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    Thumbs up Poll: Barack Obama/Joe Biden take eight-point lead

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    Poll: Obama/Biden Take Eight-Point Lead, Democratic Ticket Gets Boost After Convention, CBS News Poll Finds - CBS News

    (CBS) Democratic nominee Barack Obama's lead over Republican John McCain has grown after the Democratic convention, which 71 percent of Americans say they watched. Obama and his running mate Joe Biden now lead McCain and Sarah Palin 48 percent to 40 percent, according to the latest CBS News poll.

    This is the first CBS News poll to include the vice presidential candidates in the horserace question.

    The eight-point lead for the Democratic ticket is up from Obama’s three-point lead before the convention. But there are still a significant number of voters who have yet to firmly make up their minds.

    Before the Democratic convention, McCain enjoyed a 12-point advantage with independent voters, but now Obama leads among this group 43 percent to 37 percent. Obama's lead among women has also grown to 14 points (50 percent to 36 percent), and the Democrat maintained the lead he had before the convention among voters who supported Senator Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries.

    The poll shows an increase in the number of Obama voters who are enthusiastic about him. Sixty-seven percent of Obama voters say they enthusiastically support him, which is up from 48 percent who said so before the convention. About a quarter of McCain’s backers are enthusiastic about him--unchanged from before the Democratic convention.

    Sixty-three percent of registered voters say Obama understands their needs and problems, while just 41 percent say that about McCain. And after the Democratic convention, 58 percent of voters say Obama is "tough enough," which is up from 48 percent in early August.

    Though Obama has seen his lead grow, there are still areas where he has room to improve. The latest CBS News poll shows no change in the percentage of registered voters who say Obama has prepared himself well enough for the job-- a sentiment in which McCain has held a large advantage. But fewer voters now say Obama is not prepared for the job of President than before the convention.

    Although 50 percent of voters now say that Obama has made it clear what he would do as president (up from 41 percent), 44 percent still say the Democratic nominee has not made it clear.

    (CBS) CBS News started polling the evening after McCain named Sarah Palin as his running mate. Twenty-eight percent of voters now say the vice-presidential candidates will matter in how they vote, which is up from the 25 percent who said so before Biden and Palin were named to their respective tickets.

    Many people still have a lot to learn about the two VP candidates.

    Views of Joe Biden run favorable by 2-to-1, with about half still undecided.

    Views of Sarah Palin run favorable by 2-to-1 but among fewer people, since two-thirds still don’t know enough about her to give an opinion.

    Voters’ reaction to the selection of a woman as vice-presidential nominee is not much different than it was nearly 25 years ago, when Walter Mondale chose Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate. A quarter of voters are excited about it, and 60 percent think it’s all right. Just 11 percent think it’s a bad idea.

    But few voters say that having Palin on the Republican ticket will change their vote much. Just 13 percent say they are more likely to vote for McCain as a result of having Palin on the ticket, while about as many (11 percent) say they are less likely to do so. Seventy-two percent say it won’t make a difference in their vote.

    Interestingly, Palin’s selection may have the greatest effect on men. Seventeen percent of men say they are more likely to vote for McCain as a result, while just 10 percent of women say the same. Eighteen percent of Republicans say they are are more likely to vote for McCain.

    Meanwhile, Obama's selection of Senator Joe Biden as his running mate also affects few voters. But in those cases where it does matter, Biden’s presence has a greater net positive impact than Palin’s. Fifteen percent are more likely to vote for Obama as a result of the Biden pick, while just four percent are less likely to do so. One in five independents say the choice of Biden will make them more likely to vote for Obama.

    Michelle Obama has boosted her favorable ratings considerably with the convention with 41 percent of voters now having a favorable opinion of the potential first lady (up from 28 percent in August). Hillary Clinton's favorable ratings are now the highest she has enjoyed in about a decade with 52 percent of registered voters having a favorable opinion of her.

    This year, it is particularly challenging to measure any “bounce” Obama might have received as a result of his convention, due to the compressed timeframe of the conventions and the emergence of Hurricane Gustav as a major news story. That said, Obama appears to have received a three-point increase in support, which is similar to the increase George W. Bush received in 2004 after his convention. John Kerry received no bounce from his convention in 2004.

    This poll was conducted among a random sample of 875 adults nationwide, including 781 registered voters, interviewed by telephone August 29-31, 2008. Phone numbers were dialed from RDD samples of both standard land-lines and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points; for registered voters the sampling error could be plus or minus four percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.

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    But few voters say that having Palin on the Republican ticket will change their vote much. Just 13 percent say they are more likely to vote for McCain as a result of having Palin on the ticket, while about as many (11 percent) say they are less likely to do so. Seventy-two percent say it won’t make a difference in their vote.
    Looks like most women don't care for her either!

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    I think Obama's speech coupled with McCain's senior moment pick of Palin helped give Obama/Biden that edge. So, the Palin pick backfired on McCain, in more ways than one.

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    I dunno, you know how 'reliable' these polls are. 8 points ain't much, and there's a reason why they called mccain the 'comeback kid' earlier this year.

    Much more to go before election, anything can happen I'm afraid.

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    ^Since they can't poll those who only have cell phones (no land lines), some have speculated that Obama may have an unseen lead since he does well with young voters, many of whom only have/use cell phones.

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    ^^Yes, but there is also the issue of people giving false positives (saying they'll vote for Obama to appeal to the person doing the survey when in actuality they won't).... I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celeb_2006 View Post
    I dunno, you know how 'reliable' these polls are. 8 points ain't much, and there's a reason why they called mccain the 'comeback kid' earlier this year.

    Much more to go before election, anything can happen I'm afraid.
    Yeah, I keep expecting the other shoe to drop, so I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Obama winning. Although it's hard not to get hopeful with Palin leaking...I mean, exploding in McCain's face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Yeah, I keep expecting the other shoe to drop, so I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Obama winning. Although it's hard not to get hopeful with Palin leaking...I mean, exploding in McCain's face.

    Yep- shes very good at leaking shit
    Her amniotic fluid trail from Texas to Alaska is really a metaphor of the shit that follows her around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycgirly101 View Post
    ^^Yes, but there is also the issue of people giving false positives (saying they'll vote for Obama to appeal to the person doing the survey when in actuality they won't).... I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
    No, I don't think anyone's first instinct is to lie, even the assholes. A lot of people are very strong about this election and the candidates, I can't imagine someone making false opinions for the sake of misleading people.

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    Once again, I think Mccain picked this chick because he thinks women will feel more inclined for vote for him.

    Um, WRONG.

    There is no way in FUCK's sake I'd vote for someone who thinks governments have the right to dictate what I can and cannot do with my body.

    No, gracias, amigo!

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    Are we forgetting that McLame, who is 72 years old with one foot in the grave, just picked an unexperienced, ill advised, vice presidential running mate...does no one else see that if McLame is elected that Sarah Palin will be president in a year or less?

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    ^^ Who he only met ONCE before. WTF? And it kills me that he based his entire campaign about Obama being SO horribly inexperienced. WTF, chuck?!
    Pot...kettle!

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    yes, but if you point out these contradictions then you're part of the evil LIBRUL MEDIA AGENDA
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bychance View Post
    No, I don't think anyone's first instinct is to lie, even the assholes. A lot of people are very strong about this election and the candidates, I can't imagine someone making false opinions for the sake of misleading people.
    Well most people wouldn't lie but you'd be surprised- some do to appear more progressive or open-minded. Not to mention these polls change every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmmdee View Post
    Who he only met ONCE before. WTF? And it kills me that he based his entire campaign about Obama being SO horribly inexperienced. WTF, chuck?!
    Pot...kettle!
    I still can't get over that McCain picked Palin as his running mate. The man clearly doesn't know Palin from a hole in the ground. Choosing her is the lowest form of political pandering I've witnessed. McCain has undercut his own campaign with choosing Palin and with her family's laundry being aired, it's only going to get worse.

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