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    Obama has more threats than other presidents-elect - Yahoo! News

    WASHINGTON – Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

    Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.

    And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.
    In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.
    Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.
    The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.
    The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.
    Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.
    A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."

    There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:
    • In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.
    • Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.
    In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.
    In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.
    Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.

    One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."
    It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.
    "The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.

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    my boyfriend was watching the daily show with jon stewart just before and he just told me that jon was saying gun sales in USA have gone up 6 pct since the election >_>

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    Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging."
    Nation & World | Idaho sign advertises Obama 'public hanging' | Seattle Times Newspaper
    "If you are not outraged, then you are not paying attention," Heather Heyer's facebook quote.

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    I'm telling you, it won't be long before he starts traveling in one of those bullet-proof pope mobiles.
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    ^All the Secret Service limos are bulletproof.

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    Well this was a given.

    The threats on him is bullshit. Why are they angry? Because he has more melanin than you do? Seriously, fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bychance View Post
    Why are they angry?
    Because he consistently trumps the one thing to which they cling -- the inherent superiority of white people.

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    I get scary emails daily accusing him of the worst things,playing into the fears if igmo's. Like: he is a socialist. He is going to take away every one's money & share it with poor people, He will outlaw guns (he already said he wouldn't) to the point everyone is rushing out to get some extra. He promised ice cream (yes!) with no way to pay for it-we were all duped. And always the lurking "Muslim" threat. I have never seen the like-all from the religious right. I swear abortion is the main thing, as if he planned to round up pregnant women in droves.
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    Barack Obama has more threats than other presidents-elect
    We just had this debate earlier today in another thread and some people thought I was just blowing things out of proportion.

    Hopefully, Obama has good security and wears a bulletproof vest at all times. But even if, God forbid, some asshole takes him out, Pandora's Box has been opened. He broke through the glass ceiling and it's never going to be the 'old boy' network for the presidency again.

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    ^^ Well, I assumed it would be OBVIOUS that he would have more threats..him being the first black president in the U.S. and all...Really, what is there to argue about? That's obvious! And yes you were right!

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    It's also not helping him that he's "pro-abortion", as some on the other side claim.

    I truly worry about his safety.

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    Even if he wasn't pro-abortion, some people would still hate him just because he's black.

    King, you're on a roll! Two banned behind you in like 2 days! Lol!!!

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    Man, if anything ever happened to Barack, can you imagine the aftermath in America? I certainly can't.

    I feel for his little girls and his wife, this threat that looms over his head must be terrifying.
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    Default Election spurs 'hundreds' of race threats, crimes

    Election spurs 'hundreds' of race threats, crimes - Yahoo! News

    Cross burnings. Schoolchildren chanting "Assassinate Obama." Black figures hung from nooses. Racial epithets scrawled on homes and cars.

    Incidents around the country referring to President-elect Barack Obama are dampening the postelection glow of racial progress and harmony, highlighting the stubborn racism that remains in America.
    From California to Maine, police have documented a range of alleged crimes, from vandalism and vague threats to at least one physical attack. Insults and taunts have been delivered by adults, college students and second-graders.

    There have been "hundreds" of incidents since the election, many more than usual, said Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate crimes.

    One was in Snellville, Ga., where Denene Millner said a boy on the school bus told her 9-year-old daughter the day after the election: "I hope Obama gets assassinated." That night, someone trashed her sister-in-law's front lawn, mangled the Obama lawn signs, and left two pizza boxes filled with human feces outside the front door, Millner said.

    She described her emotions as a combination of anger and fear.
    "I can't say that every white person in Snellville is evil and anti-Obama and willing to desecrate my property because one or two idiots did it," said Millner, who is black. "But it definitely makes you look a little different at the people who you live with, and makes you wonder what they're capable of and what they're really thinking."
    Potok, who is white, said he believes there is "a large subset of white people in this country who feel that they are losing everything they know, that the country their forefathers built has somehow been stolen from them."

    Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old white Georgia native, expressed similar sentiments: "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change.

    "If you had real change it would involve all the members of (Obama's) church being deported," he said.

    Change in whatever form does not come easy, and a black president is "the most profound change in the field of race this country has experienced since the Civil War," said William Ferris, senior associate director of the Center for the Study of the American South at the University of North Carolina. "It's shaking the foundations on which the country has existed for centuries."

    "Someone once said racism is like cancer," Ferris said. "It's never totally wiped out, it's in remission."

    If so, America's remission lasted until the morning of Nov. 5.
    The day after the vote hailed as a sign of a nation changed, black high school student Barbara Tyler of Marietta, Ga., said she heard hateful Obama comments from white students, and that teachers cut off discussion about Obama's victory.

    Tyler spoke at a press conference by the Georgia chapter of the NAACP calling for a town hall meeting to address complaints from across the state about hostility and resentment. Another student, from a Covington middle school, said he was suspended for wearing an Obama shirt to school Nov. 5 after the principal told students not to wear political paraphernalia.

    The student's mother, Eshe Riviears, said the principal told her: "Whether you like it or not, we're in the South, and there are a lot of people who are not happy with this decision."

    Other incidents include:

    _Four North Carolina State University students admitted writing anti-Obama comments in a tunnel designated for free speech expression, including one that said: "Let's shoot that (N-word) in the head." Obama has received more threats than any other president-elect, authorities say.
    _At Standish, Maine, a sign inside the Oak Hill General Store read: "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool." Customers could sign up to bet $1 on a date when Obama would be killed. "Stabbing, shooting, roadside bombs, they all count," the sign said. At the bottom of the marker board was written "Let's hope someone wins."
    _Racist graffiti was found in places including New York's Long Island, where two dozen cars were spray-painted; Kilgore, Texas, where the local high school and skate park were defaced; and the Los Angeles area, where swastikas, racial slurs and "Go Back To Africa" were spray painted on sidewalks, houses and cars.
    _Second- and third-grade students on a school bus in Rexburg, Idaho, chanted "assassinate Obama," a district official said.
    _University of Alabama professor Marsha L. Houston said a poster of the Obama family was ripped off her office door. A replacement poster was defaced with a death threat and a racial slur. "It seems the election brought the racist rats out of the woodwork," Houston said.
    _Black figures were hanged by nooses from trees on Mount Desert Island, Maine, the Bangor Daily News reported. The president of Baylor University in Waco, Texas said a rope found hanging from a campus tree was apparently an abandoned swing and not a noose.
    _Crosses were burned in yards of Obama supporters in Hardwick, N.J., and Apolacan Township, Pa.
    _A black teenager in New York City said he was attacked with a bat on election night by four white men who shouted 'Obama.'
    _In the Pittsburgh suburb of Forest Hills, a black man said he found a note with a racial slur on his car windshield, saying "now that you voted for Obama, just watch out for your house."

    Emotions are often raw after a hard-fought political campaign, but now those on the losing side have an easy target for their anger.
    "The principle is very simple," said BJ Gallagher, a sociologist and co-author of the diversity book "A Peacock in the Land of Penguins." "If I can't hurt the person I'm angry at, then I'll vent my anger on a substitute, i.e., someone of the same race."

    "We saw the same thing happen after the 9-11 attacks, as a wave of anti-Muslim violence swept the country. We saw it happen after the Rodney King verdict, when Los Angeles blacks erupted in rage at the injustice perpetrated by 'the white man.'"
    "It's as stupid and ineffectual as kicking your dog when you've had a bad day at the office," Gallagher said. "But it happens a lot."

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    ^Gee, more than half the article was bolded...

    I hope these decrease in the months ahead and after Inauguration Day.

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