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    Quote Originally Posted by chattykathy View Post
    That is not the whole quote. The WHOLE quote is :
    If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails."


    And if Obama is going to tell people on Capitol Hill that they can't listen to Limbaugh and work for him, he shouldn't be suprised that Rush responded by challenging him to a debate. Obama and his handlers are attacking a private citizen. That behavior is pretty heavy handed. Instead of listening to what Limbaugh had to say, they are attacking the man himself.
    And Limbaugh and his supporters are hoping that the president fails, while the country is in the middle of a massive economic crisis. After the failure of Dubya's presidency the country can't afford for another president to fail. I know Republicans think that if Obama fails then that paves the way for a GOP win in 2012, which shows that the GOP isn't putting country first.

    And Limbaugh is a private citizen with a national talk-show that has inserted himself into national politics for years. So, he's no victim here. But that's the conservative method. Attack and then whine about being a 'victim.'

    Quote Originally Posted by chattykathy View Post
    Rush said he wants Obama to fail at nationalizing banks, health care, and automotive. Frick, does anyone pay attention to the whole quote? Look how bad they messed up Fannie Mae, and tell me, do you want them doing that to hte banks and cars in the country?
    I love how Republicans and conservatives love to put the Fannie and Freddie failure on the Dems shoulders. As if the constant deregulation that Republicans pushed through had nothing to do with it. The Dems and Republicans both share the blame for the mortgage meltdown.

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    Barney Frank was responsible for that. Barney Frank is a democrat. There was a committee in 2005 that investigated, and Maxine Waters basically said, nothing to see here! and everything was fine, right up until they couldn't hide the mess anymore. Then Bush passed that stupid Bailout bill.
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    UH, alarms were sounded in 2000 over it, by Democrats, and then again in 2004, and again in 2006. Then the shit hit the fan, thanks to Rethug deregulation.

    Summary: Rush Limbaugh falsely asserted that Rep. Barney Frank "created the problem" of the subprime mortgage crisis, claiming that Frank's "definition of affordable housing was to make sure that people who couldn't pay the loans back got the loans, the mortgages. He forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to do this." In fact, Frank has advocated for policies that emphasize low-income home rentals as opposed to homeownership and supported legislation to strengthen oversight over Fannie and Freddie.

    In 2005, Frank, then the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, worked with committee chairman Rep. Michael Oxley (R-OH) on the Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005, which would have established the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) to replace the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) as overseer of the activities of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. After voting for the bill in committee, Frank voted against final passage of the bill on the House floor, stating that he was doing so because an amendment to the bill on the House floor imposed restrictions on the kinds of nonprofit organizations that could receive funding under the bill.

    In early 2007, as chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Frank sponsored H.R. 1427, a bill to create the FHFA, granting that agency "general supervisory and regulatory authority over" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and directing it to reform the companies' business practices and regulate their exposure to credit and market risk. Among other things, Frank's legislation, titled the "Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007," directed the FHFA director to "ensure" that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac "operate[] in a safe and sound manner, including maintenance of adequate capital and internal controls" and to establish standards for "management of credit and counterparty risk" and "management of market risk." The FHFA was eventually created after Congress incorporated provisions that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said were "similar" to those of H.R. 1427 into the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, which the president signed into law on July 30, 2008.
    Indeed, in his profile, Toobin wrote:

    In 2005, while the Democrats were still in the minority, Frank contributed to a bipartisan effort to put his objectives -- tighter regulation of Fannie and Freddie and new funds for rental housing -- into law. At the time, Fannie and Freddie were regulated by a small agency within the Department of Housing and Urban Development; the bill proposed to create an independent agency to monitor their operations. Frank and Michael Oxley, who was then chairman of the Financial Services Committee, achieved broad bipartisan support for the bill in the committee, and it passed the House. But the Senate never voted on the measure, in part because President Bush was likely to veto it. "If it had passed, that would have been one of the ways we could have reined in the bowling ball going downhill called housing," Oxley told me. "Barney, to some extent, is misunderstood -- with this image of him as a fierce partisan. He is an institutionalist. He believes in the House and in the process. He eschews the grandstanding style that so many members use and prefers to work behind the scenes and get something done."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    And no, i don't pollute my mind with that filth.

    He's also a racist, mysogenist and drug addicted hypocrite.

    Why anybody listens to him is beyond me.
    Yep that about explains it

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    Quote Originally Posted by chattykathy View Post
    Barney Frank was responsible for that. Barney Frank is a democrat. There was a committee in 2005 that investigated, and Maxine Waters basically said, nothing to see here! and everything was fine, right up until they couldn't hide the mess anymore. Then Bush passed that stupid Bailout bill.
    So, it was ALL Barney Franks fault? Who knew that somebody who wasn't the president had that kind of power to almost single-handedly cause a mortgage meltdown? Amazing.

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    and what about all the people that used mortgages like ATM's.....

    do they share in the blame? or can we lay that at Barney Frank's feet as well.

    There are many factors that caused this, both political parties helped, and many of our citizens themselves need to take the blame.

    It wasn't caused by one man, one party, or one President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chattykathy View Post
    Barney Frank was responsible for that. Barney Frank is a democrat. There was a committee in 2005 that investigated, and Maxine Waters basically said, nothing to see here! and everything was fine, right up until they couldn't hide the mess anymore. Then Bush passed that stupid Bailout bill.
    Are you referring to the TARP? Which was submitted and essentially written by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION when Henry Paulson was still Secretary of the Treasury six months ago. Has this fact already been forgotten? The hearings on Capitol Hill with Paulson nearly yelling it was absolutely imperative that it was passed?

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    These people have no reasoning skills. They listen to what Limpballs tells them that day, and from that day on, that's what they believe. The past is no more. Heil, Limpballs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoAmI View Post
    These people have no reasoning skills. They listen to what Limpballs tells them that day, and from that day on, that's what they believe. The past is no more. Heil, Limpballs!
    You know what the funny part is. Republicans and conservatives claim that Limbaugh isn't the leader of the Party. But as soon as Limbaugh said that he wanted Obama and his policies to fail they all jumped on the bandwagon and started saying the same thing.

    And then whenever any of them say anything against Rush publicly, they always end up apologizing to him, including the elected leader of the RNC.

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    That's what happens (as a party) when you think everybody is stupid. Ooooo a woman almost won the Dem nomination - gotta have a woman on the ticket - any imbecile will do, because you know a woman is a woman is a woman. Ooooo a black man was elected POTUS - gotta have a black man in power, because you know a black man is a black man is a black man. And now, you have an entire party grovelling at the feet of a hypocritical, mysoginistic idiot as if he's a savior. Ugh, go look at the Colbert clip posted, it's perfect. I am eternally glad I'm not a Repiblican - you would be mortified.

    By the way, I wouldn't put too much effort into debating ChattyKathy, she is the one who posted that Obama's after her dad because her dad pays 60% income taxes. There's not really anywhere you can go with that level of misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMama View Post
    That's what happens (as a party) when you think everybody is stupid. Ooooo a woman almost won the Dem nomination - gotta have a woman on the ticket - any imbecile will do, because you know a woman is a woman is a woman. Ooooo a black man was elected POTUS - gotta have a black man in power, because you know a black man is a black man is a black man. And now, you have an entire party grovelling at the feet of a hypocritical, mysoginistic idiot as if he's a savior. Ugh, go look at the Colbert clip posted, it's perfect. I am eternally glad I'm not a Repiblican - you would be mortified.

    By the way, I wouldn't put too much effort into debating ChattyKathy, she is the one who posted that Obama's after her dad because her dad pays 60% income taxes. There's not really anywhere you can go with that level of misinformation.
    I deal with some people like that at work on a daily basis. We debate politics and they just go off the deep-end, because all they watch is Fox News or listen to Limbaugh. I just like to see how far they'll go off the deep-end.

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    I like to see their eyes cross when they finally realize something does not compute. Then the "Obama is the anti-Christ" (or Muslim, or socialist) button gets switched on and that's the end of all semi-rational conversation.

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