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    Default Poland's foreign minister calls Barack Obama's grandfather a cannibal

    'Obama's grandfather was a cannibal', alleges Poland's foreign minister

    18/11/2008
    Poland's foreign minister is being investigated after allegedly making racist jibes that Barack Obama’s grandfather was a cannibal.

    Oxford-educated Radoslaw Sikorski, 45, outraged colleagues when he joked that the US president-elect had Polish roots.

    He told them: “His grandad ate a Polish missionary.”

    Opposition leaders are now calling for him to be charged with breaking laws on racism.

    Przemyslaw Gosiewski, head of the Law and Justice parliamentary group, said: “We are waiting for proceedings regarding Sikorski’s racist statements.”

    Meanwhile, MP Artur Gorski is facing a court case for allegedly making racist comments about Mr Obama.
    'Obama's grandfather was a cannibal', alleges Poland's foreign minister - mirror.co.uk
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    Maybe Poland would like another visit from Germany to refresh them on what racism can do.
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    I'm not understanding the link between calling someone a cannibal and racism. Is there more to this association than I am aware of?

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    the usual black = primitive = jungle dweller = cannibal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    the usual black = primitive = jungle dweller = cannibal
    Ah now I see it. Missionary in Africa, yea I do see that racist angle to it.

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    Guy being accused of making the joke claims the context was lacking:


    "In an episode that could potentially strain relations between Warsaw and Washington, Radek Sikorski, an Oxford-educated politician who has lived in the US, was reported to have made the jibe by an opposition politician, Ryszard Czarnecki.

    Writing in his blog, Mr Czarnecki, an MEP, quoted the foreign minister as saying: "Have you heard that Obama may have a Polish connection? His grandfather ate a Polish missionary."
    A spokesman for the Polish foreign office conceded that Mr Sikorski had made the controversial comment, but denied that the foreign minister had intended to insult Mr Obama, whose father was Kenyan.

    "Mr Sikorski did not tell a racist joke," said Piotr Paszkowski, the spokesman. "He was only giving an example of the unpalatable and racist 'jokes' that surround President Elect Obama.""
    Poland denies Barack Obama cannibal 'joke' - Telegraph
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    This is so stupid. Being a cannibal has nothing to do with racism. That's just reaching for something to bitch about.

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    “His grandad ate a Polish missionary.”
    Obviously he's implying that Obama's grandfather was a cannibal in africa and given to eating missionaries attempting to bring the light of god and civilization upon him.

    Yeah, not racist at all. Sweetie, wtf are you smoking?
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    ^ I guess not the same stuff you are.

    I just don't see how: He told them: “His grandad ate a Polish missionary.” is racist.

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    maybe the cannibal jokes are not so common in north america but they're an old standard of racist jokes in a lot of european countries. the implication being that africans are all primitive.
    cannibalism, playing the bongos, etc...
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    ^ I gotcha. I didn't know being a cannibal was only a black thing.

    I guess I learned something new today. haha

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    historically and culturally, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetie View Post
    ^ I gotcha. I didn't know being a cannibal was only a black thing.

    I guess I learned something new today. haha
    It's not; cannibalism has been practiced in various forms all over the world by many different cultures.
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    Yeah, but the pervading mindset and obvious implication is what i descibed. Even if albino eskimos on top of the world ate their own babies, it would still not be the mental image that comes up when using a phrase like that.

    Lets be realistic. It's not about what is correct, it's about what the mental image that phrase owns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    maybe the cannibal jokes are not so common in north america but they're an old standard of racist jokes in a lot of european countries. the implication being that africans are all primitive.
    cannibalism, playing the bongos, etc...
    Yes. In North America you've got to go back a couple of generations to find the whole pickaninny/cannibal/ignorant savage jokes about people of African ancestry. With the exception of white supremacists, it's mostly died out thankfully.



    ^ from the 1930 Disney movie Cannibal Capers.
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