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    They haven't won the war. They won't. Eventually we'll win. It's just a matter of time. It'll be fought in the courts and on the airwaves.

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    The Mormons poured big bucks into making sure Prop 8 passed. Assholes!

    Yeah, i find it amusing that the sister fucking polygamous mormons think they can dictate what marriage is, when the definition they push isn't even their own.

    What the hell?

    Fuck mormons, fuck Utah, a plague upon them both.
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    Action needs to happen now. Not eventually. Someone needs to sue every state that offered up this proposal for unconstituional violations of civil rights.

    Isn't this just like the Nuremberg Laws? Its preposterous!

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    you know, as corny as it sounds, when something like this happens, I always think: we ain't what we should be, we ain't what we're gonna be, but at least we ain't what we were
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    I'm sorry to everyone who is affected by this (directly and indirectly). I support you, and I hope that much like we've seen with the POTUS election, we will very soon see the much needed change in mentality in this area too. You deserve the exact same rights I enjoy. Period.
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    This makes me sad. I remember when they did this shit in Texas I was so fucking naive I actually just assumed people wouldn't be for banning gay marriage because it's so fucking silly. This is just sad.
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    wtf is wrong with people?

    i wonder if there's any way this could be pushed up to the supreme court?
    it's not the first time californians vote retarded. they elected arnie, and they also voted not to let illegal immigrants' kids from going to school and having access to hospitals, etc and that was shot down by the court as unconstitutional. it would be great if that could happen here, and even better if it's SCOTUS and not just the state supreme court.
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    Why not give everyone the right to be legally joined at least once. I have the right to be totally opposed to ever doing it again.

    I'm surprised Cali voted for Prop 8.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Yeah, i find it amusing that the sister fucking polygamous mormons think they can dictate what marriage is, when the definition they push isn't even their own.

    What the hell?

    Fuck mormons, fuck Utah, a plague upon them both.
    Now that Ohio and Florida voted for Obama, I think the new "fucking stupid State" award goes to.....UTAH!

    Congrats to the homophobic and fucking dumb Mormons for screwing with people's right to make their love official.

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    Would someone please go back in time and shoot Joseph Smith in the face.
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    Calif. gay-marriage vote undecided - Decision ’08 – ballot initiatives

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    Calif. gay-marriage vote undecided Bans pass in Fla., Ariz.; anti-abortion initiatives rejected in Colo., S.D.
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    updated 7:32 a.m. PT, Wed., Nov. 5, 2008

    A proposed ban on same-sex marriage in California widely seen as the most momentous of the 153 ballot measures at stake across the United States remained undecided early Wednesday.

    The proposed constitutional amendment would limit marriage
    to heterosexual couples, the first time such a vote has taken place in state where gay unions are legal.

    Sponsors of the ban declared victory early Wednesday, but the measure's opponents said too many votes remained uncounted for the race to be called.

    Even without the wait, gay rights activists had a rough day Tuesday. Amendments banning gay marriage were approved in Arizona and Florida, and gay rights forces suffered a loss in Arkansas, where voters approved a measure banning unmarried couples from serving as adoptive or foster parents. Supporters made clear that gays and lesbians were their main target.

    Meantime, Colorado and South Dakota rejected anti-abortion initiatives.

    Marijuana decriminalized
    In Washington state, voters decided to join Oregon as the only states offering terminally ill people the option of physician-assisted suicide.

    Michigan approved medical marijuana, and Massachusetts decriminalized the possession of an ounce or less of marijuana.

    Those results were among the more than 150 measures voted on in 36 states. Some of the nation's most divisive social issues gay marriage, abortion and affirmative action went before voters.

    In California, the night had started out optimistically for many who believed that a large Democratic-voter turnout would help defeat the state's proposed ban on same-sex marriage.

    With 92 percent of precincts reporting early Wednesday, the ban had 5,010,855 votes, or 52 percent, to 4,650,469 votes, or 48 percent, against. Late absentee and provisional ballots meant as many as 3 million ballots were left to be counted after all precinct votes were tallied.

    Similar bans had prevailed in 27 states before Tuesday's elections, but none were in California's situation with about 18,000 gay couples married since a state Supreme Court ruling in May.

    Some in San Francisco vowed to continue fighting for the right to marry if the proposition does pass. "My view of America is different today," said Diallo Grant, a gay man with mixed-race parents. "The culture wars will continue."


    San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom preached patience to the same-sex couples who were unable to enjoy Barack Obama's victory while their personal lives hung in the balance. Newsom called the wait "excruciating."

    "You decided to live your life out loud, to fall in love, and to say 'I do,' and now you have to wait for this verdict," he said.


    On same-sex marriage and affirmative action, Obama and Republican John McCain rarely made proactive comments during their presidential campaigns. Abortion also had seemed like an uncomfortable topic for them at times, although Obama made clear he supports abortion rights and McCain said he would like to ban most abortions.

    But in a half-dozen states, those three issues were front and center.

    California's opposing sides together raised about $70 million, much of it from out of state, to wage their campaigns. The outcome, either way, will have a huge impact on prospects for spreading same-sex marriage to the 47 states that do not allow it.

    'Big dam'
    The rival camps view the California vote in epic terms, with the outcome having enormous influence on prospects for same-sex marriage rights in other states.

    "If we lose California, if they defeat the marriage amendment, I'm afraid that the culture war is over and Christians have lost," said Donald Wildmon, founder of the American Family Association. "California is a big dam, holding back the flood and if you take down the dam in California, it's going to flood 49 other states."

    Obama won win easily in California, but the vote on Proposition 8 was close. Of keen interest to both sides is how churchgoing black and Hispanic voters in general a pro-Obama constituency would vote on the ballot measure.

    According to exit polls, blacks were far more likely than whites or Hispanics to support the ban. Age also was a key factor the exit polls showed voters under 30 opposing the ban by a 2-to-1 margin, while most voters 60 and older supported the ban.

    Both Obama and McCain said they oppose same-sex marriage. But Obama, unlike McCain, opposes Proposition 8 and endorses the concept of broader rights for same-sex couples.

    Gay rights also was an issue in Arkansas, where voters approved a measure banning unmarried couples living together from being adoptive or foster parents.

    The measure's sponsors painted it as a battle against a "gay agenda."

    Opponents argued it would make it harder for the state to find the foster parents it needs to take care of children.




    In South Dakota, voters defeated an initiative to ban abortion except in cases of rape, incest and serious health threat to the mother. A tougher law without the rape and incest exceptions was defeated in 2006.

    Colorado voters defeated a "personhood" amendment that would have defined human life as beginning at fertilization. The ballot did not explicitly mention abortion, but activists on both sides in the campaign viewed it as a blunt challenge to abortion rights.

    Abortion-rights activists contended that, if approved, it would have potentially led to the banning of certain types of birth control.

    Affirmative action
    Nebraska voters approved a ban on race- and gender-based affirmative action, similar to measures previously approved in California, Michigan and Washington. A similar vote in Colorado had yet to be decided.

    The man spearheading the movement, California activist-businessman Ward Connerly, said the candidacies of Obama, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin prove blacks and women no longer need affirmative action.

    "Anyone who raises $150 million in one month is being judged pretty much on the basis of their political abilities and not on the basis of race," Connerly said of Obama during a recent debate in Nebraska.

    The marijuana reform movement won two prized victories, with Massachusetts voters decriminalizing possession of small amounts of the drug and Michigan joining 12 other states in allowing use of pot for medical purposes.


    Henceforth, people caught in Massachusetts with an ounce or less of pot will no longer face criminal penalties. Instead, they'll forfeit the marijuana and pay a $100 civil fine. Barnstable District Attorney Michael O'Keefe, who led opposition to the measure, called it "bad public policy."

    The Michigan measure will allow severely ill patients to register with the state and legally buy, grow and use small amounts of marijuana to relieve pain, nausea, appetite loss and other symptoms.

    Prostitution
    Among scores of local ballot questions, one of the most provocative was in San Francisco, where a measure to decriminalize prostitution was defeated.

    Proponents said the proposition would have freed up millions of dollars spent annually by police arresting prostitutes.

    Opponents including the mayor and police department said it would have emboldened pimps and hampered the fight against sex trafficking.

    Other state issues

    Gambling-related measures were voted on to allow Ohio's first casino (rejected), establish a state lottery in Arkansas (approved), and allow up to 15,000 slot machines in Maryland (approved).
    Election-reform proposals were voted on to create nonpartisan open primaries in Oregon (rejected) and eliminate legislative term limits in South Dakota (rejected).
    Measures inspired partly by unease over immigration would designate English as the official language of government proceedings in Missouri (approved), and limit teaching of students in languages other than English to no more than two years in Oregon (defeated).
    Another Oregon initiative would tie any merit pay for teachers to "classroom performance" (defeated).
    A proposal in Missouri would require the state to produce 15 percent of its electricity from clean energy by 2021 (approved). A California initiative would require all utilities to generate 20 percent of their power from renewable energy by 2010, and 50 percent by 2025 (rejected).
    Another California measure would authorize the sale of $9.95 billion in bonds to help pay for a high-speed rail line between Los Angeles and San Francisco. It would be the most ambitious state rail project ever.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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    What's really sad is it wasn't only prop 8. Arizona's Amendment 102 and Florida's Amendment 2 both passed as well. Also, Arkansas' Initiative 1 has banned adoption of children by same-sex couples. Makes me cry.
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    The man spearheading the movement, California activist-businessman Ward Connerly, said the candidacies of Obama, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin prove blacks and women no longer need affirmative action.

    "Anyone who raises $150 million in one month is being judged pretty much on the basis of their political abilities and not on the basis of race," Connerly said of Obama during a recent debate in Nebraska.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post
    The man spearheading the movement, California activist-businessman Ward Connerly, said the candidacies of Obama, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin prove blacks and women no longer need affirmative action.

    "Anyone who raises $150 million in one month is being judged pretty much on the basis of their political abilities and not on the basis of race," Connerly said of Obama during a recent debate in Nebraska.


    wow
    Well..if that is the case..then I guess all the affirmative action needs to go to us gays then, right...since we are obviously the oppressed group..he has proven it himself right? We are obviously NOT being judged on our abilities, but on some immutable characteristic..so give us our quotas..bitches!!! Cannot have it both ways!
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    It's ironic that California helped push Obama to a historic victory and then voted for discrimination at the same time. That's like taking one step forward and one step back.

    Quote Originally Posted by RevellingInSane View Post
    Why not give everyone the right to be legally joined at least once. I have the right to be totally opposed to ever doing it again.

    I'm surprised Cali voted for Prop 8.
    That made me laugh.

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    i am heartbroken that this passed. i have been crying about it off & on all morning. it is just awful that we've come over 200 years since the inception of this country & still not everyone has equal rights. it disgusts me almost as much as it hurts my heart. i just don't get how people think this way...how people want to keep others from fully living their lives.

    ugh, here come the tears again. it's just so fucking sad.
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