her political status.

    And correct me if I'm wrong, but fetus abnormalities can be picked up after 20 weeks - why would a woman who obviously knew her child had Down Syndrome risk complicating the pregnancy further by continuing with a speech and boarding a flight?

    I smell bullshit.
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    and I thought you weren't supposed to fly in your third trimester anyway, she was only one month before her supposed due date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManxMouse View Post
    and I thought you weren't supposed to fly in your third trimester anyway, she was only one month before her supposed due date.
    She was also the Governor. That's worse than a 300 pound canary.
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