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    What’s happened to the McCain we knew? : Opinion : The Buffalo News

    Douglas Turner
    Updated: 10/20/08 6:41 AM


    WASHINGTON — At a rally weeks ago, John McCain leaned into a microphone and asked in the tone of a dime-store pitchman: “Who is Barack Obama?”

    The Republican presidential candidate could look in a mirror and ask that of himself, particularly after Wednesday night’s debate.

    Where is the Arizona senator, the reformer, the “straight talker” who investigated Republican corruption in the Indian casino mess? Where is the author of campaign finance reform? Where did the friend of the poor immigrant go?

    Do the haters now possess the soul of the onetime defender of tax justice?
    McCain, who waited years to elbow George W. Bush out of the way, appears to have become all of those Republican insiders he once despised:

    • Richard Nixon, the master of dirty tricks who tried to deploy the FBI for partisan purposes.
    • Karl Rove, the exploiter of religious, sexual and reproductive wedge issues.
    • Bush himself, who would follow any calculating jerk’s advice, particularly if it was risky, hard right and unyielding.
    • And finally, the late Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy, R-Wis., the grinning purveyor of the patriotism smear.

    “And you launched your political campaign in Mr. Ayers’ living room,” McCain claimed in the third debate, referring to William Ayers, a onetime terrorist whom Obama repudiated.

    McCain went on, “Obama chooses to associate with a guy who in 2001 said that he wished he had bombed more, and he had a long association with him.”

    McCain’s choice for vice president, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, had already accused Obama of “palling around with a terrorist.”

    Overnight Friday, the McCain forces ramped it up. I got a recorded message from the Republican National Committee at my Virginia home that said in part:

    “Hello, I’m calling for the RNC and John McCain because you ought to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers . . .”

    Obama debunked the smear during the debate. It is the worst I ever heard about that one candidate delivered against another.

    None of McCain’s, Palin’s or the RNC’s charges are true. Nothing can make them so. Yet McCain & Co. keep piling it on, broadening the lie from “palled around,” to “associate with” and now “worked closely.”

    The big lie worked for McCarthy, Nixon, Rove, Bush and Adolf Hitler. And it may work again in this era of chainsaw politics. It’s not funny or forgiveable. Should it disqualify McCain on grounds of character?

    Now that McCain himself has rolled around in the gutter on national television, what will be left of presidential majesty, the demeanor of a chief of state, if he gets elected?

    McCain’s intellect and leadership qualifications were already under scrutiny because of his choice of Palin. He did not know her, and she was not vetted.

    Putting Palin on the ticket was the biggest executive decision McCain ever made in civilian life. McCain did not know her unmarried daughter was pregnant, or that it was a bipartisan legislative body that probed Palin’s abuse of power.

    McCain did not know in July that Palin’s husband, Todd, lolled around the governor’s office behaving like her unelected viceroy. McCain does now.

    Yet on Wednesday, McCain called her “a role model.”

    “She’ll be my partner,” said McCain, 72, who has had two major bouts with skin cancer.

    There are many, including Republicans, who believe that McCain put the nation at risk by linking our fate to Palin. Just why he did it is still unfolding. There are persistent reports that McCain was influenced by William Kristol, now a New York Times columnist, who a decade ago was a leading architect of our invasion of Iraq.

    dturner@buffnews.com

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    My husband, a registered Republican (I know I know...) is, should I say WAS a big McCain supporter from way back. Has always loved his spirit and his take no shit attitude. But even HE is not voting for him because he has no clue what the hell happened to the Senator that he admired for so long. He literally sits there and shakes his head and cannot understand WHO or WHAT got to McCain.

    I am not a McCain supporter, but he is different. The 'spin' and the crap, it got to him.

    He's gonna lose anyway....

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    McCain's gotten desperate. He can't stand the idea of losing, and his true side is coming out.

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    He sold his soul to Palin

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    McCain realizes this is the last chance he has to be elected and is willing to do anything to win.

    God forbid he wins. I wonder what Rove and Co. will expect in return.
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    When faced with his political mortality, McCain blinked and gave his soul to the evil faction within the Republican Party.

    I hope that Faustian deal keeps him warm at night.

    Had the John McCain of eight years ago been running this time, I might have considered voting for him. There is no chance of that happening in light of so many bad decisions on his part in 2008.

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    Mccain sold his soul to Karl Rove.

    Plain & simple.

    Was watching McOld on TV yesterday and he was saying how glad he is that Palin is his VP choice and how qualified she is.

    Yeah right.

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    McCain might have had my vote and thousands of others. Obama is far from a perfect candidate and is a bit of an unknown. Way back,I had him marked as a "hmm-looking good. Let's see how he looks next time" candidate. McCain was better known and from what I had heard him say on Late Night TV shows, pretty neat.
    Then he jumped headfirst into a cess pool. My husband,a die-hard Republican announced-unprompted by me-he was voting for Obama. I thought I heard a choir singing the Hallelujah chorus.
    McCain sold out to the far right. He deserves what he gets. I hope he gets such a total defeat that future candidates never even look their way again.
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    Hmmmm what happened... he got old. I actually wanted to see him run in 2000 & 2004.

    BTW, Karl Rove doesn't purchase souls he just straight up absorbs them like some unsexy succubus. Karl Rove is fucking insane... gosh that man just boggles my mind with his beady little eyes.
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

    Come on, let's have lots of drinks.

    Fuck you all, I'm going viral.

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    He is an entitled frat boy. He thinks it's his birthrate to be president and he fundamentally does not understand why the world doesn't agree with him.

    Anyone noticed the hatchet job being done on GB41? Suddenly they're trying to rehab GWB by saying he has an overbearing. They're taking the plot 'W' and running with it. GWB a victim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kill Me View Post
    Hmmmm what happened... he got old. I actually wanted to see him run in 2000 & 2004.

    BTW, Karl Rove doesn't purchase souls he just straight up absorbs them like some unsexy succubus. Karl Rove is fucking insane... gosh that man just boggles my mind with his beady little eyes.


    Yeah, he's definitely unsexy.

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    ^^ Ugh. He is so fug.
    Who would ever fuck him. ICK.

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    Well, McCain lost my vote once and forever with the Palin pick. I'm an Independent. I was pretty satisfied with voting for Obama at the time, although I still had questions. But once the Palin pick was revealed, I knew that I would vote Obama come hell or high water. I know plenty of Independents just like me, which is unfortunate for McCain - if he had made a wiser choice he might still have some Independent votes coming his way. Shame, he was polling so well with the Independents during the primaries, and thats the group who will probably decide this election.
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    Yeah, that Palin shit is proof that the man has completely lost his shit. I would also like to know what he did to Karl Rove to make him so mad at him.
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

    Come on, let's have lots of drinks.

    Fuck you all, I'm going viral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kill Me View Post
    Yeah, that Palin shit is proof that the man has completely lost his shit. I would also like to know what he did to Karl Rove to make him so mad at him.
    We'll have to wait for the book!
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