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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Poll on Sarah Palin-need your help! SOS!

Just got this email from a Church Lady friend. No wonder they are gaining here! Let's see what we can do-everyone help! VOTE NO !!!
OOPSEY. Poll no good!

Tsk,tsk. I never expected this from a Church Lady who always checks Snopes!
It was fun & some people got to vote!
Grimm,you did good.
Cynic-you are just lusting after Palin and we know it!!
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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uh, stupid bitch IS NOT QUALIFIED

just because you think she's pretty DOES NOT MEAN SHE'S QUALIFIED

Just because she's a mother (who can barely control her own household) DOES NOT MAKE HER QUALIFIED

Try picking up a book other than the bible, you might actually LEARN SOMETHING
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Wow. So far she's up in the polls.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Try picking up a book other than the bible, you might actually LEARN SOMETHING
You're giving them too much credit, they don't actually read the Bible, they pay a child molester to read it to them.
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HAH!

I hit "no"

on what planet to these morons live
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Old October 28th, 2008, 01:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Who are the 50% that think she's qualifed? Probably the same people that think Bush is a good president.
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Just vote NO!!! We need to knock this down,people!!
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Old October 28th, 2008, 02:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I just voted no. Who are the 50% of retards that voted yes?
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Old October 28th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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In all good spirit everyone talking about how dumb she and her supporters are need to look at themselves before they speak in this case. You've all been taken in by an email hoax that was already covered really widely in the news, and exposed CNN's polls as bullshit.

think for a moment - there is no such thing as an accurate poll where you can vote more than once, and PBS wouldn't broadcast the result of such an poll. They had started a poll and when they realized you could vote more than once they stopped that.

PBS is one of the few places in the US where the real story of anything in the news is actually told. This is NOW- started by Bill Moyers, one of the last real journalists in this country.

Here is the actual story about this.....


I am writing in reference to the now famous "Palin poll" that appeared on the NOW on PBS homepage on September 5. It's no longer on the homepage; in fact, it's no longer a page that the online user can navigate to using menus, but hundreds of thousands of unique visitors are still accessing the poll and voting. How is that possible, and is that a good thing? More on that in a moment, after a side trip through the world of Internet "cookies."

PBS headquarters made the decision on September 22, to implement a cookie registration system on the Palin poll. That system is now part of the poll's inner code, and as of September 23, a user can only vote once per computer. PBS acted because the entire pbs.org site had been experiencing system overload due to massive accessing of the poll.

The poll asks the question, "Do you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?" The user answers clicks to answer "Yes" or "No." From September 5 to September 22, our software allowed online users to vote repeatedly. Sounds bad, right? But we at NOW had serious concerns about user privacy. "Cookies" are small text files placed on the user's system without that person's knowledge. Many computer users regard them as invasive.

Other possible fixes: we could have insisted on voters registering with their email addresses. But people could still vote several times using different email addresses. Or we could insist on a unique identifier - a user's social security number. This was clearly way over the line in violation of user privacy.

What are other media organizations doing? CNN.com does exactly what we had been doing—their polls allow multiple votes. The website of the newspaper USA Today also uses polls, called "USA TODAY Snapshot", but it employs the "cookie" approach to restrict multiple voting.

So, is the Palin poll now "scientific"? Absolutely not. It is still subject to large scale efforts on the left and the right to mobilize people to vote. The poll has become something of a Rorschach test, a tiny political marker in a tightly contested race. Over the past two weeks, the results of the poll see-sawed back and forth from a majority saying "No" to a majority saying, "Yes". At the moment the single-voter system was implemented, it was close to a tie: 50% say Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President, and 48% say no. Those results, in my view, are actually a measure of the mobilization and manipulation efforts by partisans on both sides. Now it will be all about mobilization, and less about manipulation. Blogs on the left and right are circulating viral emails with the exact address of the poll.

Some users have raised questions about our decision to collect opinion about Sarah Palin's qualifications in a poll. For a more complete discussion, take a moment to read the September 19 column of Michael Getler, the PBS Ombudsman.

The Palin poll is no longer in our home page rotation. We've moved on to other polls; each week you'll find one in the bottom right corner of our home page. The current poll asks, "Who do you trust more to fix the nation's economic mess—Barack Obama or John McCain?" It has already attracted a lot of interest.

And let's keep in mind the purpose of these weekly polls. They invite people who might not ordinarily come to our site to participate, and they encourage people to explore the deep journalism that is offered throughout NOW's nearly 10,000 web pages and 1,000 video streams. They don't provide the nuanced interpretation of our investigative journalism and deep content, but do provide a gateway to that content. An example: on Friday, September 19, we aired a one-hour special about women and politics on our broadcast. In the days since the air date, that online video has become the most viewed video on the PBS Election Site. For online users who are deeply interested in the issues raised during this election, the polls are only a starting point. There's a lot more to explore, to read, and to view.

I welcome your thoughts and comments about the Palin poll. Please use this specific Feedback Forum to share your opinions.



UPDATE: As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. We've received inquiries about why the percentages in the poll results have not changed much in the last couple of weeks. There's a simple answer. There are so many votes now that even the hundreds of thousands of new votes each day don't have much of an effect on the overall totals.

Another question is about math. As of October 15th, the "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49% and the "Not Sure", 0%. The question is why these numbers don't add up to 100%. Here's the reason: the poll software rounds the results down to the nearest whole number. The "Not Sure" is less than one percent, so it rounds down to zero. The rounding-down is why why the numbers may not total 100%.

With all the questions--and answers--about the percentages and the math, it's easy to take a further step and regard the results as accurate and scientific. Not so! The Palin poll is a measure of voter interest and mobilization in the closing weeks of the campaign. It should not be taken as an accurate barometer of the views of the wider public about Sarah Palin's qualifications.

About The Sarah Palin Poll . NOW | PBS


Here's the old Huffpo story as well about the email hoax

Joel B. Schwartzberg: The Truth Behind the NOW on PBS "Palin Poll"
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it's not stupidity, it's a lack of information. That's ignorance
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Old October 28th, 2008, 02:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just voted no. Who are the 50% of retards that voted yes?

...saying someone is a retard isn't very politically correct of you, is it?.....but, thank heavens I got a chance to tell my entire office and we've all gone there and voted "yes"....now where can we go and vote that Obama isn't qualified for President?....oh, yeah, that would be next week in the voting booth.....
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In all good spirit everyone talking about how dumb she and her supporters are needs to look at themselves before they speak in this case. You've all been taken in by an email hoax that was already covered really widely in the news, and exposed CNN's polls as bullshit.

think for a moment - there is no such thing as an accurate poll where you can vote more than once, and PBS wouldn't broadcast the result of such an poll. They had started a poll and when they realized you could vote more than once they stopped that.

PBS is one of the few places in the US where the real story of anything in the news is actually told. This is NOW- started by Bill Moyers, one of the last real journalists in this country.

Here is the actual story about this.....


I am writing in reference to the now famous "Palin poll" that appeared on the NOW on PBS homepage on September 5. It's no longer on the homepage; in fact, it's no longer a page that the online user can navigate to using menus, but hundreds of thousands of unique visitors are still accessing the poll and voting. How is that possible, and is that a good thing? More on that in a moment, after a side trip through the world of Internet "cookies."

PBS headquarters made the decision on September 22, to implement a cookie registration system on the Palin poll. That system is now part of the poll's inner code, and as of September 23, a user can only vote once per computer. PBS acted because the entire pbs.org site had been experiencing system overload due to massive accessing of the poll.

The poll asks the question, "Do you think that Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?" The user answers clicks to answer "Yes" or "No." From September 5 to September 22, our software allowed online users to vote repeatedly. Sounds bad, right? But we at NOW had serious concerns about user privacy. "Cookies" are small text files placed on the user's system without that person's knowledge. Many computer users regard them as invasive.

Other possible fixes: we could have insisted on voters registering with their email addresses. But people could still vote several times using different email addresses. Or we could insist on a unique identifier - a user's social security number. This was clearly way over the line in violation of user privacy.

What are other media organizations doing? CNN.com does exactly what we had been doing—their polls allow multiple votes. The website of the newspaper USA Today also uses polls, called "USA TODAY Snapshot", but it employs the "cookie" approach to restrict multiple voting.

So, is the Palin poll now "scientific"? Absolutely not. It is still subject to large scale efforts on the left and the right to mobilize people to vote. The poll has become something of a Rorschach test, a tiny political marker in a tightly contested race. Over the past two weeks, the results of the poll see-sawed back and forth from a majority saying "No" to a majority saying, "Yes". At the moment the single-voter system was implemented, it was close to a tie: 50% say Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President, and 48% say no. Those results, in my view, are actually a measure of the mobilization and manipulation efforts by partisans on both sides. Now it will be all about mobilization, and less about manipulation. Blogs on the left and right are circulating viral emails with the exact address of the poll.

Some users have raised questions about our decision to collect opinion about Sarah Palin's qualifications in a poll. For a more complete discussion, take a moment to read the September 19 column of Michael Getler, the PBS Ombudsman.

The Palin poll is no longer in our home page rotation. We've moved on to other polls; each week you'll find one in the bottom right corner of our home page. The current poll asks, "Who do you trust more to fix the nation's economic mess—Barack Obama or John McCain?" It has already attracted a lot of interest.

And let's keep in mind the purpose of these weekly polls. They invite people who might not ordinarily come to our site to participate, and they encourage people to explore the deep journalism that is offered throughout NOW's nearly 10,000 web pages and 1,000 video streams. They don't provide the nuanced interpretation of our investigative journalism and deep content, but do provide a gateway to that content. An example: on Friday, September 19, we aired a one-hour special about women and politics on our broadcast. In the days since the air date, that online video has become the most viewed video on the PBS Election Site. For online users who are deeply interested in the issues raised during this election, the polls are only a starting point. There's a lot more to explore, to read, and to view.

I welcome your thoughts and comments about the Palin poll. Please use this specific Feedback Forum to share your opinions.



UPDATE: As of October 15th, the Palin poll had received over 52 million votes. We've received inquiries about why the percentages in the poll results have not changed much in the last couple of weeks. There's a simple answer. There are so many votes now that even the hundreds of thousands of new votes each day don't have much of an effect on the overall totals.

Another question is about math. As of October 15th, the "Yes" answer had 49%, the "No" answer had 49% and the "Not Sure", 0%. The question is why these numbers don't add up to 100%. Here's the reason: the poll software rounds the results down to the nearest whole number. The "Not Sure" is less than one percent, so it rounds down to zero. The rounding-down is why why the numbers may not total 100%.

With all the questions--and answers--about the percentages and the math, it's easy to take a further step and regard the results as accurate and scientific. Not so! The Palin poll is a measure of voter interest and mobilization in the closing weeks of the campaign. It should not be taken as an accurate barometer of the views of the wider public about Sarah Palin's qualifications.

About The Sarah Palin Poll . NOW | PBS


Here's the old Huffpo story as well about the email hoax

Joel B. Schwartzberg: The Truth Behind the NOW on PBS "Palin Poll"

Do your research, Becky.

Now how did all of you miss this on CNN?
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Old October 28th, 2008, 02:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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...saying someone is a retard isn't very politically correct of you, is it?.....but, thank heavens I got a chance to tell my entire office and we've all gone there and voted "yes"....now where can we go and vote that Obama isn't qualified for President?....oh, yeah, that would be next week in the voting booth.....
Wait...are you serious, are joking? You really think Palin is more qualified than Obama, or are you being facetious?
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....I think they are both unqualified......
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show me a poll with that question!
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