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    Question The Clinton and Obama camps are a'fussin and a'feudin about the convention

    The Politico is out today with the kind of story Democrats had hoped to avoid as the convention begins here in Denver -- a report of continued fighting between representatives of Barack Obama and the Clintons.

    "One flashpoint is the assigned speech topic for former president Bill Clinton, who is scheduled to speak Wednesday night, when the convention theme is 'Securing America's Future.' ... The former president is disappointed, associates said, because he is eager to speak about the economy and more broadly about Democratic ideas," Politico's John F. Harris and Mike Allen report. "This is an especially sore point for Bill Clinton, people close to him say, because among many grievances he has about the campaign Obama waged against his wife is a belief that the candidate poor-mouthed the political and policy successes of his two terms."

    Harris and Allen also report that there's some unhappiness from the Obama side too, that the Obama camp is complaining that Hillary Clinton's "team continues to act like she and Bill Clinton hold leverage... One senior Obama supporter said the Clinton associates negotiating on her behalf act like 'Japanese soldiers in the South Pacific still fighting after the war is over.'"

    The two teams have issued a joint statement denying that there's tension between them. It reads:


    We understand that some in the news media are more interested in reporting the rumor of controversy than the fact of unity. The fact is that our teams are working closely to ensure a successful convention and will continue to do so. Senator and President Clinton fully support the Obama/Biden ticket and look forward to addressing the convention and the nation on the urgency of victory this Fall. Anyone saying anything else doesn't know what they're talking about. Period.

    Thus far, though, political reporters are skeptical about this. In a blog post, Time's Karen Tumulty wrote, "on this one, my hunch is Politico is right. I recall that in 2000, Gore aides told me they had no more delicate convention task than telling the Clintons that they wanted them to make an appearance and leave."

    And the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder writes, "[S]ources back up the Politico to a point: things are getting a little hairy as the reality of the convention sets in. Obama aides acknowledge that there has been some recent bumps on the road but insist that reports of boiled over anger are way overplayed." He also adds another interesting tidbit: "Another point of tension, sources say, is that the Obama campaign is aware that Mark Penn is advising Bill Clinton on the speech. Obama's campaign doesn't like Mark Penn."

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    Jeez, I just wish this DNC were over with and get on to the real meat of the campaign. My fucking commute was outrageous this morning.
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    I can not WAIT to hear Bill Clinton's speech. I hope he shows up tipsy and cuts loose. Damn that would be great!

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    Unfortunately, Obama needs the Clintons at the convention, because they do know how to speak to the Democratic base. But their sore loser/sense of entitlement attitudes are getting to be a pain.

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    No, No, NO, Obama needs no one. You fucking hate the Clintons. Why would you want them there for any reason. Oh right, The fact that Bill Clinton is the only democrat elected president (2X) in the last 28 years...oh yeah that.

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    Yes, and a reasonably fine job he did if it. Unfortunately, it's not 1996 anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    No, No, NO, Obama needs no one. You fucking hate the Clintons. Why would you want them there for any reason. Oh right, The fact that Bill Clinton is the only democrat elected president (2X) in the last 28 years...oh yeah that.
    Yeah, I hate the Clintons so much that I voted for Bill Clinton TWICE.

    Scooter, either vote for McCain or don't vote at all, but either way change the record already. It's getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    Unfortunately, Obama needs the Clintons at the convention, because they do know how to speak to the Democratic base. But their sore loser/sense of entitlement attitudes are getting to be a pain.
    I've never met a politician yet that didn't have a sense of entitlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogodancer View Post
    I've never met a politician yet that didn't have a sense of entitlement.
    Yeah, but most politicians don't believe that they should be president because a family member was like Hillary and George W. Bush.

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