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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy
    YOU ASSUME EVERYTHING. That is where your mistake lies.
    No, I don't assume everything. I have suspicions, but those are useless without confirmation.

    So far, Chimpy hasn't disappointed in delivering confirmation of those suspicions. It's almost like clockwork.

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    Glas, what would yourhonest opinion on my dissemination and dissection abilities vis a vis Chimpy's tactics and policies?

    Am i reasonably on the mark, or am I way off?
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    It is kind of interesting, because he is running so scared. He knows his approval rating is in the toilet, and he is desparate to do something to help that. I would not put it past him to try anything out of desparation.

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    And I usually kind of see Bush's antics the same way you do, Grimm. I think he is frightened and desparate. Not being a thinker, he has to resort to rather heavy handed ways of trying to control things. But, that's just my jaded opinion.

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    And I am also heartily sick of stuff being done under the guise of it being "good for the country." Please, let me decide what is good for my country. I live in it.
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    Dear everyone in this chat,

    please Please PLEASE tell me that this theory is not true, and that we are dealing with terrorists. I could not handle thinking that 9/11 went on because of someone's machinations to get us into a war...I don't think my mind could wrap around that.
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    glamazon: The Vietnam war was based on a lie that the Vietcong had attacked a US ship in the gulf of Tonkin.

    Google it. Wars based on lies. Sounds familiar, doesn't it.

    Then, go look up "the project for a new american century" which Bush and his cronies subscribe too. Pay particular attention to the part about how "a major catastrophe, or attack on US soil would open the door for removing troubling regimes" and all that.. they were actually going to try to engineer a fake atack from Cuba to get rid of Fidel Castro..

    sound familiar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy
    No, we sift through all the bullshit.
    As in the royal "we" or the Republican "we?" Somehow I have a hard time believing that ALL the bullshit ends up on your desk.

    You are a lawyer. I have known far too many lawyers in my lifetime. Most of them aren't worth the time it takes to type the word.

    Luckily, I am married to one of the good ones. And he thinks Bush and cabal are capable of ANYTHING. As do I. And none of it for the betterment of anyone or anything except their Swiss bank accounts andan obscene perversion of Christianity to achieve their sick ends. Bush will go down in history as one of the worst U.S. presidents. He's pretty much there already.
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    h, that is if he steps aside, and doesn't become Preznit for life..
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    The best article on this subject -- if you have the time --
    is from the Guardian. The article is entitled This War on
    Terrorism is Bogus
    and it contains the following quote,
    designed to imply that PNAC advised the Presidential junta
    that a disaster on US soil would work for them.

    ...[I]t is not surprising that some have seen the US failure
    to avert the 9/11 attacks as creating an invaluable pretext for
    attacking Afghanistan in a war that had clearly already been well
    planned in advance. There is a possible precedent for this. The US
    national archives reveal that President Roosevelt used exactly this
    approach in relation to Pearl Harbor on December 7 1941. Some
    advance warning of the attacks was received, but the information
    never reached the US fleet.
    The ensuing national outrage
    persuaded a reluctant US public to join the second world war. Similarly
    the PNAC blueprint of September 2000 states that the process of
    transforming the US into "tomorrow's dominant force" is likely to be
    a long one in the absence of
    "some catastrophic and catalyzing event
    - like a new Pearl Harbor". The 9/11 attacks allowed the US to press
    the "go" button for a strategy in accordance with the PNAC agenda
    which it would otherwise have been politically impossible to implement.
    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/...036687,00.html

    As the legal profession -- I've long suspected that what matters is
    what you can prove in court, and not what really happened. To dismiss
    everything that is not provable in court as "bullsh--" is contemptuous.

    And besides, if an investigation were held into the events of 9/11,
    and if charges were somehow laid,
    what court would try this case?

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    ^^that's the other thing I am afraid of...that he will claim that a country at war cannot change leadership, and will take over. Should he become president/ commander in chief forever, will this be the beginning of the end days?

    I'm sorry that I get worked up about 9/11, but it still hurts sometimes. I would HATE to think someone would be so callous as to allow or engineer something like that...it was like a war cropped up into your breakfast table...
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    glam: Well.. what would be the best excuse for that to happen?

    Answer: a never-ending threat, a never-ending war, a never-ending need for 'steady' leadership and 'protection'.

    The War on Terror.

    It's unwinnable, like the war on drugs. All Bush would have to do is engineer something so big (say, a briefcase nuke in a major city) and everything would get suspended.. and since Bush now has the sole power to enact martial law....

    You connect the dots from here. None of this is new thinking. Kind of seems rather obvious doesn't it.
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    IF it's true, which seems plausible from the looks of this documentary, it certainly is the most dispicable act by any US government up to date (acts that include the JFK,RFK, MLK murders etc).

    What's the proof for so many of the alleged hijackers still being alive? I must have missed that part. Indeed the question remains what happened to the real passengers and real planes.
    The worst part of it all is that most people with a working brain in their heads sadly enough would not be surprised if it would turn out that this truly is what happened. What a world. Oh humanity
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    That is one of my fears, too, president for life. I remember some people trying to get that passed for Ronald Reagan. Yes, he was such a wonderful president, let's have more of him. Someone, somewhere, actually thinks Shrub is doing a bang-up job, and will be the one to spear head the campaign to do away with term limits and let him continue to ruin this country. You watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasgow53
    That is one of my fears, too, president for life. I remember some people trying to get that passed for Ronald Reagan. Yes, he was such a wonderful president, let's have more of him. Someone, somewhere, actually thinks Shrub is doing a bang-up job, and will be the one to spear head the campaign to do away with term limits and let him continue to ruin this country. You watch.
    I wouldn't mind him ruining his own country (even if it's my country too) if only it were some banana republic whose absence would not influence the state of the rest of the world. The damage this born again idiot is causing will ruin the entire planet. Can you imagine thousands of years from now history books will read stuff like ice age, dinosaurs became extinct, Bush, all life forms became extinct, except a few lucky ones who just happened to be in a space capsule, circling the planet, landed elsewhere by luck where the atmosphere was habitable and became our forefathers on that very planet they called Sanctuary.
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    Well I do mind him ruining his country because I live here, too, and I don't want to abandon it just because of him. He needs to be dealt with. It really scares me when stupid people are in charge, or made to feel like they are in charge. They inflict so much damage.
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    I mind as well. Not only is a stupid man 'in charge' (yeah, right), but a bunch of possibly stupid, definitely gullable people put him there. The country is going to hell in a handbasket and no one seems to know how to stop it from happening. Me, I'm leaning towards complete and utter anarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasgow53
    Well I do mind him ruining his country because I live here, too, and I don't want to abandon it just because of him. He needs to be dealt with. It really scares me when stupid people are in charge, or made to feel like they are in charge. They inflict so much damage.
    I repeat what I said:
    I wouldn't mind him ruining his own country (even if it's my country too) if only it were some banana republic whose absence would not influence the state of the rest of the world.
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