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    After seeing 60 minutes this past Sunday I'm taking a new look at Obama. He came across as a bitter man doing what he could to point fingers at his rival rather than boister his own campaign. He spent more time talking about what Hilary was doing wrong than what he could do as president.

    In Hilary's interview she spent her time deflecting the questions meant to entice her to trash her opponents and came off really well. The back-to-back interviews really showed the difference between the two of them. Hilary is a seasoned politician able to turn interviews into campaign ads for herself. Obama needs to spend more time polishing his interview techniques than taking Oprah's new 'find yourself' class.

    I think they all, McCain included, should take a step back and start focusing on the job itself. Who wants a candidate more concerned with their opponents mis-steps than with the job they're trying to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    It's amazing to me to hear Hillary supporters going on and on about Obama's so-called 'lack of substance' and criticize him for his charisma, when Bill Clinton ran the SAME platform and had the SAME level of charisma. (Hell, Bill even went on the Arsenio Hall show and played the sax.) And Hillary was standing right beside him while he ran that campaign of change and hope, and used his charisma to his advantage. In fact, Hillary is still utilizing Bill's charisma in her own campaign. So, isn't it hypocritical to bash Obama for doing the same thing Bill did and that Hillary supported?
    At least Bill had substance to back it up. I also would never use the
    word "warm" in a sentence with the name Obama, except to say he
    lacks warmth (not you, kingcap, another poster).
    I just do not get the right vibe from either of them (O or Hillary), yet
    if I have to pick one, especially right now, I'll take Hillary.
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    It's amazing to me to hear Hillary supporters going on and on about Obama's so-called 'lack of substance' and criticize him for his charisma, when Bill Clinton ran the SAME platform and had the SAME level of charisma. (Hell, Bill even went on the Arsenio Hall show and played the sax.) And Hillary was standing right beside him while he ran that campaign of change and hope, and used his charisma to his advantage. In fact, Hillary is still utilizing Bill's charisma in her own campaign. So, isn't it hypocritical to bash Obama for doing the same thing Bill did and that Hillary supported?

    No one is criticizing him for having lots of charisma. We find his charisma attractive,too, we just want to know what is behind it to get the job done because charisma alone won't do it. We just haven't seen anything else and some of us really don't get how someone could be willing to vote on charisma alone, at least not anyone over age 25.

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    I said he was all fluff and no substance. He's dodged so many important votes by sayin "this shouldn't even be voted on at all", and as a result many evil creations from Bush got passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    I'll laugh so hard if McCain wins. Seriously. If some repuke retard gets in office I'm going to have a houseful of US refugees to take care of.
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    You'll have to make room for the large hairy men who will come running with their respective boyfriends
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent View Post
    My gut is telling me right now that he will.

    I think there's a lot of Democrats who will not vote for the Dem nominee if their candidate doesn't get it. If Clinton gets the nom, I think a lot of Obama people will go to McCain, and the same if Obama gets the nom. McCain is just Democratic acting enough when it suits to convince a lot of Dems that he isn't so bad. I think there's just a lot of bad blood and feelings between the Obama and Clinton folks, plus a lot of people's prejudices will come floating out, and it's going to help McCain win the presidency.
    I completely agree with you. The Dems have never won an election with a divided party. I don't see Obama supporters voting for Hillary or Hillary supporters voting for Obama. I can't believe how ugly it has become. I think McCain is going to win too. I'm so disgusted and embarrassed to be a Dem right now.
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    All of this makes me yearn for my original choice -- John Edwards. He had great ideas, experience and was likable to boot.

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    ^^True, I liked Edwards too and would have voted for him.

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    It is hard for me to understand why people say he is all fluff, we don't know what he is about. Well, you haven't did your homework. He isn't just giving electrifying speeches, if you pay attention to what he is saying he tells you his vision, and where he wants to take this Country. He speaks to people who have lost their jobs to out-sourcing, to folks who want an end to this war, to people who are on the verge of losing their homes, education, folks who want affordable health care, without being forced to take it, and much more. I was a Hillary supporter, then I took a real hard look at her, the issues, and all that she started to stand for, then I took a look at him...A HARD LOOK! In a very short time Hillary started rubbing me the wrong way, and as I talked to people who were Hillary supporters they quickly understood why I became an Obama supporter. I watched that 60 minutes interview, and he answered the questions that were asked of him...He did a good job. He is electable across the board, we saw this in Virginia..
    I am not trying to change the minds of people on this site, but to understand where he stands on the issues..take a look.
    Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Issues
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    Just because you don't agree with supporting Hillary doesn't mean that those of us who do haven't done our homework. I repeat, he has mouthed a lot of platitudes, i.e. motherhood issues that NO ONE is going to disagree with, but where are the policies? The strategies? The abilities and experience to deal with all levels of government? And don't even get me started on his wishy washy stance on abortion and other issues.

    He's head and shoulders above anything the Repugs have to offer, but I stand by my opinion. You and others are free to stand by yours, and I respect your right to do it.

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    he talks ABOUT issues, saying this or that is bad/good and that they need to change/improve it

    There's little to no "how we're going to do that"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacific breeze View Post
    Just because you don't agree with supporting Hillary doesn't mean that those of us who do haven't done our homework. I repeat, he has mouthed a lot of platitudes, i.e. motherhood issues that NO ONE is going to disagree with, but where are the policies? The strategies? The abilities and experience to deal with all levels of government? And don't even get me started on his wishy washy stance on abortion and other issues.

    He's head and shoulders above anything the Repugs have to offer, but I stand by my opinion. You and others are free to stand by yours, and I respect your right to do it.
    I would like to know where this experience she claims she has comes from. I wondered was I supporting her because of my admiration of her husband, and that was it.
    Issues:
    Barack Obama on Abortion

    • Expand access to contraception; reduce unintended pregnancy. (Feb 2008)
    • Rated 100% by NARAL on pro-choice votes in 2005, 2006 & 2007. (Jan 2008)
    • Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
    • Stem cells hold promise to cure 70 major diseases. (Aug 2007)
    • Trust women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
    • Extend presumption of good faith to abortion protesters. (Oct 2006)
    • Constitution is a living document; no strict constructionism. (Oct 2006)
    • Pass the Stem Cell Research Bill. (Jun 2004)
    • Protect a woman's right to choose. (May 2004)
    • Supports Roe v. Wade. (Jul 1998)
    • Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
    • Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
    • Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
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    Barack Obama on Education
    • Children's First Agenda: zero to five early education. (Feb 2008)
    • $4,000 college tuition for 100 hours' public service a year. (Feb 2008)
    • Put billions of dollars into early childhood education. (Jan 2008)
    • Need after-school and summer programs with good parenting. (Jan 2008)
    • Get parents re-engaged in educating the children. (Dec 2007)
    • We need a sense of urgency about improving education system. (Sep 2007)
    • Nationwide program to reconstruct crumbling school buildings. (Sep 2007)
    • STEP UP: summer learning opportunities for disadvantaged. (Aug 2007)
    • We left the money behind for No Child Left Behind. (Aug 2007)
    • Pay "master teachers" extra, but with buy-in from teachers. (Aug 2007)
    • Sends kids to private school; but wants good schools for all. (Jul 2007)
    • Supreme Court was wrong on school anti-integration ruling. (Jul 2007)
    • Incentives to hire a million teachers over next decade. (Jun 2007)
    • Pay teachers more money & treat them like professionals. (Jun 2007)
    • Public school system status quo is indefensible. (Oct 2006)
    • More teacher pay in exchange for more teacher accountability. (Oct 2006)
    • Guarantee affordable life-long, top-notch education. (Jun 2006)
    • Provide decent funding and get rid of anti-intellectualism. (Jul 2004)
    • Address the growing achievement gap between students. (May 2004)
    • Will add 25,000 teachers in high-need areas. (May 2004)
    • Supports charter schools and private investment in schools. (Jul 1998)
    • Free public college for any student with B-average. (Jul 1998) Voting Record

    • First Senate bill: increase Pell Grant from $4,050 to $5,100. (Aug 2007)
    • Sponsored legislations that recruit and reward good teachers. (Sep 2004)
    • Voted YES on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
    • Voted YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
    • Voted YES on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)

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    Barack Obama on Civil Rights.... Please don't say that you don't know where he stands, or what his voting record is when the truth is out there!!


    • People want to move beyond our divisions. (Jan 2008)
    • 2004 DNC speech merged "heritage" with "diversity". (Dec 2007)
    • The politics of fear undermines basic civil liberties. (Oct 2007)
    • Racial equality good for America as a whole. (Jun 2007)
    • Put the Confederate flag in a museum, not the state house. (Apr 2007)
    • Muslim heritage gives Obama unique influence in Muslim world. (Oct 2006)
    • No black or white America--just United States of America. (Oct 2006)
    • Forthright on racial issues and on his civil rights history. (Jul 2004)
    • Defend freedom and equality under law. (May 2004)
    • Politicians: don't use religion to insulate from criticism. (Apr 2004)
    • Miscegenation a felony in 1960 when Obamas practiced it. (Aug 1996)
    • The civil rights movement was a success. (Aug 1996) Affirmative Action

    • Fight job discrimination to give women equal footing at jobs. (Feb 2008)
    • Remove discriminatory barriers to the right to vote. (Feb 2008)
    • Benefited from affirmative action but overcame via merit. (Dec 2007)
    • Include class-based affirmative action with race-based. (Oct 2007)
    • Better enforce women's pay equity via Equal Pay Act. (Aug 2007)
    • African-Americans vote Democratic because of issue stances. (Jul 2004)
    • Supports affirmative action in colleges and government. (Jul 1998) Gay Rights

    • Being gay or lesbian is not a choice. (Nov 2007)
    • Decisions about marriage should be left to the states. (Oct 2007)
    • Homosexuality no more immoral than heterosexuality. (Oct 2007)
    • Ok to expose 6-year-olds to gay couples; they know already. (Sep 2007)
    • Has any marriage broken up because two gays hold hands? (Aug 2007)
    • We need strong civil unions, not just weak civil unions. (Aug 2007)
    • Legal rights for gays are conferred by state, not by church. (Aug 2007)
    • Disentangle gay rights from the word "marriage". (Aug 2007)
    • Gay marriage is less important that equal gay rights. (Aug 2007)
    • Gay rights movement is somewhat like civil rights movement. (Aug 2007)
    • Let each denominations decide on recognizing gay marriage. (Jul 2007)
    • Supports health benefits for gay civil partners. (Oct 2006)
    • Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
    • Marriage not a human right; non-discrimination is. (Oct 2004)
    • Include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws. (Jul 1998) Voting Record

    • Strengthen the Americans with Disabilities Act. (Aug 2007)
    • Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
    • Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
    • Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
    • Rated 100% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
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