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    McCain ad says Obama snubbed Clinton in VP pick
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    John McCain's campaign said Sunday that rival Barack Obama snubbed Hillary Rodham Clinton as a running mate because of her criticism of the Democratic presidential candidate, a claim the Obama campaign immediately dismissed.
    A new McCain ad, the second since Obama revealed his choice of fellow Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware on Saturday, challenges Obama's motives in passing over his former top rival and choosing Biden, who dropped out of the presidential contest after a poor showing in Iowa, the first contest. Chief Obama strategist David Axelrod insisted Biden was "a better fit."
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Biden offered "the full package." She said he "has challenged the status quo. And he's even criticized Senator Obama, so it's a tribute to Senator Obama that he's not just choosing a yes man but a person who will speak what he believes."
    Fresh from announcing his running mate, Obama resumed pre-convention campaigning with a scheduled stop in Wisconsin in the run-up to accepting the Democratic nomination for president. He was also campaigning in Iowa, Missouri and Montana before the nomination becomes his Thursday in Denver.
    Also Sunday, the party's credentials committee was poised to restore full voting rights at the convention to delegates from Florida and Michigan, initially stripped of all delegates for holding their primaries too early. With his nomination assured, Obama sought a show of unity to shore up support in those two important states.
    Since Biden's selection, the McCain campaign has come out with two campaign ads addressing the Democratic candidate's choice.
    The latest, released by the campaign early Sunday, features clips of Clinton during the primary battle saying critical things about Obama, including, "Senator Obama's campaign has become increasingly negative."
    A voiceover announcer says, "She won millions of votes but isn't on the ticket. Why? For speaking the truth."
    Responding to the ad, Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand said the New York senator's "support of Barack Obama is clear. She has said repeatedly that Barack Obama and she share a commitment to changing the direction of the country, getting us out of Iraq and expanding access to health care. John McCain doesn't. It's interesting how those remarks didn't make it into his ad."
    Axelrod, the Obama strategist, said Obama "has a high regard for Senator Clinton. She's going to be an important voice in this campaign, she's going to be an important voice in moving this country forward in the next administration. But he felt Senator Biden would be the best fit for him at this time."
    In addition to Biden's long resume, including his chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "he's an independent guy who will tell the president what he needs to know even if he doesn't want to hear it," Axelrod said.
    Caroline Kennedy, a member of Obama's search team, said, "Joe Biden was absolutely the best" of the choices under review. She declined to say whether Clinton was screened, but called her a "tremendous groundbreaking figure. Everyone admires her greatly. He is going to need her in the Senate."
    Two potential swing-state governors — Virginia's Tim Kaine and Colorado's Bill Ritter — welcomed Biden's selection.
    Kaine, who had been on Obama's short list for a running mate, said Obama and Biden were "a good team personality-wise. They complement each other well. I think you're going to see them really enjoying being out on the trail together."
    Ritter said Obama and Biden together would help the ticket, particularly with independent voters in the West.
    Meanwhile, reflecting Biden's new status, the Delaware delegation on Sunday got a seating upgrade on the convention floor, closer to the podium and close to the Illinois delegation.
    Biden returned to Delaware after their first joint appearance Saturday in Springfield, Ill., where Obama had begun his campaign in February 2007. Obama headed to Eau Claire, Wis., a city of 65,000 about 85 miles east of St. Paul, Minn., site of the Republican convention next month. He was expected to discuss ways to stimulate the economy and help middle-class families.

    Biden attended church near his home in Greenville, Del. He left the service without commenting to reporters. Obama attended morning services at First Lutheran Church in Eau Claire.
    McCain, who had no public schedule Sunday, told CBS News that Biden was a "wise selection" who will be formidable. But the Arizona senator was critical of the Obama-Biden ticket on foreign policy, citing disagreements with Biden's decision to vote against the first Gulf War as well as his position that Iraq should be divided "into three different countries."
    McCain, who has not announced his running mate, holds a 2-1 lead over Obama as more knowledgeable on world affairs and as better suited to be commander in chief, according to an ABC News-Washington Post poll released Sunday. The same poll, which gave Obama a slight 49 percent to 43 percent lead overall, found that three-fourths said the addition of Biden would make no difference in their vote, while the remainder were evenly split on whether it would make them more or less likely to vote for Obama.
    Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, mentioned often as a potential No. 2 to McCain, said Sunday that Obama's choice of Biden had undermined one of the key messages of Obama's campaign, that he is an agent of change.
    "Now you pick someone who is a consummate Washington insider, who was elected to the U.S. Senate when Barack Obama and I were 12 years old," Pawlenty said in a conference call with reporters. "Where's the change?" Pawlenty and Obama are both 47, Biden is 65, McCain is 71.
    Meanwhile, Indiana Gov. Evan Bayh, who also had been on Obama's short list, said he called Biden on Saturday to congratulate him. "I think he is going to be great," he said.
    As to any lingering hard feelings between the Obama and Clinton camps, Bayh, who had actively supported Clinton, said: "The convention will give us an opportunity to reach out to those people. Hillary is going to be 100 percent for him."
    Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan told about 200 demonstrators Sunday in Denver that not much has changed since her monthlong war protest outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, in 2005.
    "Now three years later, our country is still mired in the Middle East. We're talking about more war, more cold war, and Russia and Georgia, and invading Iran and Pakistan," she said.
    The demonstrators gathered outside the Colorado state Capitol before marching through downtown Denver to the Pepsi Center, where the Democratic National Convention starts on Monday. It's the first of at least five protests planned this week by the group Recreate 68. Axelrod spoke on ABC's "This Week," Kaine and Ritter appeared on "Fox News Sunday," Pelosi and Kennedy on NBC's "Meet the Press" and Bayh on CNN's "Late Edition."
    McCain's already trying to reach out to some of those die-hard Clinton supporters who really do believe she got snubbed.

    I think some Clinton supporters think that since Hillary came in second that she should automatically be VP, but that's not how the process works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcap72 View Post
    McCain's already trying to reach out to some of those die-hard Clinton supporters who really do believe she got snubbed.

    I think some Clinton supporters think that since Hillary came in second that she should automatically be VP, but that's not how the process works.
    No that is not how the system works, but OB seems to contradict his own campaign with his choice of running mate. He couldn't pick Hillary because she was "old" Washington, yet he picks someone else who is exactly the same thing. He couldn't pick Hillary because the Republicans would use her own words against her when she spoke out against OB, yet Biden has done that also.

    The other side is probably overjoyed with this choice and will be showing those exact things in upcoming ads.

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    If McCain is so upset over this, HE should choose Hillary as HIS vice-president!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    No that is not how the system works, but OB seems to contradict his own campaign with his choice of running mate. He couldn't pick Hillary because she was "old" Washington, yet he picks someone else who is exactly the same thing. He couldn't pick Hillary because the Republicans would use her own words against her when she spoke out against OB, yet Biden has done that also.

    The other side is probably overjoyed with this choice and will be showing those exact things in upcoming ads.
    Obama didn't pick Hillary because 1) he can't trust her, 2) she has the same weakness on foreign policy that he does. (And traveling the world as First Lady and being under imaginary gunfire doesn't count as foreign policy experience.) and 3) Hillary comes with too much baggage and Biden doesn't.

    And Biden's previous attacks on Obama are coming back to bite him in the ass just like Hillary's would've, but since he brings much more to the table than Hillary ever could, it's worth the risk.

    And Biden doesn't contradict Obama's message of change, because one key point he wanted his administration to do was to reach across the aisle more and work with Republicans instead of against them, and Biden has a long history of doing that. Not to mention, Biden has a long history of fighting for the working class and middle class families, which is also part of Obama's message of change.

    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    If McCain is so upset over this, HE should choose Hillary as HIS vice-president!
    Exactly. And when he doesn't, then he's going to come off as a hypocrite for saying Obama snubbed her.

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    True, if he isn't going to take her on to be his VP, then this is noting but BS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    If McCain is so upset over this, HE should choose Hillary as HIS vice-president!
    As if she would accept! That's political suicide!

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    eh, put up or shut up
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    Friendorfoe you seem intent on making trouble where there is none. Obama never said he wouldn't choose Hilliary because she was "old Washington" or because they would use her own words against. As Kingcap said he didn't choose her because he can't trust her!
    If I can't be a good example, then let me be a horrible warning.

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    divide and conquer

    Rush's 'Operation Chaos' is not yet over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito View Post
    divide and conquer

    Rush's 'Operation Chaos' is not yet over
    And what does that assfuckery solve. This isn't a game, this is about the future of America, a better economy, not some game. I think anyone who is stupid enough to pay attention to a pill popping hypocrite deserves to live miserably, have their house foreclosed on, and children drafted! This isn't a divide and conquer battle that repukes will win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nana55 View Post
    Friendorfoe you seem intent on making trouble where there is none. Obama never said he wouldn't choose Hilliary because she was "old Washington" or because they would use her own words against. As Kingcap said he didn't choose her because he can't trust her!
    No, but many advisors have said those are the reasons it would be political suicide to choose her.

    Why is it that whenever someone questions anything about Obama, they are just trying to make trouble? If he becomes president, are we suppose to not question anything he does?

    Sorry, I will continue to question whomever I want and whatever decisions they make that I don't agree with.

    On the other hand, many of you seem to refuse to question anything and just turn a blind eye to anything that doesn't fit into the "perfect" picture you have in your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    No, but many advisors have said those are the reasons it would be political suicide to choose her.

    Why is it that whenever someone questions anything about Obama, they are just trying to make trouble? If he becomes president, are we suppose to not question anything he does?

    Sorry, I will continue to question whomever I want and whatever decisions they make that I don't agree with.

    On the other hand, many of you seem to refuse to question anything and just turn a blind eye to anything that doesn't fit into the "perfect" picture you have in your mind.
    I don't have questions because I did my research back in December 07 and January 08, when I decided to stop supporting Hillary..I left a long reply to you about it in another thread..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    I don't have questions because I did my research back in December 07 and January 08, when I decided to stop supporting Hillary..I left a long reply to you about it in another thread..
    I wasn't talking to you, but answering someone else's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    No, but many advisors have said those are the reasons it would be political suicide to choose her.

    Why is it that whenever someone questions anything about Obama, they are just trying to make trouble? If he becomes president, are we suppose to not question anything he does?

    Sorry, I will continue to question whomever I want and whatever decisions they make that I don't agree with.

    On the other hand, many of you seem to refuse to question anything and just turn a blind eye to anything that doesn't fit into the "perfect" picture you have in your mind.
    Nobody here has a 'perfect' image of Obama, so don't even try that trick. Obama has his flaws, just like everybody else. But the problem is YOU aren't really questioning Obama, but constantly trying to find ways to rip him while constantly trying to place Hillary-I-Am-Woman-Hear-Me-Roar-Clinton up on a pedestal.

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    wouldn't it be "I am Hillary, give me the presidency because I'm a woman and if you don't you're all sexist" Clinton?
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