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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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she's done so well so far.. voted for the iraq war, voted to use force (including nukes) on iran, voted for the patriot act... yep, real presidential.

Maybe Bush presidential.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:17 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Obama voted for the patriot act as well, and abstained from the Iran vote so that his bote could not be held against him. Sneaky, sneaky:

Barack Obama: FactCheck: Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it

Clinton took direct aim at Obama and connects fairly solidly: "You said you would vote against the Patriot Act; you came to the Senate, you voted for it." Clinton is correct to say that Obama opposed the Patriot Act during his run for the Senate. She's relying on a 2003 Illinois National Organization for Women questionnaire in which Obama wrote that he would vote to "repeal the Patriot Act" or replace it with a "new, carefully crafted proposal." When it came time to reauthorize the law in 2005, though, Obama voted in favor of it. He started out opposing it: In Dec. 2005, Obama voted against ending debate--a position equivalent to declaring a lack of support for the measure. Then in February of that year, Obama said on the floor that he would support th Patriot Act's reauthorization. In March 2006, Obama both voted for cloture and for the Patriot Act reauthorization conference report.

Let's stop all the one sidedness, and be honest about these two. They have pretty identical voting records.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:02 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Frankly, I dislike both our choices.(I'd say all three if there were a chance in hell of me voting for McInsane)
I much preferred Edwards, even tho some of his votes were wrong in the Senate. He apologized for voting for the AUMF and said it was wrong. How many politicians admit their mistakes like that?
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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This could be another reason why she is fighting on:

Poll: Clinton has better chance than Obama of beating McCain - Yahoo! News

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has a better chance than Barack Obama of beating Republican John McCain, according to a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable in the fall than her rival for the Democratic nomination.

The survey released Monday gives Clinton a fresh talking point as she works to convince pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Clinton, who won the Pennsylvania primary last week, has gained ground this month in a hypothetical head-to-head match up with the GOP nominee-in-waiting; she now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.
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Pfft, so far all she's done is stump for McCain.. Obama would mop the floor with the guy. He's already shot a few across his bow, and McCain just sputtered.
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