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    Talking John McCain's housing gaffe doesn't matter because - are you ready? - he was a POW

    Thank you, I predicted it. It only took the McCain campaign three hours, or so, to invoke John McCain's former POW status to defend him from attacks regarding his gaffe yesterday in which he couldn't remember how many houses he owns. You see, the McCain campaign explained to the Washington Post today, McCain was a POW. It's not entirely clear why that's relevant to a discussion of McCain owning 7 or 8 or 9 homes, and not being able to remember exactly how many homes he owns, but it apparently doesn't matter. Because McCain was a POW. Did everybody get that?

    Ben Smith at Politico has more, including a warning that McCain may be overusing the POW card to his detrminent:


    McCain aides referred back to McCain's time as a prisoner of war in Vietnam in defending him from the mockery over his houses.

    This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years -- in prison," says spokesman Rogers.



    It does seem like they're flirting with Giuliani/9/11 territory here, in which at subject that seems utterly immune to humor, used as a first resort, suddenly becomes a running joke among your political enemies and your late night comic friends.

    It was McCain himself who warned John Kerry about overusing the "hero" thing.


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    Well, he said he will bring back the draft if elected... Then, he can't remember how many houses he owns. But it's alright because he was a POW! This SOB is way off!
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    I'm not surprised that McCain is playing up the POW angle, because that's all he has going for him. I love how the Republicans act like McCain being a POW is sacred, but Kerry's military service meant nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    Well, he said he will bring back the draft if elected... Then, he can't remember how many houses he owns. But it's alright because he was a POW! This SOB is way off!
    When did he say that?

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    So, either McInsane's trophy wife is so rich he can't count how many houses she's bought with her beer money, or he's old and senile. Either way, he's butt-ugly.

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    The fucker has lost his marbles, or his meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycgirly101 View Post
    When did he say that?
    At a Town hall on Wednesday, a woman asked him something along the lines of... 'how did he expect to go to the depths of hell to capture Bin Laden with the depleted armed forces, without a draft,' and he agreed with her!
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    What does it matter how many houses he owns?

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    It doesn't matter how many houses he owns, (or his wife owns) it matters that he doesn't know how many he owns.
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    ^ Why? How does that in any way, shape or form hurt the American public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetie View Post
    What does it matter how many houses he owns?

    It only matters to people that are jealous. This is America, and you can own whatever you can afford- we're capitalists, and proud of it

    How many houses did John Kerry have? The Kennnedy's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    Well, he said he will bring back the draft if elected...
    This is untrue. Just like everyone likes to jump on the right when they only use part of an Obama comment, the left is using that technique here.

    20 Aug 2008 09:01 pm

    Liberals are having a conniption over Sen. John McCain's purported endorsement of a draft today.

    In Las Crucas, New Mexico, a woman asked McCain about the "horrible conditions" that veterans often see when return from combat. Here's the last few sentences:


    My son is an officer in the Air Force, I'm a vet., and I was raised in a military family. And I think it's a sorry state of affairs. When we have illegal aliens; having a medic-aid card that can access specialists, top physicians, the best of medical, and our vets can't even get to a doctor. And these are the people that we tied yellow ribbons for and Bush patted on the back. If we don't re-enact the draft, I don't think we'll have anyone to chase Bin Laden to the gates of Hell.
    His critics focus on the first sentence:


    SEN JOHN MCCAIN: Ma'am let me say that I don't disagree with anything you have said, and thank you.
    So he agrees that unless there's a draft, the war on terror can't be won?

    Not exactly. I've heard McCain tell numerous audiences that he opposes a new draft. As the context makes clear, McCain is focusing on the meat of the question and not the woman's exclamation at the end. Unless you think McCain privately favors the draft and let the cat out of the bag, you're going to have reach to conclude that he's radically changed his mind here.

    McCain: I'm grateful for all of our veterans. I carry with me quite often a quote from General George Washington in 1789. He said, "The willingness with which young Americans will serve their country in future wars is directly related to the treatment of those who have previously served and sacrificed in conflict." He was right in 1789 and he's right today.
    All too often our veterans do not receive the care that they have earned, and the scandal of Walter Reed is a blot on the honor of the United States of America and we can never let it happen again.
    Now here's what.. I'll make this as short as possible, our veterans have earned our highest priority. And yet we know that there is also routine health care needs that veterans have that in my view, they should not have to go to the VA to receive. OK?
    We have tragically and unfortunately in this war a dramatic...well, we're going to have a lot of PTSD. We also have severe combat injuries. Because thank God, we're able to get the wounded from the battle field to medical treatment more quickly than any time in history. That puts an increased burden on our medical, military medical care, as well as our VA.
    So, you mentioned Albuquerque VA I believe. I could take you to Albuquerque VA or the Phoenix VA quite often and the waiting room is crowded, the veterans are standing in line to stand in line to get an appointment to get an appointment. That's not the fault of the people that work there. The people that work there are some of the finest in the World. It's just that they're overloaded.
    So we have to focus our attention, expand our capability to treat PTSD, combat related injuries, brain injuries, etc. that we're best at. And for a veteran with a routine health care need, why shouldn't we give that veteran a card and take it to the health care provider; or the doctor of their choice and get the routine health care that they need.
    That's what...and that way we could utilize the VA and the medical, the military medical, system to it's greatest affect. And also relieve this burden. I don't ever again want to have a veteran stand in line to stand in line to get an appointment to get an appointment. That's not...that's just not acceptable in America. And again, I do praise the people that work there. They're some of the most dedicated people I've ever known in my life. The problem is that there's just not enough of them.
    Watch the video here.

    Marc Ambinder (August 20, 2008) - Does McCain Favor a Draft? Nope.
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    I have little problem with him having multiple houses.. hell, I don't even really give a shit if he's too senile to remember how many he even owns... but the fact that his team played the POW card is low low low.. grasping at straws here and it's getting pretty pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stylejunkiex View Post
    I have little problem with him having multiple houses.. hell, I don't even really give a shit if he's too senile to remember how many he even owns... but the fact that his team played the POW card is low low low.. grasping at straws here and it's getting pretty pathetic.

    I agree....I'm tired of the POW card, and the race card.

    I want to scream at these two: Man up you pussies, stop this nonsense and get to the substance.
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