Hillary Clinton has LOST even if Michigan and Florida votes were counted. It's over.

[yanna]

It ain't over til it's over, baby.

[Grimmlok]

... except that it actually is over. She has 0 ability to secure the nomination. 2 + 2 = 4. You can't escape that.

[Laurent]

Honestly, I'll be shocked if McCain isn't the next president.

[yanna]

Originally Posted by Grimmlok

... except that it actually is over. She has 0 ability to secure the nomination. 2 + 2 = 4. You can't escape that.

I thought the superdelegates could overturn this, couldn't they? If she threatens to kill their dog, or something.

[Algernon]

Originally Posted by Laurent

Honestly, I'll be shocked if McCain isn't the next president.

Oh dear god, no. I am starting to fear the same thing. I feel like Hillary was our best shot at winning. But perhaps Obama will surprise me. I don't dislike him, and I'd love to see him win over ANY republican. I am just so afraid he's going to be bowled over in the election...

[january]

You can't beat the numbers. They crunched the numbers and Obama has won more of the popular vote than Clinton, and he has also won more states, and more delegates. If he isn't electable, what does that say about Clinton? How could she manage it if he somehow can't?

[LynnieD]

Originally Posted by Laurent

Honestly, I'll be shocked if McCain isn't the next president.

*breaks out the vodka* Hopefully I will miss the next 4 yrs too.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by yanna

I thought the superdelegates could overturn this, couldn't they? If she threatens to kill their dog, or something.

They can definitely overturn this. If she finds a way to "turn" enough of them her way during or before the convention, she's the nominee. The problem with that scenario is the reaction of the Obama delegates, pledged and elected. There might be fisticuffs, riots even. Spilt blood for sure. It'll be worse than 1968.

[Laurent]

Originally Posted by LynnieD

*breaks out the vodka* Hopefully I will miss the next 4 yrs too.

No more getting preggo for you then, missy.

[snuffy]

Ding, Dong the Witch is Dead!



Fear not friendly Democrats ... Obama vs. McCain will be a very good thing for all of us - no more '90's Clintonian politics of personal destruction, no. more Y2k Roveian politics of political corruption.
It will be a breath of fresh air for all of us ... I hope it smells better than it has in the past.

[A*O]

Originally Posted by Sasha

if she continues on without any notion of snatching the superdelegates, then her only purpose is to destroy the Dem nominee so she can run in 2012.

This is what the Aussie media is saying.

[Algernon]

Ugh, this thread is destroying my idealistic hopes!

[Fluffy]

Originally Posted by ManxMouse

With Hillary out, I think the Dems may ultimately be screwed. I have a bad feeling about how the general election may go.

Hilary is a huge liability because of her divisiveness. Dems have a better chance with her out of it.

Originally Posted by Laurent

Honestly, I'll be shocked if McCain isn't the next president.

Americans like their presidents tall. Shallow statement, yes, but true. You think McCain is looking forward to the debate photo op with Obama standing head and shoulder above him?

[snuffy]

Wow

[Aella]

Originally Posted by Algernon

Ugh, this thread is destroying my idealistic hopes!

Wait, you still have those?

I get idealistic hopes, on very rare occasions. Then I lie down until they go away.