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    Talking The “W” Legacy… it is time for history to get it right

    And a few other 'Red State' articles that I found [unintentionally] humorous. I'd like to her Grimmlok's response to this

    It Is Time For History To Get It Right - dissidentdingo’s Diary - RedState

    I had a chance to watch the coverage of President Bush’s return to Texas and I have to say, there is something that has bothered me ever since.

    He addressed the crowd from behind a podium bearing the Texas state seal and spoke in the same folksy manner we have seen from him since day one. As he finished his speech and went on to wave, shake hands and swagger through the crowd of well-wishers, there was one thought, more of a question really, that I couldn’t get out of my head.

    Why the hell have we abandoned this guy?

    If anyone had said on September 12, 2001 that we would not suffer another terrorist attack for the balance of the Bush Presidency, I wouldn’t have believed them. If It had been said that the Democrats would gain power by trashing a military that had liberated two countries while the President’s approval numbers would drop to historically low numbers, I wouldn’t have believed that either. And I especially would not have believed that this same President would branded a “war criminal” by the media for housing terrorists…Terrorists!… in a “club-Fed” style country club that is far better than they deserve.

    So why haven’t we defended our President? Well, he was soft on illegal immigration. He spent too much. He expanded Medicare. And, of course, he didn’t really defend himself did he?

    In the face of the most un-American, visceral and defamatory liberal attacks, President Bush would famously wink and say, “Don’t worry buddy, History will get it right.”

    That obviously depends on who tells the story doesn’t it? I am reminded of my favorite line from the movie Braveheart, “History is written by men who’ve hung heroes.”

    The fact is, Republicans have never done a good job of defending our own. We allowed Trent Lott to be run out of town over some harmless comments at a ceremony honoring Strom Thurmond on his one thousandth birthday. We stood by while the media savaged George Allen over the word “Macaca”…a word most had never heard before, much less took offense to. We even had members of the McCain campaign throwing Gov. Palin under the bus over a wardrobe that she never even wanted.

    But notice that Democrats never treat their own this way. As a matter of fact, Democrats routinely close ranks around the worst of their scoundrels and demagogue anyone who dares to point out their… “scoundrelity” (there you go Wikipedia, a new word) Democrats made fools of themselves defending Bill Clinton when he tried to use his office to “fix” a lawsuit against him…not to mention countless other legal and ethical transgressions. They demand tribute in the form of confiscatory taxes on every aspect of human existence, but can’t wait to appoint a tax cheat to oversee the IRS, to go with another tax cheat (Charlie Rangel) who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, or the tax cheat…wait…I’ll come back to that one.

    But, it isn’t good enough for liberal degenerates to merely defend other liberal degenerates with shameless persistence. Those who blow the whistle on them must also be targeted for personal obliteration. (see Ken Starr, Linda Tripp, The Whitehouse Travel Office, Limbaugh, Levin, etc.…aaaaall the waaaay back to Sen. Joe McCarthy himself!)

    Instead of opposing them, we either sit on our hands or, in far too many instances, try to show liberals what good people we are by cannibalizing our own to satisfy the lynch mob.

    It is time to let the liberals do their own dirty work. It’s time for them to be put on their heels when they trash one of ours. It is time for history to get it right!

    President Bush is a great man and he was a great President. Let’s discuss the real record for a minute shall we? He did cut taxes. He did lift the ban on off-shore drilling. He did let other Republicans ride his coattails to the House and Senate in ’02 and ’04. And, above all else, he did put the Islamic terrorism on its ass… and kept it there… for seven years! He did all of this with few in his corner. Whenever the water got a little choppy, Republicans jumped ship. And those same Republicans are indignant that President Bush took few principled stands to defend conservatism. Maybe he got tired of not being able to depend on ingrates in his own party! These jokers won’t even get behind a liberal Republican, Arlen Specter, who is the only one trying to stop the appointment of Attorney General nominee, and “A-list” fraud, Eric Holder…who approved the pardon for Marc Rich…the biggest tax cheat in American history! (starting to see a pattern here with liberals and taxes?) How much support can a Conservative really expect?

    Meanwhile, the “loyal opposition” has politicized national security, obstructed the President and our military in a time of war and even fantasized about his assassination. The liberals have made a virtue out of treason by leaking battle plans and convicting our troops on the floor of the Senate and House of Representatives. Yeah, I’m talking about you John Murtha! Dick Durbin! You too John Kerry and the rest of you disgraceful traitors who are stinking-up the party that my family, except for myself, are members of. That’s right…I’m calling you traitors!

    For my part, as long as I have air in my lungs I’ll defend President Bush for being the one man in Washington who was willing, when our country most needed it, to do the right thing in the face of the most malicious personal attacks, the likes of which would have lesser men leaving town with their tails tucked.

    President Bush left office with his shoulders back and his chin up, and God bless him for it.
    Is It Just Me Or Is Sarah Palin The Only Republican Making Sense Right Now? - cityonahillpolitics’s blog - RedState


    I was listening to Bill Bennett’s radio program this morning and a caller was talking about a local event that she had attended with an official from Sen McConnell’s office. She asked this person what the Republicans in the senate were going to do to stop the socialist agenda that President Obama is pushing. His response was to say that Senator McConnell thinks that we should try to work with the current administration at this time and not try to stop it.


    So from our conservative journalists who have enjoyed a one night stand with Obama and are now publicly gushing about how great he is, to our Republican senators and representatives not only rolling over and playing dead for President Obama, but rolling out the red carpet for him, a rabid wave of Obamamania has now also infected the GOP. The difference between Peggy Noonan and Chris Matthews is now reduced to the drool around Matthews’ mouth. The difference between Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid has become the lack of a spine and the shape of their glasses. Why do we go out of our way to elect these people who get to Washington and instantly become kept men and women of the liberal establishment? It was bad enough that the Republican congress stopped being conservative and tried to woo the liberal media when they were in charge.

    One would have thought that their humiliating defeats in the last few elections would have taught them that being moderates and doormats for the Democrats isn’t a winning strategy, but here we go again. The Senate is now falling all over itself to confirm all of President Obama’s nominees. My personal favorite is Timothy Geithner, admitted tax evader, who is set to earn “widespread bipartisan support” in his confirmation vote to be the next Treasury Secretary. So, the man who failed to pay taxes for several years and only got around to it when Obama nominated him to be Treasury Secretary is going to be confirmed because of the state of the economy. I guess the theory there is that it takes a tax evader to know one? Many Republicans are expected to vote to confirm this clown. To tax evaders everywhere I tell you that you have a friend in the Treasury Department!

    Given that, I would propose that we search old footage of “To Catch A Predator” to find a child molester who happens to also have excellent credentials in the field of education to be the next Secretary of Education. As a teacher, I can attest to the fact that our education system is in need of major reforms. It’s too important to let something like kiddie porn to disqualify someone from the job. Let’s also find an illegal alien who happens to know a lot about security and put them in charge of border security. Since he knows a lot about planning terrorist attacks, let’s put Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in charge of Homeland Security (he’s going to be set free any day now anyway!) While we’re at it, let’s place Jane Fonda in charge of Veteran’s Affairs (as she knows many veterans from spitting in their faces and has had many affairs.)

    Is there any common sense left in Washington?

    The last hope for conservatism in America is the few Republican governors who are still actually conservatives. There are plenty of RINO governors like Pawlenty and Crist that are just as useless as the Republicans in Washington (also known as the Obama concubines) but there are a few shining examples of conservatism. Bobby Jindal, Haley Barbour and Sarah Palin stand as giants among them.
    I expect Governor Jindal to grow in national importance in the next few years as he will also flirt with the idea of a presidential run. As of right now, I don’t know much about the man personally, but what I have seen reflects the conservatism that our country so desperately needs right now.

    On the other hand, Governor Palin, fresh off of her run for Vice-President, still has media attention and when she speaks people listen. In both her recent interviews and her State of the State address, Palin has continued to boldly chart a path back for the Republican party by embracing the role of the pioneer woman fighting against all of the political difficulties (also known as “Yes We Can” Socialism: the “Change” Edition)by championing the optimistic America first conservatism of Ronald Reagan.

    Governor Palin has continued to cut state spending with a proposed 7% cut in this year’s budget. That is not a cut in growth, but a cut in the current spending. She continues to safeguard her taxpayers by her prudent stewardship and tremendous political courage in taking on special interests and corruption. She champions less government and more personal responsibility at a time when people are expecting Obama to pay their mortgage and the government is on a fast track to own both the banking and health care industries through the new “Yes We Can” socialism brand.

    So with socialism on the move, Governor Palin talks about renewing the spirit of Alaskans and independent responsibility, saying:
    “Now, we can’t buy into the notion that for government to serve better, it must always spend more. Reductions we support are a chance to show the true measure in public policy. Simply increasing budgets every year, a common government practice, is no guarantee of success. More often, it’s an incentive to failure. Good public policy is accountable for results, and focused on critical priorities.”
    While states like my own are asking Washington for bailouts, Governor Palin’s Alaska is strongly positioned to survive this economic situation thanks to her wise and prudent stewardship of the state’s finances. Palin reminds us that:
    “In a volatile economy, numbers are not fixed, but principles are. We’ve followed the same principles from the start of this administration: fiscal discipline, limited government, and responsible stewardship. At a time when other state legislatures are staring at multi-billion-dollar deficits, and when our federal government proposes a deficit in excess of a trillion dollars this year alone, we have all the cautionary examples we need in the virtues of living within our means. With less revenue, we have an obligation to spend less money.”
    It is important to note that Washington insiders and elites within the Republican party and conservative movement have written off this woman in favor of more insider candidates. She’s too far removed, you see, from the “brain trust” GOP cowards running the show in Washington who have decided that campaigning as conservatives to dupe the fools back home and governing like liberals is good for business. The grassroots conservatives better take a long hard look at this woman, however, as she represents the best hope we have of reclaiming the mantle of Reagan in an age of Obamamania. To social conservatives, she represents the pro-life position with more clarity and credibility than any in a generation. To economic conservatives, she is one of the few elected officials demonstrating to the American public how good sound conservative economic principles can guide this country through the tough economy to another economic growth period like the 1980s. To national defense conservatives, she represents the America first optimism and realism of Reagan that is needed in a world where global elitists and anti-freedom zealots seek to render America irrelevant, terrorists wish to kill her, and dictators spit in her face. Like the Teddy bear that carried a big stick over a century ago, Palin could be the “Mama Grizzly” to re-assert American strength and prominence.

    Most importantly, she does all of this in a way that engages the public. Sure a lot was dumped on her during the campaign and there were some mistakes made. Let’s not forget the ratings generated by her convention speech and debate performance. Let’s also not forget the massive crowds she drew everywhere she went. The American people fell in love with Sarah Palin once and they will do so again on her terms, not those of a septuagenarian liberal & media sycophant going through the motions of his last gasp for the presidency.

    It is a long road back to power for the GOP. That power, however, needs to serve a purpose. If it is more of the same mushy warmed over liberal policies of the Democrats then the GOP herd deserves to head into extinction. The conservatives of this country need to see this moment for the opportunity that it is to rebuild. Governor Sarah Palin gives us someone to build that new national movement around.
    Also published on my other site: City on a Hill Political Observer


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    just... no...
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    ^Its like you can't compute it all to even make a sizable response.

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    To be sure, I could go through it all thought by thought and wrench it apart.. but i don't have 5 hours! There's so much stupid it hurts!
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    If It had been said that the Democrats would gain power by trashing a military that had liberated two countries
    Two issues with this statement:

    1) Bush and the Republicans trashed the military by stretching it to the breaking point, and letting their corporate cronies exploit the troops and the wars.

    2) How did we liberate Iraq when we invaded the country based on a lie, and now they want the U.S. to get the fuck out? You can't say you liberated 2 countries when both countries are in worse shape than when you got there.

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    That obviously depends on who tells the story doesn’t it? I am reminded of my favorite line from the movie Braveheart, “History is written by men who’ve hung heroes.”

    Erm, Braveheart was historically incorrect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttmunch View Post
    Erm, Braveheart was historically incorrect.

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    LOL

    I saw this thread and the first thing I thought of was the line of W hotels.
    He who knows does not speak.
    He who speaks does not know.
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    I loved the "he cut taxes" line. So lets equate that to the common man's life. He gets his hours cut, so he's not bringing in as nuch money, yet triples the amount of money he's spending, which is what Bush did. didn't that get the country into the mess it's in?

    Retards.

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    Reading this, I thought it had to be a joke. But scarily, there are people who really believe this shit.

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    I just saw that Will Ferrell will be doing an entire comedy special as Dubya called 'You're Welcome America.' I can wait.

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    Yes.. this is the same W who incites so much anger that he gets shoes thrown at him, the same W who thrust us all into a war based on lies and under-the-table profiteering while simultaneously all but bankrupting us, the same W who bungled Katrina relief efforts.... I could go on and on.

    Yes, in spite of all this, it's OUR fault that the most readily-accepted opinion of Bush is that he's an incompetent idiot and not the misunderstood heroic leader this guy claims he really is. Ok.. gotcha.

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