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    because you have to have some smarts to be a mayor and a govenor even if it is a small state..you cant be dumber than a sack of ---- and hold an office thats why.. And so I am not amazed..she has issues they all do..I am hoping for the best and if im wrong so be it..
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    Ok, for the sake of my sanity, can you PLEASE proofread your posts before you submit them? For the love of god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake View Post
    because you have to have some smarts to be a mayor and a govenor even if it is a small state..you cant be dumber than a sack of ---- and hold an office thats why.. And so I am not amazed..she has issues they all do..I am hoping for the best and if im wrong so be it..
    She hired a freaking lobbyist when she was mayor to run things for her- and people from the McCain camp are now running things in Alaska which should be her job.
    And she wants to be VP and potentially be President

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake View Post
    because you have to have some smarts to be a mayor and a govenor even if it is a small state..you cant be dumber than a sack of ---- and hold an office thats why.. And so I am not amazed..she has issues they all do..I am hoping for the best and if im wrong so be it..

    There's a difference between being smart and being intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stylejunkiex View Post
    Ok, for the sake of my sanity, can you PLEASE proofread your posts before you submit them? For the love of god.
    For the sake of everyone's sanity!
    eat a hot bowl of dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stylejunkiex View Post
    Ok, for the sake of my sanity, can you PLEASE proofread your posts before you submit them? For the love of god.
    For the sake of my sanity, too! Please learn how to use the apostrophe!

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    And use spell check.

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    Interesting article.

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    What it's like to debate Sarah Palin


    I know firsthand: She's a master of the nonanswer.

    By Andrew Halcrofrom the October 1, 2008 edition

    Anchorage, Alaska - When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full.

    I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do.

    On paper, of course, the debate appears to be a mismatch.

    In 2000, Palin was the mayor of an Alaskan town of 5,500 people, while Biden was serving his 28th year as a United States senator. Her major public policy concern was building a local ice rink and sports center. His major public policy concern was the State Department's decision to grant an export license to allow sales of heavy-lift helicopters to Turkey, during tense UN-sponsored Cyprus peace talks.

    On paper, the difference in experience on both domestic and foreign policy is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing a bullet. Unfortunately for Biden, if recent history is an indicator, experience or a grasp of the issues won't matter when it comes to debating Palin.

    On April 17, 2006, Palin and I participated in a debate at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks on agriculture issues. The next day, the Fairbanks Daily News Miner published this excerpt:
    "Andrew Halcro, a declared independent candidate from Anchorage, came armed with statistics on agricultural productivity. Sarah Palin, a Republican from Wasilla, said the Matanuska Valley provides a positive example for other communities interested in agriculture to study."

    On April 18, 2006, Palin and I sat together in a hotel coffee shop comparing campaign trail notes. As we talked about the debates, Palin made a comment that highlights the phenomenon that Biden is up against.

    "Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I'm amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, 'Does any of this really matter?' " Palin said.

    While policy wonks such as Biden might cringe, it seemed to me that Palin was simply vocalizing her strength without realizing it. During the campaign, Palin's knowledge on public policy issues never matured because it didn't have to. Her ability to fill the debate halls with her presence and her gift of the glittering generality made it possible for her to rely on populism instead of policy.

    Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into a folksy story about how she's met people on the campaign trail who face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges.
    In one debate, a moderator asked the candidates to name a bill the legislature had recently passed that we didn't like. I named one. Democratic candidate Tony Knowles named one. But Sarah Palin instead used her allotted time to criticize the incumbent governor, Frank Murkowski. Asked to name a bill we did like, the same pattern emerged: Palin didn't name a bill.

    And when she does answer the actual question asked, she has a canny ability to connect with the audience on a personal level. For example, asked to name a major issue that had been ignored during the campaign, I discussed the health of local communities, Mr. Knowles talked about affordable healthcare, and Palin talked about ... the need to protect hunting and fishing rights.

    So what does that mean for Biden? With shorter question-and-answer times and limited interaction between the two, he should simply ignore Palin in a respectful manner on the stage and answer the questions as though he were alone. Any attempt to flex his public-policy knowledge and show Palin is not ready for prime time will inevitably cast him in the role of the bully.

    On the other side of the stage, if Palin is to be successful, she needs to do what she does best: fill the room with her presence and stick to the scripted sound bites.

    Andrew Halcro served two terms as a Republican member of the Alaska State House of Representatives. He ran for governor as an Independent in 2006, debating Sarah Palin more than two dozen times. He blogs at www.andrewhalcro.com.

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    In other words - she's the consummate bullshit artist.

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    ^^ But she couldnt even bullshit properly- yeah on Alaskan issues because its taken her years to study up on that but on an international and national level - hello blizzard or incoherent words.

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    I don't think her nonsensical responses will play well to a national audience.

    I think most voters are looking for answers that are substantive especially from someone who is the running mate of a 72 year old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake View Post
    because you have to have some smarts to be a mayor and a govenor even if it is a small state..you cant be dumber than a sack of ---- and hold an office thats why.. And so I am not amazed..she has issues they all do..I am hoping for the best and if im wrong so be it..
    We had a couple mayors of a city of 100K and they were no brain surgeons.

    By the way, why do you always use 2 periods? An elipsis is a set of three, which I think you are trying to do...but it always comes out as 2, which is really confusing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiswinthorpe111 View Post
    We had a couple mayors of a city of 100K and they were no brain surgeons.

    By the way, why do you always use 2 periods? An elipsis is a set of three, which I think you are trying to do...but it always comes out as 2, which is really confusing to me.
    because I can and this is a message board..I have seen worse grammar errors in many threads..So while you are picking, go look around..you confuse pretty easily..I'm aware of what an elipses is..I choose dots..sometimes there are 2 sometimes 3 or 4 or 5..big whoopie!
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    yeah, that much is clear. And I get the sense that there is feeling among the conservative women who support her that she embodies a sort of visibility for them since they apparently don't feel accurately represented by feminism. That is what I feel coming from the audience when she speaks, this annointing of gratitude from conservatives that here is a woman who is traditional, who represents the old female way of doing things, which is to be a side-winding manipulative opportunist, because women like her know the straight-forward approach is so ridiculously off-putting to so many men. It's ironic though that women like Sarah Palin are the true "man-haters" of the world. They both despise and are proud of the fact that they are so successful in their manipulation. God I hope Biden has some advisors that really understand what she's about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcake View Post
    I think she will be fine..His character is crap
    Oh please. Stop living in denial. Palin would agree with me here when I say it's not just a river in Egypt.

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