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    'NO SENSE OF DECENCY'

    Republicans Thought Peter Strzok Would Be a Punching Bag. He Just Knocked Them Out.

    He was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy Trump’s congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. He was having none of it.

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    07.12.18 4:04 PM ET

    Those who forget the lessons of televised congressional hearings are doomed to repeat them, which is why the morning segment of the Capitol Hill show trial of veteran FBI agent and former head of the Bureau’s Counterespionage division Peter Strzok turned into a disaster for Republicans.


    Donald Trump’s congressional enablers, sycophants, and political suckups wanted a punching bag, but Strzok instead delivered one of the rarest of moments: the full Joseph N. Welch.


    Welch, the chief counsel for the U.S. Army during the infamous McCarthy hearings in 1954, had reached a breaking point. After McCarthy’s tendentious badgering reached a fever pitch, Welch delivered a famous rejoinder than ended the Wisconsin senator’s career. Watched by millions on live television, Welch went full beast-mode.


    “If it were in my power to forgive you for your reckless cruelty I would do so,” said Welch. “I like to think I am a gentleman, but your forgiveness will have to come from someone other than me… You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”


    This morning, it was Strzok’s turn. After an hour of drama-queen badgering from Trey “Benghazi” Gowdy and Bob Goodlatte, Strzok issued two passionate statements that will be the takeaways from an otherwise disorganized and contentious shitshow of a hearing before the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees.


    The first was a ringing defense of the FBI, with Strzok showing the kind of real passion that makes for great television. The FBI lifer issued a ringing defense of himself and his agency, punching Gowdy hard in the nose.



    “I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, at no time, in any of these texts, did those personal beliefs ever enter into the realm of any action I took.

    Furthermore, this isn’t just me sitting here telling you you don’t have to take my word for it. At every step, at every investigative decision, there are multiple layers of people above me, the assistant director, executive assistant director, deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of these decisions. They would not tolerate any improper behavior in me any more than I would tolerate it in them.”

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    He closed with this fastball:
    “That is who we are as the FBI. And the suggestion that I in some dark chamber somewhere in the FBI would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldn’t happen. And the proposition that that is going on, that it might occur anywhere in the FBI, deeply corrodes what the FBI is in American society, the effectiveness of their mission, and it is deeply destructive.”


    The second was a shot across Donald Trump’s bow: “I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity. I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.”


    This latest spectacle was designed for one purpose only: the destruction of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s Russia ties. Republicans like Fredo Nunes who have tried to present a series of dramatic, table-flipping reality TV moments to reach that goal have failed time and again to derail the Mueller investigation. This morning was yet another swing-and-a-miss for the Trump GOP.


    Because Trump supporters live in a hermetic media echo chamber, these hearings are part of a predictable, hokey Kabuki dance. They’re a device for generating a new round of hyperbolic base-only stories that will follow the same dumb arc as all the rest. In the coming days, you’ll see Sean Hannity flirt with apoplexy, coating the camera lens with flecks of spittle as he rants over Strzok’s perfidy. You’ll see pro-Trump columnists herniate themselves stretching to turn flippant text messages into a vast conspiracy. Twitter will be a flood of moronic memes, white-hot takes, and promises that Strzok will soon be in Gitmo alongside Hillary, Obama, Podesta, and Soros.

    None of it will deter the Terminator in the Special Counsel's office. None of it will change the facts of Russia's interference in the 2016 election, and Trump's ass-deep ties to Russian money and influence. Trump's unhinged, shithouse-rat-crazy tweets today should tell you how deeply he fears Mueller.





    Strzok was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy that Trump's congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. The idea that his text messages poison the entire Mueller investigation was a pillar of their defense of the president. This morning they were going for a quick kill. They needed Strzok to flail, and wilt. The Gowdy, Goodlatte, and Gaetz types needed their grandstanding, dick-waving mock outrage to leave Strozk shaking and begging for mercy.


    Strozk had none of it. In this morning’s round he left the Trumpists of the House staggered in their corner, cut and shaky, wondering where Stozok learned to hit back that hard.

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    Daniel Dale on Twitter has a review of Trump’s "interview" with The Sun. I'm not going to read the crazy, but I saw this.

    Finally, I promise, here is how The Sun said he reacted to their gift of an England football jersey: “Oh wow. I love gifts." “You don’t hear the word England as much as you should. I think England is a beautiful name.”

    ☆☆☆☆

    Deep in that Sun interview, Trump brags that his poll numbers with Republicans are even better than Lincoln's were. Lincoln died a decade before the telephone was invented and about eight decades before presidential approval polling began. https://t.co/9I5BOotua4

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    From Chris Hayes on Twitter....

    Trump to The Sun

    “Allowing the immigration to take place in Europe is a shame.

    “I think it changed the fabric of Europe and, unless you act very quickly, it’s never going to be what it was and I don’t mean that in a positive way."

    “So I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad."

    “I think you are losing your culture. Look around. You go through certain areas that didn’t exist ten or 15 years ago.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmeringGlow View Post
    ☆☆☆☆

    Deep in that Sun interview, Trump brags that his poll numbers with Republicans are even better than Lincoln's were. Lincoln died a decade before the telephone was invented and about eight decades before presidential approval polling began. https://t.co/9I5BOotua4
    Omfg. He is unbelievable
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmeringGlow View Post
    Deep in that Sun interview, Trump brags that his poll numbers with Republicans are even better than Lincoln's were. Lincoln died a decade before the telephone was invented and about eight decades before presidential approval polling began. https://t.co/9I5BOotua4

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    At least Lincoln can say he won the popular vote. Sad!

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    Strzok was a star today. Of all the important legislative topics that could be investigated, THAT is what we did today.

    Butter emails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    Strzok was a star today. Of all the important legislative topics that could be investigated, THAT is what we did today.

    Butter emails.
    I saw the meme for the first time on Twitter today.

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    From McCain's 2008 Presidential Campaign Chair Steve Schmidt:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShimmeringGlow View Post
    Daniel Dale on Twitter has a review of Trump’s "interview" with The Sun. I'm not going to read the crazy, but I saw this.

    Finally, I promise, here is how The Sun said he reacted to their gift of an England football jersey: “Oh wow. I love gifts." “You don’t hear the word England as much as you should. I think England is a beautiful name.”

    ☆☆☆☆

    Deep in that Sun interview, Trump brags that his poll numbers with Republicans are even better than Lincoln's were. Lincoln died a decade before the telephone was invented and about eight decades before presidential approval polling began. https://t.co/9I5BOotua4
    It doesn't surprise me that he chose to give an interview to The Sun. Over here its known not-so-affectionately as The Scum and the term "Sun Reader" is generally considered something of an oxymoron. It's tawdry, bigoted, sexist in a "tits or GTFO" kind of way and the newsprint comes off on your hands, leading to the old joke of "how can you tell if a man reads the Sun? He has a smudgy black dick".

    Basically, The Sun makes the Daily Heil look like the combined works of Shakespeare.
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    “You don’t hear the word England as much as you should. I think England is a beautiful name.”

    WTF is he on about?

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    He probably would like to break up Great Britain.
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    BBC interviewed the Sun reporter who said Sanders tried to end the interview but Trump “swatted her away” and “kept on talking” well beyond the allotted 10 min

    His final impression: “He is unchallenged in his own organization, it’s like being in the court of a medieval emperor”


    Trump appears visibly annoyed, looks to roll his eyes when asked, as he sits next to Theresa May, about his interview with the Sun newspaper in which he attacks Theresa May. (via BBC) https://t.co/meLaz9xjaq
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    Sadly, that's about it.
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    The reporter that asked him the question was asked to leave.

    The WH just issued this...the embarrassment continues....


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    Trump is calling a taped interview that the Sun posted audio of “fake news”

    10:07 AM - 13 Jul 2018


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