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    Damn. I live in Illinois and this guy has been no good since he took office. We just get shafted time and time again when it comes to governors so unfortunately,this kind of thing isn't anything new to us.

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    UPDATE--

    WASHINGTON – Democratic leaders in Washington and Illinois called on the Illinois legislature Tuesday to quickly schedule a special election to fill President-elect Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat rather than leave that power in Gov. Rod Blagojevich's hands.

    Blagojevich, a second-term Democrat, was arrested Tuesday in connection with allegations that he sought favors to influence his choice for Obama's replacement.

    Illinois Senate President Emil Jones, who called the charges shocking, said he would soon call the chamber into session to pass a bill to establish a special election to fill the vacancy. He did so moments after Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., urged the state House and Senate to do so by a margin that could withstand a Blagojevich veto.

    "No appointment by this governor, under these circumstances, could produce a credible replacement," Durbin, told reporters in Washington.

    Durbin, the Senate's second-ranking Democratic leader, said his state faces a messy and uncertain future with Blagojevich holding the power to name someone to finish the last two years of Obama's term.

    Special elections are costly, Durbin acknowledged, but it might be coupled with a special election that will be needed to replace Rep. Rahm Emanuel. The Chicago Democrat will resign his seat soon to become Obama's White House chief of staff.

    The Constitution requires House vacancies to be filled by elections. Senate vacancies can be filled by appointment, and Illinois, like most states, gives the power to the governor.

    Blagojevich must be presumed innocent until proven guilty, Durbin said, but if the charges against him are true, "he has clearly abused the public trust." He did not call for the governor to resign, citing the innocence presumption.

    However, U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., said the legislature should begin impeachment proceedings if Blagojevich does not resign promptly.

    Durbin said his relationship with the governor has been cordial but not close. Blagojevich waited 12 days to return Durbin's recent phone call requesting a discussion of the Obama vacancy, Durbin said. The two men discussed about 20 possible replacements, Durbin said, and Blagojevich made no hint that he was seeking payments or other favors in making his choice.

    Durbin said Blagojevich's arrest should not cast a shadow over Obama's inauguration and early days as president because there was nothing improper in their relationship.

    Durbin said he worried that Obama's former seat could remain vacant for months. With Senate Democrats only a few votes short of a filibuster-proof majority in the new Congress that will convene next month, a vacancy could make it harder to pass Obama-backed measures "during a critical period in American history," Durbin said.

    The Senate could refuse to seat a person appointed by Blagojevich. Several would-be senators have been rejected that way, usually when their election was corrupted or deeply in question. The last appointed person to be refused a seat came from Alabama in 1913, when the Senate concluded the state legislature had not given the governor the power to fill a vacancy, said Senate associate historian Don Ritchie.

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    Associated Press reporter Christopher Wills in Illinois contributed to this report.

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    Guys...I hope I am wrong on this, but Obamas name is all through the transcripts from the tapes. There are lots of discussion about the president-elect and what private sector jobs he can get Blagojevich. It implies that there were ongoing discussions with Obama...although they have not shown any direct involvement from him. I am nervous about this one. Blagojevich even said that Obama could appoint his wife to a board of directors position in a foundation that gets heavy federal funding/support. Blagojevich and Harris (his support staff) seem very confident that they can work a deal with Obama...why would they think that? A history of working deals maybe? I am an Obama supporter, but this is not looking good. Not good.

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    I'm going to read them more thoroughly when I get home tonight, but from what I've seen, it looks to me like a pipsqueak stretching the truth and taking Obama's name in vain. But, like I said, I'm going to read more thoroughly to see if I get a different impression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8_uncut-jock View Post
    Guys...I hope I am wrong on this, but Obamas name is all through the transcripts from the tapes. There are lots of discussion about the president-elect and what private sector jobs he can get Blagojevich. It implies that there were ongoing discussions with Obama...although they have not shown any direct involvement from him. I am nervous about this one. Blagojevich even said that Obama could appoint his wife to a board of directors position in a foundation that gets heavy federal funding/support. Blagojevich and Harris (his support staff) seem very confident that they can work a deal with Obama...why would they think that? A history of working deals maybe? I am an Obama supporter, but this is not looking good. Not good.
    NBC said zero involvement for Obama. This guy spoke about Obama is really nasty ways & was po'd because he knew Obama wouldn't "reward"him. Another thing, with money being the whole object, it was easy to promise Obama would do this or that.Later when the truth was found out there wouldn't be a damn thing they could do,except "I tried to bribe the Gov. and he lied!" Good for 20 years or so!
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    I read that Rahm Emanuel may be one of the folks who dropped a dime on this douche-bag.

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    The governors' office is not supposed to be used to enrich yourself and your spouse.

    I'm glad this guy got caught. But I'm sure there are many more crooked politicans just like him who we never hear about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mivvi21 View Post
    Damn. I live in Illinois and this guy has been no good since he took office. We just get shafted time and time again when it comes to governors so unfortunately,this kind of thing isn't anything new to us.
    Four of the past eight Illinois governors have been arrested on some political corruption charge.

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    Holy shit this guy swears ever other freakin word. Worse than Ram??

    I'm so glad they HAVE HIM ON TAPE.

    What a corrupt piece of shit. So much of ILL is corrupt. No news there.

    MSNBC is having a field day with this!! get the popcorn.

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    Rahm Source: Story That He Tipped Off Feds To Blago Is False


    A source close to Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel is denying reports that Rahm tipped off the Feds to Blagojevich's alleged efforts to sell Obama's Senate seat.

    The rumors to this effect have been flying all afternoon, kicked off by a local Fox reporter in Chicago who claimed that he'd received a "tip" that Blago had reached out to Rahm to "leverage" filling Obama's Senate seat.

    "It may have been Rahm Emanuel who tipped the scale and made this move as quickly as it did," the reporter said.

    But a source close to Rahm emails us that "it's not true," adding that the story is the "result of some overzealous reporting."

    It was a fun one, though.

    TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Rahm Source: Story That He Tipped Off Feds To Blago Is False
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    pfft, he should take ownership and say "hell yes it was me." Spin it like "we're rooting out corruption!"
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    Whoever brought this to light should be commended. Illinois has serious issues within the government.

    Isn't he the third person who held the governor title to be arrested in the last several years?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    pfft, he should take ownership and say "hell yes it was me." Spin it like "we're rooting out corruption!"

    My Rahmbo does not strike me as a weasel, he would have walked over there and clocked the bitch himself.
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    Maybe Rod can share a cell with the former Gov George Ryan. But...Bush will probably pardon Ryan before that happens.

    It is ALL over the local news here. Looks like Jesse Jackson Jr. is running scared, and there are psychologists on the news saying Blago might have a personality disorder, i.e., sociopathic or psychopathic.

    So much for Illinois basking in the glow of the Obama victory. Back to business as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mivvi21 View Post
    Damn. I live in Illinois and this guy has been no good since he took office. We just get shafted time and time again when it comes to governors so unfortunately,this kind of thing isn't anything new to us.
    I totally agree with you, I also live in Illinois, just north of Chicago. The Chicago political machine is the most corrupt in the US. Blagojevich is a crook. He married a Chicago alderman's daughter, probably strictly to have an "in". Unbelievable. That greedy sonofabitch. He's not serving the state of Illinois, he's serving his bank account. What an arrogant prick, all the tapes they have on him with all the cussing....he's toast, he better just resign.

    Some of the names attached to this are disturbing, like Rahm Emmanual, but I give him the benefit of the doubt since he's with Obama. Jesse Jackson Jr made the statement that he wouldn't pay for play. I believe him, I seriously doubt he'd pay for the seat, his father wouldn't stand for that.

    It's definitely a sad day for the state of Illinois, and a reflection of the greed within politics.

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    December 11, 2008

    Officials Say Jackson Was ‘Candidate 5’ in Blagojevich Case

    By MONICA DAVEY

    CHICAGO — Representative Jesse L. Jackson Jr., long seen here as someone who was willing, even happy, to clash with this city’s old power structure, found himself tangled up on Wednesday in the fallout from the arrest of Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois — now a symbol of that old, unseemly political way.

    Mr. Jackson was described in an affidavit filed in Mr. Blagojevich’s arrest as one of at least six people being considered by the governor to fill President-elect Barack Obama’s unfinished term in the United States Senate in exchange for money or a new job.

    Specifically, federal authorities said, Mr. Jackson is “Senate Candidate 5,” associates of whom, the governor said in a wire-tapped conversation, were willing to raise money for Mr. Blagojevich in exchange for the seat.

    Mr. Jackson, an ambitious Democrat elected to Congress 13 years ago and the son of the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the civil rights leader, made a defiant appearance before reporters in Washington on Wednesday, denying unequivocally that he had offered Mr. Blagojevich anything in exchange for the Senate seat or had sanctioned any offer by an intermediary, as Mr. Blagojevich seemed to suggest in recordings.

    “I did not initiate or authorize anyone at any time to promise anything to Governor Blagojevich on my behalf,” Mr. Jackson said. “I never sent a message or an emissary to the governor to make an offer, to plead my case or to propose a deal about a U.S. Senate seat, period.”

    It was an awkward moment for Mr. Jackson, who has successfully portrayed himself as an outsider, a reformer willing to buck the wishes of Mayor Richard M. Daley, Mr. Blagojevich and others on matters like his support for a third Chicago airport.

    Mr. Jackson’s sparring with the political establishment had become so well understood that when Mr. Jackson and Mr. Daley hugged at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, others in the Illinois delegation said they were astonished, and Mr. Jackson, apparently overwhelmed by the unlikely moment, welled up with tears.

    Mr. Jackson, 43, represents the South Side of Chicago, where he grew up, and a swath of southern suburbs. He has long benefited, political experts said, from his father’s name and fame, winning a seat in Congress at the age of 30 after working as a national field organizer for his father’s organization, Rainbow PUSH.

    But Mr. Jackson has also worked to distance himself from his father’s image and define his own style and agenda, the experts said. He worked to create a center to eliminate health disparities, pushed to bring clean drinking water to a community in his district and supported the financing of preparatory school programs for more young people.

    Dick W. Simpson, a political scientist at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a former city alderman, described Mr. Jackson as “probably the strongest African-American politician in Illinois at the moment.”

    Mr. Jackson’s relationship with Mr. Obama has been warm. Mr. Jackson, whose sister Santita went to high school with Michelle Obama, served as a national co-chairman of Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign and as a co-chairman of his Senate race in 2004. That year, Mr. Obama approached Mr. Jackson about whether he was considering a run for the Senate before Mr. Obama decided to pursue it. (Mr. Jackson said he had decided against it and gave Mr. Obama his blessing.)

    This year, when a microphone he thought was turned off caught Mr. Jackson’s father making crude, critical remarks about Mr. Obama, accusing him of “talking down to black people,” Mr. Jackson publicly criticized the comments. “I thoroughly reject and repudiate his ugly rhetoric,” he said of his father’s comments.

    In the past month, Mr. Jackson, who is not seen as having as strong support statewide as he has in Chicago, made clear his interest in being appointed to replace Mr. Obama. His aides even commissioned a poll, not long after the election, showing Mr. Jackson as having the strongest support among the names that were being talked about.
    “Jesse has wanted to be Obama’s heir apparent ever since Obama won the Senate seat,” said Al Kindle, a South Side political consultant who helped Mr. Obama in the 2004 race. Since then, he said, Mr. Jackson “has tried to reposition himself to appeal to a broader audience.”

    Since Mr. Blagojevich’s arrest on Tuesday, prosecutors have cautioned against presuming any wrongdoing on the part of the long list of characters named in the federal affidavit as “Advisor,” “Individual,” “Senate Candidate,” “President-Elect advisor” or “Contributor.” Unclear from the affidavit is whether the alleged efforts Mr. Blagojevich discussed to secure money or a high-paying job for himself or his wife in exchange for the Senate job were entirely in his own imagination, firm agreements with others, or something in between.

    Of those alluded to, the affidavit’s implications seemed especially troubling for Mr. Jackson, or Senate Candidate Five. According to the document, Mr. Blagojevich told advisers last Thursday that he was giving Mr. Jackson “greater consideration” to replace Mr. Obama because Mr. Jackson would raise money for him, “upfront, maybe.”
    “We were approached, pay to play,” Mr. Blagojevich was recorded telling his advisers. “That, you know, he would raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him a senator.”

    And Mr. Blagojevich told one of his fund-raisers to pursue a potential financial donor who Mr. Blagojevich believed was a supporter of Mr. Jackson by saying that if the governor selected Mr. Jackson for the Senate, “some of this stuff’s got to start happening now — right now — and we’ve got to see it. You understand?”

    Mr. Jackson said he had spoken with federal prosecutors on Tuesday and was assured that he was not a target of the inquiry or accused of misconduct. He said he intended to offer his cooperation. He had met with Mr. Blagojevich for 90 minutes on Monday, the day before the arrest. It was, Mr. Jackson said, the first time the two had met in four years.

    “I thought, mistakenly, that the process was fair, above board and on the merits,” Mr. Jackson said Wednesday. “I thought, mistakenly, that the governor was evaluating me and other Senate hopefuls based upon our credentials and qualifications.”



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