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    Quote Originally Posted by darksithbunny View Post
    I could do much better with my money taken out for SS than the government is doing with it.
    The problem is there are an awful lot of people who depend entirely on social security checks for their retirement. If left to their own devices, they would be so destitute, cat food would be a luxury meal for them.

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    ^^You wonder if it might not just be cheaper to house and feed destitute retirees in the same manner as college students. That would be a great use for all the abandoned shopping malls around the country. The state takes over the buildings, divides them up into small apartments like college dorms, and builds a cafeteria to feed everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    The abuse is so bad that it is destroying the system. There are far too many people getting SS benefits claiming they are disabled when they are healthy enough to work.
    Yes! If the system were more thoroughly investigated and had a major rehaul, we could weed out some of the fuckers who are getting it who should NOT be!
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    There are rich fuckers earning millions or billions and THEY still collect for some reason.
    The rich fuckers feel like they've paid their money in just like everyone else so they want it back.
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    I'm of the belief that Social Security should only be for retirees. They use it for everything and it wasn't meant to be that. If they just funded retirees it would remain funded.
    Meh, what would we do with the disabled? Throw 'em under a bridge and say "fend for yourself, fuckers"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post

    Meh, what would we do with the disabled? Throw 'em under a bridge and say "fend for yourself, fuckers"?
    I think there are some people who would be more than happy to do that.
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    Qualifying for non-retiree SS is supremely difficult and in the time it takes a truly disabled person to access their benefits, they often-times already destitute. SS almost routinely denies 1st, 2d & 3d applications which requires someone to hire an attorney, etc. As with anything, there is fraud (I'd look more towards medicaid/medicare and social assistance programs that are federally funded but wholely administered at the state and local level for the most abuses...not that I'm advocating getting rid of those programs).

    I know many, of my grandparents' generation (WWII) who were very successful in their professional lives and probably would have rejected their SS to reinvest it back in the system if they were given that option or a counterbalancing tax break on capital gains or investment income.

    I don't think there's any way to fix the SS problem until we restore a lower-middle and middle class, if we ever start making things again and, of course, the younger generation needs to pop out more kids...I think our future rests on the shoulders of productive Duggars.

    Hell, I have no expectation that there will be SS when I get to retirement age and was told when I entered the workforce that it would implode long before I got there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    The problem is there are an awful lot of people who depend entirely on social security checks for their retirement. If left to their own devices, they would be so destitute, cat food would be a luxury meal for them.

    You know what? I am getting kind of tired of having to take care of the other people. I want to take care of me. That money they take from me could take care of me...and my grandmother who I know I could give her more of the money than the government can. Shit. I am just tired of taking care of other people who can't take care of themselves. Fuck it. Let them eat cat food I say!

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    I'm not saying we abandon the disabled etc. Hell my sister collects SSI for being disabled. Why does it have to come out of a program that was set up for retirees, not the disabled. The funding should come some other way, some other place. Don't ask me where, I haven't thought that out yet.
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    ^^
    That's already done. The payroll taxes used to fund social security were increased in 1956 in order to fund the disability part.

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