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    Question Mormons and Catholics: partners in bashing gays and sex abuse cover-ups

    Yesterday's NY Times piece, which documented the major role played by the Mormon church in Proposition 8, also included this tidbit:

    First approached by the Roman Catholic archbishop of San Francisco a few weeks after the California Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage in May, the Mormons were the last major religious group to join the campaign, and the final spice in an unusual stew that included Catholics, evangelical Christians, conservative black and Latino pastors, and myriad smaller ethnic groups with strong religious ties.

    Shortly after receiving the invitation from the San Francisco Archdiocese, the Mormon leadership in Salt Lake City issued a four-paragraph decree to be read to congregations, saying “the formation of families is central to the Creator’s plan,” and urging members to become involved with the cause.


    “And they sure did,” Mr. Schubert said.


    We've learned one thing over the past couple weeks: The Mormons hate the kind of scrutiny they've been getting. But, it's only just begun. And, there's so much material. So much.

    But, I am intrigued by the pairing of the Catholics and the Mormons. If I know one thing about Catholics, they don't like being linked with cults -- and most Catholics think the Mormons are a cult. That may sound harsh, but I grew up Catholic and I know how Catholics think. Not sure how many Catholics are comfortable with Mormon teachings, like that whole posthumous baptism of Jewish Holocaust victims, but the California's Catholic bishops needed money to bash gays.

    So, the Catholic hierarchy in California decided to cut a deal with a group who most Catholics don't really consider a religion, but, when it comes to gay bashing, nothing is off-limits. The Catholics don't have much spare cash these days because they've spent hundreds of millions to settle sex abuse cases. The Archdiocese of Los Angeles paid out $660 million in 2007.

    But, that also got me thinking of things the Catholic hierarchy has in common with the Mormon leaders. They're both very aggressive when it comes to covering up the sex abuse of children, of course. The Mormons and the Catholics both have gone to great lengths -- and great expense -- to hide this problem.

    We know how widespread the Catholic problem is. But, the Mormons have done a better job of hiding abuse. Last year, the PBS show, Expose: America's Investigative Reports, did a show on Peter Zuckerman, a reporter in Idaho Falls, Idaho, who busted open a scandal involving sex abuse, the Boy Scouts and the Mormons. Apparently, the Mormons pretty much control the Boy Scouts in several Western states. The perp involved in the case molested a lot of young kids and a lot of adults in the Boy Scouts and the Mormon Church knew what was going on and did nothing to stop it. In fact, they kept putting the perp in positions where he was in contact with kids. They went to great lengths to cover it up. After Zuckerman exposed the scandal, he was attacked personally. And, that included going after him because he was gay. Yeah, surprise. Supporters of the Boy Scouts and Mormons played dirty and launched homophobic attacks on the reporter. According to Zuckerman, there were times when he was actually fearful for his life.

    One Idaho Falls business leader, Frank VanderSloot of Melaleuca, "The Wellness Company," (which owns Nicole Miller Skin Care), who is also a Mormon, bought full page ads attacking the series -- and the reporter who wrote it. One ad included an attack on Zuckerman's "homosexuality" claiming the gay reporter had a "personal ax to grind" because the Boy Scouts didn't allow gay reporters. Interestingly, Belinda Vandersloot, who appears to be the wife of Frank, donated $100,000 to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign. That family can't get enough of the gay-bashing.

    Zuckerman's full series, which originally ran in 2005 in the Idaho Falls Post-Register, can be found here. This wasn't an isolated incident. Subsequent investigations uncovered several other pedophiles in the Boy Scouts. The series led to a change in Idaho's laws on child abuse -- ending the statute of limitations for reporting the incidents.

    This story is eerily and disturbingly similar to the Catholic abuse stories we've heard for years. The Catholic leaders and Mormon leaders may not agree on posthumous baptism, but they've got a link when it comes to sex abuse and covering it up. So, yes, the Mormons are in the spotlight now. But, they chose it.

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    the Mormons were invited to be recognized by the mainstream religions if they helped bash gays. Like the unpopular kid invited to the popular kid's party if the unpopular kid brought the beer, the Mormons jumped on it.

    It was a win/win for the fundies and Catholics; the Mormons put in the money and are taking the heat. And, when school starts, the popular kid will start picking on the unpopular kid again.
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    Excellent analogy! I love the unpopular kid bringing the beer! Grimm, sometimes you rock my world.
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    Well really, it's a bit italian mafia don't you think? Don Popeone says "do me this favor", and the sucker takes the fall for it
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    sexual abuse (or other trauma) in childhood>>compartmentalization>>authoritarianism> >religious zealotry>>need to ward off/project left-over self-hatred from trauma >>enter minority>>places everyone, begin.

    It blows my mind we can't get a grasp on this pattern that is so destructive yet we build atom bombs and send people to the moon.

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