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    What This Community Organizer Really Did
    by Erick Erickson
    Posted 09/16/2008 ET

    The Devil and Barry Obama

    Most people have not heard of Saul Alinsky. He was a radical of the first order. His tactics, strategies, and thinking influenced a number of modern leftist politicians, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

    According to the Washington Post, a group of Alinsky’s “disciples hired Barack Obama, a 23-year-old Columbia University graduate, to organize black residents on the South Side, while learning and applying Alinsky's philosophy of street-level democracy.” In 1990, an article Obama had written on community organizing appeared in the book "After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois."

    What frequently is ignored in all of this is Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals. The book is an instruction manual for left wing agitators and breaks down the core components of community organizing. Both Clinton and Obama were students of the book. Clinton wrote a college thesis on the book. Obama lived the book, applying its principles to organizing communities in Illinois.

    At a time when the left’s new slogan is “Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor,” it is helpful to remember that Alinsky dedicated Rules for Radicals to Lucifer -- that is, Satan. Alinsky considered Satan the first radical.

    The opening chapters of Genesis make clear Satan was the first community organizer. He convinced Adam and Eve that the man put them down. To empower them, Satan encouraged them to eat the apple. The results speak for themselves.

    Is ACORN Using Barry’s Lessons?

    During Barack Obama’s stint as a community organizer, he worked for ACORN, the radical group that directly applies Saul Alinsky’s tactics to agitate for a more socialist America.

    In 1996, when Obama received the communist New Party’s endorsement, a local Chicago socialist writing in New Ground, the newsletter of the Chicago Democratic Socialists of America, noted, “As the single 800 pound gorilla in the Chicago New Party, it doesn't leave a lot of room for newcomers to participate except on ACORN's terms. This will make it difficult for the New Party to have a life apart from ACORN.”

    Barack Obama had, at the time, a very tight relationship to ACORN.

    That makes this story from the Detroit Free Press all the more interesting. It turns out ACORN has been turning in “fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications.” The article quotes Kelly Chesney, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State’s Office, saying, “There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications . . . . And it appears to be widespread.”

    This is not the first time ACORN has done this. Back in 2006, ACORN got caught on tape actively engaging on behalf of Claire McCaskill’s campaign in Missouri. With Barack Obama refusing to release his bar application, his college transcripts, and a host of documentation relating to his past, it is a fair question to ask if Obama ever encouraged ACORN to engage in nefarious voter registration schemes.

    It fits with Saul Alinsky’s advice and it fits with ACORN’s pattern and practice.

    What This Community Organizer Really Did - HUMAN EVENTS

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    didn't you already post this? LOL
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    OMG his connection to SATAN is crystal clear!!!

    People who have read Alinsky's book asked Obama to help organize in Chicago's black community? And Obama had read it before too?

    And there was some voter registration issues in Chica-- er, MICHIGAN and MISSOURI? Yep, Obama 'n' the Devil did it!

    Throw him in GITMO for treason!!


    Oh yeah, and get his college transcripts, because that'll prove his guilt!! Why is he so afraid to release his bar application?? HUH?!!!?

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    Isn't this just another way to demonize being a community organizer? Palin Politics at work again.

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    All of you miss the point that the associations of Obama that are shady like this are hurting him with the undecided voters. You can laugh at it, and brush it off, but it will cost him votes in the end if it is not resolved. Or if the same is not done to the other side - like Palin's freaky church.

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    Just for the record, NOWHERE in the piece does it say that the Alinsky guy and Obama had any direct connection. It doesn't even say that the ACORN group had any direct connection. And if Obama was a volunteer for ACORN in Chicago, he wouldn't have any authority or knowledge of what people are doing on an individual level in Michigan and Missouri.

    The author uses a lot of alarmist flourishes to cover up the fact that they do not identify any real connection other than the reading of a book.

    It says people have read his book, therefore, they are dealing with the Devil.

    Come on. That's like saying whoever has read Mein Kampf is a disciple and associate of Adolf Hitler.

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    I read The Satanic Verses, so Jihad on me I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkur View Post
    Just for the record, NOWHERE in the piece does it say that the Alinsky guy and Obama had any direct connection. It doesn't even say that the ACORN group had any direct connection. And if Obama was a volunteer for ACORN in Chicago, he wouldn't have any authority or knowledge of what people are doing on an individual level in Michigan and Missouri.

    The author uses a lot of alarmist flourishes to cover up the fact that they do not identify any real connection other than the reading of a book.

    It says people have read his book, therefore, they are dealing with the Devil.

    Come on. That's like saying whoever has read Mein Kampf is a disciple and associate of Adolf Hitler.
    All of what you say is true and is exactly what needs to be pointed out when this type of stuff is brought up.

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    Thanks, FriendOrFoe, I reposted it on a comment there, whatever good it may do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkur View Post
    OMG his connection to SATAN is crystal clear!!!

    People who have read Alinsky's book asked Obama to help organize in Chicago's black community? And Obama had read it before too?

    And there was some voter registration issues in Chica-- er, MICHIGAN and MISSOURI? Yep, Obama 'n' the Devil did it!

    Throw him in GITMO for treason!!


    Oh yeah, and get his college transcripts, because that'll prove his guilt!! Why is he so afraid to release his bar application?? HUH?!!!?
    MUSLIM!!!!!!!11111

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    This is so meaningless ...

    Using the word "radical" is just a way of marginalizing people who actually care about things other than themselves - such as the environment, other organisms, and other humans - and who know that the systems in place in our society are destined to fail for all but the very rich and powerful.

    And the funny part about all of this is that neither Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton are/were radical at all!

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    Are we being invaded by Repug Right Wing propagandists? Seems to me
    most of these "proof against Obama" posts are made by relative newcomers,
    or at least otherwise "shy" members.
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    Hillary called a radical....sometimes she's called a neo-con


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    Smears Contradicted: Obama Organizing Work Was Not With ACORN
    October 5, 2008 09:56 PM




    On Friday, the Huffington Post debunked a series of charges made by conservative activists linking Sen. Barack Obama to the community organizing group ACORN. Since then, two additional charges have been flatly contradicted.

    Appearing on Fox News last week, conservative media watcher Seton Motley described the ties between Obama and ACORN as follows:
    "[Obama] was a lawyer for the organization. He then served his years as a trainer of activists for the organization. And when he was named chairman of the board by terrorist William Ayers to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, they funneled money to, amongst many other places, ACORN. So there is three stages of relationship with them."
    As the Huffington Post noted on Friday, the first accusation -- that Obama was a lawyer for ACORN -- is deceptively vague. In fact, Obama at one time represented a large coalition of groups that happened to include ACORN, as well as the U.S. Department of Justice and a host of other entities. The legal work was in support of an uncontroversial "Motor Voter" law.

    The second charge -- that Obama "served his years as a trainer of activists" for ACORN -- has now also been contradicted. According to writer Matthew Vadum, whom Motley has cited, "in 1992, Obama took time off from his new job at Davis Miner to direct ACORN's voter mobilization arm, Project Vote, a hugely successful voter registration campaign... Time magazine described Project Vote in 2004 as 'a nonpartisan arm of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).'

    In fact, an Obama campaign spokesman told the Huffington Post that Project Vote was not directly associated with ACORN until 1994, two years after Obama organized for the group. The campaign provided a statement from the Project Vote's executive director during the period of Obama's involvement. "[i]t wasn't until after Mr. Obama's tenure had ended that it began to conduct projects more frequently with ACORN than with other community-based organizations," Sanford A Newman wrote to a letter to the Wall Street Journal.

    Bertha Lewis, a senior organizer for ACORN, confirmed on Monday: "Project Vote started registering voters in 1992. ACORN and Project Vote really began to work more closely together in 1994."

    The Obama campaign notes that the only on-record connection between Project Vote and ACORN dating from 1992 is the fact that ACORN's Executive Director, Steve Kest, was part of a forty-member national Project Vote advisory board. Other members of that panel Included Rep. John Lewis, Former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy, Former Rep. William H. Gray (D-PA), and the national presidents of the NEA, NOW, AFSCME, SEIU, UAW, IAFF, and the United Steelworkers.

    A third claim made by Motley on Fox -- that Obama was appointed to the Annenberg Challenge "by terrorist William Ayers" -- appears to have been exposed as a smear by a Saturday report on Obama and Ayers published by the New York Times:
    In March 1995, Mr. Obama became chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago. Some bloggers have recently speculated that Mr. Ayers had engineered that post for him.
    In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama's appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year. At a lunch with two other foundation heads, Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation and Adele Simmons of the MacArthur Foundation, Ms. Leff suggested that Mr. Obama would make a good board chairman, she said in an interview. Mr. Ayers was not present and had not suggested Mr. Obama, she said.
    Over the weekend, Motley responded to the Huffington Post's original reporting, explaining that his decision not to respond to the Obama campaign's rebuttals stemmed from a concern over protecting his group's 501(c)3 non-profit status.

    As ConWebWatch has noted, this excuse does not hold water. Non-profit groups like Motley's are forbidden from conducting specific electioneering activities; Motley is free to respond to inquiries from reporters about the factual accuracy of his statements.

    In the meantime, several questions still remain about the broad, sweeping claims made by Motley on his Friday Fox News appearance. While it is easy to get lost in the weeds of what projects ACORN was involved with at which time -- even Vadum says "part of the confusion about ACORN stems from the fact that ACORN has grown into a multi-headed hydra over the years" -- it's far from clear that Motley was correct to say: "He [Obama] then served his years as a trainer of activists for the organization." No one has yet to claim that Obama spent any other time outside of 1992 on Project Vote. And of course, there is the question over when Project Vote became "part and parcel" of ACORN as Vadum asserts. If he cannot provide evidence that the two organizations' collaboration was cemented in 1992, then another leg of Motley's claim will have been disproved.
    Smears Contradicted: Obama Organizing Work Was Not With ACORN
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