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    Duterte's murderous tendencies are what Trump admires about him. He wishes he could act that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8_uncut-jock View Post
    I heard today that there are 4 more sealed indictments on the judicial calendar in DC this week! Let's hope they are related to this and they include Jared and Don Jr. That probably won't happen, but I'm hoping and praying! One will likely be Clovis.

    Hey Str8! Long time no see.

    I hope one of that four is Sessions.
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    Dang, Mueller is not playing around. Rick Gates had 55 bank accounts and lives in a million plus house, but he was represented by a public offender because he lawyer was compelled to testify by a judge.

    A judge just ruled Paul Manafort isnít entitled to attorney-client privilege. Huh? http://slate.me/2A51GiS
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmeringGlow View Post
    Dang, Mueller is not playing around. Rick Gates had 55 bank accounts and lives in a million plus house, but he was represented by a public offender because he lawyer was compelled to testify by a judge.

    A judge just ruled Paul Manafort isn’t entitled to attorney-client privilege. Huh? http://slate.me/2A51GiS
    Its used very little, but there is an exception for when a person's attorney or former attorney has to testify against them. Its only used for really big shit like RICO or treason or something.
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    Manafort had 3 passports, all with different names and he traveled the world this year using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8_uncut-jock View Post
    Manafort had 3 passports, all with different names and he traveled the world this year using them.
    Wow, nothing wrong here folks
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    Dare we hope for a pink wig trump (any family member) moment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8_uncut-jock View Post
    Manafort had 3 passports, all with different names and he traveled the world this year using them.
    Excerpt..

    * This year, Manafort traveled to Mexico, China and Ecuador with a phone and email account registered under a fake name. (The name was not disclosed in the filings.)

    * Over the past year, Manafort traveled to Dubai, Cancun, Panama City, Havana, Shanghai, Madrid, Tokyo and Grand Cayman Island.

    * Both Manafort and Gates were frequent travelers to Cyprus. "Extensive travel of this nature further evidences a risk of flight," the prosecutor's filing said.

    * Manafort wrote on loan applications and other financial documents that his assets were worth between $19 million in April 2012 and $136 million in May 2016.

    * In some months, like while he served as Trump's national campaign chairman in August 2016, Manafort's assessment of his total worth fluctuated. In August 2016 he said his assets were worth $28 million, then wrote he had $63 million in assets on a different application.

    * Gates "frequently changed banks and opened and closed bank accounts," prosecutors said. In all, Gates opened 55 accounts with 13 financial institutions, the prosecutors' court filing said. Some of his bank accounts were in England and Cyprus, where he held more than $10 million from 2010 to 2013.


    Prosecutors: Manafort, Gates received millions from 'Russian oligarchs' - Business Insider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8_uncut-jock View Post
    Manafort had 3 passports, all with different names and he traveled the world this year using them.
    I got three passports, couple of visas
    You don't even know my real name

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Can someone tell me why they think that repeatedly calling Manafort an 'unpaid advisor' is a good tactic? If he wasn't being paid by Trump for this high level, well paid job doesnt it make it more likely that he was getting paid by Russia.

    My brain hurts.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b03cd20b832fe0


    Paul Manafortís Daughter Texted Friends About How Tight Her Dad Was With Trump

    ďHim and Trump are perfect allies.Ē

    By Ashley Feinberg

    Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman who was indicted on federal conspiracy and money laundering charges Monday, has a long history of ties to pro-Putin groups in Ukraine. He also has a long history of connections to Donald Trump. According to leaked texts sent and received by his daughter, Andrea Manafort Shand, the two pals were ďperfect allies.Ē


    The Trump administration has been working overtime to downplay Manafortís role in last yearís campaign.


    ďPaul Manafort was brought in to lead the delegate process, which he did, and was dismissed not too long after that,Ē White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday. ďPaul was brought on sometime in June, and by the middle of August he was no longer with the campaign,Ē then-press secretary Sean Spicer said in March.


    Spicerís statement was untrue, and Sandersí claim was misleading.


    The public record shows that Manafort, who had known Trump for decades, joined his campaign toward the end of March 2016. And Manafortís eventual resignation didnít necessarily indicate he was leaving Trumpís orbit, according to his daughterís texts. Manafort Shand may have wanted to inflate her fatherís role to impress her friends. But even after her father stepped down from the campaign last August, Manafort Shand was under the impression that he had continuing influence within the Trump campaign and beyond.


    The following texts, sent by Manafort Shand to her sister, Jessica Manafort, and to friends and discovered by the website Krypt3ia earlier this year, offer a markedly different understanding of the Trump/Manafort relationship than the president and his allies are attempting to sell. (Manafort previously confirmed the authenticity of several of the texts to Politico.)


    The texts have been lightly edited for grammar and clarity.


    March 17, 2016: The Manafort daughters claim Trump asked their father to run his campaign.


    Jessica Manafort: Guess who called Dad last night and asked him to run his convention.


    Andrea Manafort Shand: Mom told me he was going to call dad. She told me to get ready for Trump to be president and pick the position in the White House I want.


    JM: Dad gave him his list of requirements and so long as he can fulfill the list, Dad accepted.


    March 29: Even before he was announced as campaign chairman, her fatherís role was much larger than the public knew, Manafort Shand claims.


    Friend: Iím not paying enough attention to really form an opinion. But yea I think economy makes sense, just hate what an asshole [Trump] is in the process.


    AMS: Well hopefully my dad will help scale that back. Thatís part of the reason he was brought on. He is refusing payment. Bc he doesnít want to be viewed as Trumpís employee. Only having his expenses covered. He is involved purely because he wants to help the country and he thinks trump is best, so long as trump gets trained a bit. PS this is all top secret, so please do not repeat.


    AMS: Dude he is second in command. Perhaps arguably running it. The campaign manager is all for show. [Corey Lewandowski] doesnít do shit. Trump has been managing his own campaign


    April 7: Manafort Shand paints her father as a master manipulator who is a close ally of Trumpís.


    [After sending her friend a CNN article hinting at Manafortís expanded role within the campaign.]


    Friend: Is Paul getting a bigger role?! Seems like it ...


    AMS: Youíre surprised?? I told you this was the game. You think Paul does anything in moderation?


    Friend: And like, if Trump gets elected, guess whoís gonna be chief of staff ...


    AMS: Phffff. He would never accept.


    Friend: Too many skeletons in his closet?


    AMS: Too constrictive. Paul is a lone wolf. Has to go his own way. Do what he wants when he wants how he wants. He doesnít have room for other people and their needs/wants.


    Friend: Yea that sounds about right


    AMS: He likes the challenge. Thatís why heís doing this. Itís a game for him. He isnít being paid.


    Friend: Man I bet heís loving it.


    AMS: This is pure sport. He is a power hungry egomaniac. Yes. He is loving it. Conclusively. Him and trump are perfect allies for this agenda. Itís so weird he is my dad.


    [Later]


    AMS: Itís just weird. Like [my dad] doesnít seem that smart. Like he is smart. But I know Iím smarter than him.


    Friend: I donít doubt that, heís a master manipulator. Which seems pretty key.


    AMS: He is very manipulative. I did inherit that ability. But I donít exploit it like he does. I know all his tactics. They arenít that brilliant but they do work.


    Friend: But yes youíre right, you have a moral conscious [sic].


    AMS: Like he just tells you the sky is green over and over. And eventually you are like is it? I donít possess the ability to just lie like he does.


    Friend: Yea he works his charm.


    AMS: Itís confidence. When you say something unwaveringly, people start to believe it.


    Friend: I mean yea that got Trump where he is today.


    AMS: Yup. Perfect allies. Trump probably has more morals than my dad. Which is really just saying something about my dad. My dad is a psycho!!! At least trump let his wives leave him. Plus, Trump has been a good father.


    AMS: Trump waited a little too long in my opinion, but I can attest to the fact that he has now hired one of the worldís greatest manipulators. I hope my dad pulls it off. Then I can sell my memoir with all his dirty secrets for a pretty penny.


    [Later, Manafort Shand talks to another friend about her feelings regarding the campaign.]


    AMS: He was brought on to be convention manager, but really it was always to run shit. And now thatís being publicly known. Or acknowledged I guess.


    [Later]


    JM: Dad and Trump are literally living in the same building and mom says they go up and down all day long hanging and plotting together


    April 12: Manafort Shand offers campaign-related favors from her father to a friend.


    AMS: By the way, if you want to exploit my dad to better your career, please let me know.


    Friend: Are you serious?


    AMS: Completely.


    Friend: I wouldnít be opposed to exploiting him.


    AMS: I am on a business email basis with my dad.


    [Later]


    AMS: My dad is Trumpís right-hand man right now and will be through November. But he wonít accept any position in the White House, so his leverage will diminish at that point (assuming Trump wins).


    April 13: Manafort refused payment as a power play, his daughter claims.


    AMS: Yup. Thatís a match made in heaven. Egomaniacs galore.


    AMS: But yea [my dad is] super tight with the Trumps. All the kids call him all the time. And him and Trump both live in Trump Tower in NYC. So itís like a sitcom. Although ó top top secret. Canít repeat, promise? My dad isnít getting paid for trump.


    Friend: WHAT, really?


    AMS: He refused payment. Trump is only covering expenses.


    Friend: Political favors later?


    AMS: Eh maybe but the truth of it is, I think there are rules for how much you can pay campaign personnel, so it isnít much to start with ó not to my dad anyway. And my dad wants Trump to listen to him and respect him. View him as an equal, not as staff. So refusing payment makes it so. And makes it clear to Trump why my dad is doing it ó because he wants to.


    AMS: And my dad wonít take an appointment either. Trump knows that, too. So this isnít for personal gain for my dad, and thatís true ó not a game. So why is my dad doing it? Sport.


    AMS: This is his wheelhouse. And he gets off on power too. My dad loves challenges and this is like a chess game. He got a mistress because he was bored. Trump is his new mistress.


    May 19: Although her father was never officially co-manager with Lewandowski, Manafort Shand claims that was effectively the case.


    [After sending her friend a link to an ABC article about Manafort moving up yet again within the campaign.]


    AMS: My mom told me they were gonna call them co-managers, and then Corey went to Trumpís son-in-law, Ivankaís husband, and burst into tears about how that would ruin him. So since my dad doesnít care about titles, this was the compromise.


    May 26: Manafort Shand offers campaign-related favors from her father to Lockheed Martin.


    Friend: Helleeew! I have an awkward favor/question to ask, so if youíre not down, I totally understand. Iím not sure how you and your dad are these days, and Iím gonna guess youíre overloaded with requests to get in touch, but if itís do-able, could you help me get in touch with or pass on an email to someone in your dads office?


    AMS: Sure, whatís your end goal?


    Friend: Itís not an effort to help the campaign. My dad works for Lockheed Martin, and they want to essentially let Trumpís transition team know that theyíre ready, available, and happy to provide info about defense acquisition and sustainment. So to discuss policy. But they canít reach out to Trumpís team ó the team would have to reach out to them. So Iíve got an email with info that would be amazing if passed on to the right people. Again ó if this is not your cup of tea, totally forget I asked. Iím only asking bc itís my dad.


    AMS: I hear ya ó itís not a problem, I just think itís probably a bit early. But I can ask my mom who the right person would be to receive the email. I would imagine Rick Davis or Rick Gates. But Iíll find out and let you/them know.


    Friend: Thank you!! I really appreciate it. I think they want to get in front ahead of time instead of play catch up. I feel weird asking for a favor like this haha.


    AMS: Youíre not the first. Itís no bother. I am happy to be a conduit. I just canít promise anything other than initial access.


    Friend: Just being a conduit is amazing! Zero expectations, just doin what I can for my dad so anything at all is fucking great.


    AMS: Totally get it. Not every day you know the man behind the man. Gotta exploit it. Which is why I am happy to help. Cuz fuck it, hopefully someone can benefit by my relation to the count of Monte Cristo.


    June 20: Manafort had enough sway to pick Trumpís vice president, his daughter claims.


    AMS: My dad is picking VP. So thereís that.


    Aug. 17: Trump hires Steve Bannon and promotes Kellyanne Conway. Manafort Shand claims that her father was really the one who hired them and that public perception of his being sidelined is incorrect.


    AMS: [My dad] hasnít been demoted. Thatís total bullshit. No surprise that the media is wrong. Again. My dad hired those 2 people. Interviewed them in trump towers


    Aug. 19: Manafort Shand claims that her fatherís resignation was merely to appease the public, but that heís still very much involved.


    AMS: So I got to the bottom of it. As I suspected, my dad resigned from being the public face of the campaign but is still very much involved behind the scenes. He felt he was becoming a distraction and that would ultimately take a toll on the campaign.


    Friend: Wow. Well, Iím really glad heís still part of it. Seriously, who knows what would have happened at the convention if he wasnít running the show.


    AMS: Yes for sure. He said that, in the next few weeks, we should hopefully be seeing a new Trump, so to speak. Last nightís speech was a speech my dad had been pushing him to make for several weeks, and since it was so well-received, he thinks Trump will be more responsive to doing things a bit differently.


    [Later]


    Friend: Thoughts go out to your pops ó I can only imagine that heís relieved, angry, hurting, a combination of a lot of emotions. Wishing you and your fam the best


    AMS: Hahaha, youíre so silly. Itís all just PR.



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    Paul Manafort, Andrea Manafort Shand and the White House did not respond to requests for comment.
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    "PS All this is top secret..."

    So fucking dumb. I like the text exchange between the Manafort daughters where they talk about their dad having had people killec in Ukraine, and how their money is blood money. I'll see if i can find that.



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    Some of Andrea Manafort’s texts with context courtesy of Business Insider:



    1. "Don’t fool yourself,” Andrea wrote to her sister, according to the texts. “That money we have is blood money.” “You know he has killed people in Ukraine? Knowingly,” she continued, according to the reviewed texts. “As a tactic to outrage the world and get focus on Ukraine. Remember when there were all those deaths taking place. A while back. About a year ago. Revolts and what not. Do you knowwhose strategy that was to cause that, to send those people out and get them slaughtered."



    2."In a later exchange with a man who appeared to be Andrea’s cousin — and one of her father’s former employees — Collin Bond, Andrea appears to have said her mother and father couldn’t go through a “public divorce” because Manafort had “too many skeletons” and “his work and payment in Ukraine is legally questionable."



    3."He is a sick f—ing tyrant,” Andrea appears to have said to Bond about her father. “And we keep showing up and dancing for him. … We just keep showing up and eating the lobster. Nothing changes."



    4."In March 2015, Andrea said their father had “no moral or legal compass."


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