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    I think Trump is an idiot and a buffoon, but I think I get why people like him. He's saying something different from everyone else. Stupid as it seems, i think that's what it is in a nutshell.

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    I kind of feel like Donald Trump is like that kid who runs for class president by making all these promises (No more homework! Shorter school days!) that ultimately can't be fufilled because they aren't realistic. A couple of days ago, I saw an excerpt from an interview in which the reporter asked him how he would go about deporting all illegals; he responded by saying "It's called management". Umm, what?
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    He's very vague, isn't he? I'm so tired of hearing his voice and of hearing people talk about him. His dropping out of the race can't come soon enough.

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    I'm not sure I can explain it well, but I think people in America basically like Trump because he isn't that smart, but he keeps saying he is. It's relatable. He speaks with words that show his vast intellect (that's stupid, I'm smart!, you're a moron...those really show his level of depth), but then he counters those phrases with reminding people how intellectually superior he is. It makes me as a voter think..."hey, I use those words...he's just like me...he's smart...I'm smart too." Also, he is rich and people in America want to be rich and when we see someone who is rich who wants to be our friend then we latch onto them in some weird way because it gives us hope that we have a shot. Our electorate is so uneducated about issues that we gravitate towards candidates who look and sound like us...regular Joes (remember Joe the plumber). It's really nonsensical and counterproductive but it is how a large number of our people think. While I am on this, more and more of us are getting poorer and poorer with each passing year and well, we have to blame somebody for that (we can't take the personal responsibility)...so we believe the rhetoric that is being pushed down our throats that welfare recipients are taking our money, or "illegals" or minorities or anyone but those who are actually taking it (the top 1% earners). You see, we can't do anything to stop the 1%, but we sure can push down others who don't look like us or think like us...we can be superior to someone. Some politicians or their operatives have figured this out and they are using it for all it's worth...and people, dumb as they are, are eating it up. With that being said, I am not surprised that Trump is leading the polls and I won't be surprised if he somehow gets elected. The far right are public relations geniuses...they started this years ago by essentially branding themselves as the religious party...the people who are guarding our moral superiority...they made it commonly accepted that if you identified as Christian or moral in any way, that you had no choice but to vote republican. They hijacked religion and it is still working for them. The new theme is religious freedom...that's the new stance since simply being against certain freedoms failed...now they are fighting for your personal freedom to believe as you choose...see how genius that is...they are the only party fighting for your individual personal freedoms. How can you vote against that? And that, my friends, is why even morally bankrupted politicians like Trump can win an election in America. Rant over.

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    anyone else think that biden may be saying his dying son told him to run so that he has an excuse to challenge hillary? i HAVE to do it to honor my son!
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    No, not really.
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    I'm not sure Biden should get in if he's truly concerned about his legacy. He's as popular and well regarded as he's ever going to be. And I don't think he can win.

    Str8 - so well said. How can we have some much chutzpah in this country and have so little self-reflection, common sense and innate intelligence? It's frightening. But I'm still holding out slim hope that Trump is punking the right for Hillary's benefit.
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    Agree with Str8, he embodies the American Dream and everyone loves that.
    And although I am not at all a fan of Trump, but he not afraid to speak his mind like this


    FollowI wish good luck to all of the Republican candidates that traveled to California to beg for money etc. from the Koch Brothers. Puppets?

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    um, donald trump does NOT embody the american dream.

    he was born into money, he is not a self-made millionaire as he states. plus he's declared bankruptcy a few times. one of the times was not published - i only know about it because i had a friend who worked at Credit Suisse and was assigned to the bailout.

    i think donald acts the way that people wish they could act, and that accounts for his popularity. he gets rewarded for looking at people and saying You're Fired, You're Stupid, You're Ugly, etc. the rest of us would get fired if we behaved that way.

    if this buffoon gets elected, we'll be on the short bus to getting nuked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czb View Post
    um, donald trump does NOT embody the american dream.

    he was born into money, he is not a self-made millionaire as he states. plus he's declared bankruptcy a few times. one of the times was not published - i only know about it because i had a friend who worked at Credit Suisse and was assigned to the bailout.
    Really? seriously czb, I shouldn't have responded because I only know him from the bad hair, the going bankrupt and getting rich again (reason I thought he was 'the American Dream') and some clips on daily show. I really hope he doesn't get elected and doesn't even get close.

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    I believe he's only had a few business entities that have gone bankrupt. I don't believe he's ever, personally, gone bankrupt. Not that that says much for his business acumen.

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    I hear Trump is selling a bunch of merchandising at campaign events. Do most candidates sell this stuff, or do they usually give it away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasippu View Post
    Really? seriously czb, I shouldn't have responded because I only know him from the bad hair, the going bankrupt and getting rich again (reason I thought he was 'the American Dream') and some clips on daily show. I really hope he doesn't get elected and doesn't even get close.
    hey, i am not picking on you, so please do not think that.

    a lot of the things you stated are what people believe, but they are not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevan View Post
    I believe he's only had a few business entities that have gone bankrupt. I don't believe he's ever, personally, gone bankrupt. Not that that says much for his business acumen.
    yeah, that may be true. but he's wealthy enough to set up corps to cover him. the people who go bankrupt personally are not in a position to set up corps to cover for their personal losses. so i still see his businesses going bankrupt as his personal failure.

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    ^^^ Absolutely agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I hear Trump is selling a bunch of merchandising at campaign events. Do most candidates sell this stuff, or do they usually give it away?
    I've seen other presidential campaigns charge a nominal fee for campaign merchandise, like yard signs, bumper stickers, buttons, etc. I think the last time I looked, before Obama, a yard sign was like $8, through the campaign's website. When I went to a rally two fields over from where I was temp working for my best friend's dad, they were giving the same stuff away for free in person (and the presidential candidate was there). Funny though, because I am a registered voter with a stated party, I am overloaded with free yard signs from borough and county candidates. I wish they'd pick up their signs after the campaign because our borough is a bit grumpy when deciding if it should go in regular trash or recycling.

    ETA: random Trump story ... I remember YEARS ago, when several of his executives were killed in a chopper crash not far from me on their way to one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos, there was a story that he became superstitious about flying in choppers. He started driving there in chauffeured limos (quite a long drive from his base in NYC). One time, the limo supposedly broke down and while they were waiting for someone to switch out limos or something (my memory is fuzzy, it was quite a while ago), some working class guy stopped and offered assistance (which is actually illegal in Jersey on the Parkway, you have to have your car towed to a lot or auto repair shop) and got them on their way. I'm not sure how Trump got their info, but not long after, the story goes that he paid off that guy's mortgage. The only redeeming story I've ever heard about Trump.
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