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    'US planning strike against Iran'
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    The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.

    The German newspaper Der Tagesspiegel collected various reports from the German media indicating that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are examining the prospects of such a strike.

    According to the report, CIA Director Porter Goss, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.

    The German news agency DDP also noted that countries neighboring Iran, such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, and Pakistan were also updated regarding the supposed plan. American sources sent to those countries apparently mentioned an aerial attack as a possibility, but did not provide a time frame for the operation.

    Although Der Spiegel could not say that these plans were concrete, they did note that according to a January 2005 New Yorker report American forces had entered Iran in 2005 in order to mark possible targets for an aerial assault.

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    This has been hinted at for awhile now. Syria, also. I just don't get how they can do it, with the troops already stretched to the breaking point. Scary shit indeed.
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    If the troops in Iraq are stretched too thin, and I believe
    they are, then they are overdue for a Tet-offensive-sized strike.

    (The Tet offensive was the battle in 1968 which contributed
    to the shift in public opinion against maintaining the occupation
    of Vietnam. In one weekend, even though 58,000 Vietnamese
    soldiers were killed*, over 10,000 US soldiers died.)


    I shall have to do more reading on Iran, but I do believe
    that in 1953, the US gov't performed "regime change" in Tehran,
    installing the Shah, whose human-rights relationship with his
    people was allegedly atrocious. Some 26 years later, this
    policy came back to bite the State Dept. in the ass when
    the Hostage Crisis began.

    (NB. I was going to mention the 9000-dead-in-Iraq rumor,
    but certain bloggers are starting to back away from it.
    It would be too easily verifiable, according to this
    woman, who meticulously logs the dead in Iraq.

    (Make no mistake -- I believe CNN et al would have stayed
    quiet about 9,000 dead GIs in Iraq, but the internet media
    would not.)

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    According to the report, CIA Director Porter Goss, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.
    This is how the Turkish gov't sidesteps its own history of
    attempted atrocity.

    Those of us who've ever spoken with Armenians know that they have
    long-standing grievances against the Turks for an attempted genocide
    in or about 1915. Apparently there were more than 1,000,000 people
    killed in less than a year.

    The Armenians have lobbied the US gov't to officially recognize the
    slaughter, but that would mean insulting Turkey, and Turkey gains
    favor with the US by providing its airbases for US military planes
    and personnel. Turkey is a key ally in the region and is ideally
    located, strategically, to bomb places like Iraq and Syria.

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    Iran had elected a president, which pissed off the US since said leader was leaning towards socialism. So the CIA overthrew him and put in the puppet Shah, then backed him for years. This lead to lots of pissed off people who eventually backed the Ayatollah, simply to get the nutty Shah out. Although what the Ayatollah was extolling was an extreme theological government, to many it was preferable to not really the western influences in society but the western INFLUENCE on the society, ie. US controlled Shah. We reap what we sow. And sorry if that's not a very thorough explanation...I'll dig up a proper explanation later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ourmaninBusan
    This is how the Turkish gov't sidesteps its own history of
    attempted atrocity.

    Those of us who've ever spoken with Armenians know that they have
    long-standing grievances against the Turks for an attempted genocide
    in or about 1915. Apparently there were more than 1,000,000 people
    killed in less than a year.

    The Armenians have lobbied the US gov't to officially recognize the
    slaughter, but that would mean insulting Turkey, and Turkey gains
    favor with the US by providing its airbases for US military planes
    and personnel. Turkey is a key ally in the region and is ideally
    located, strategically, to bomb places like Iraq and Syria.
    Those bases are also why the U.S. has consistently turned a blind eye to the chemical gassing and other atrocities committed against Iraqi Kurds. Turkey is virulently anti-Kurdish for the most part, and exerted pressure on George Bush Sr. to betray the Kurds he promised to help for their support against Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War. He basically left them to be slaughtered in one of the most inhumane ways to die ever invented.

    That's why some of us gag when Dubya says he's in Iraq to promote democracy...so far, the current administration has done nothing to help the Kurds in northern Iraq, and in fact, has actively harmed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ourmaninBusan

    (The Tet offensive was the battle in 1968 which contributed
    to the shift in public opinion against maintaining the occupation
    of Vietnam. In one weekend, even though 58,000 Vietnamese
    soldiers were killed*, over 10,000 US soldiers died.)

    The total number of US soldiers killed in the Tet offensive was about 1100, not 10,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojiita
    The total number of US soldiers killed in the Tet offensive was about 1100, not 10,000.
    I'm getting some conflicting reports here.

    This airborne site indicates, as I claimed,
    "approximately 11,000 Americans were killed and 45,000 wounded.
    http://www.vietnamdiary.com/tet_casualties.htm

    However, a breakdown from Wikpedia -- in an article that has been
    labeled "disputed" or "un-neutral" -- that 1,100 Americans and
    thousands of their allies died:

    In total, the United States estimated that 45,000 PLAF and PAVN
    soldiers were killed, though this figure may be significantly lower
    due to the nature of overclaims. About 6,000 were captured,
    with the number of wounded being unclear.

    The USA, AVRN, and allied Australian and South Korean forces
    suffered 4,324 killed, 16,063 wounded, and 598 missing
    .
    This page, seemingly from a military aficionado, states much the same:
    http://www.vwam.com/vets/tet/tet.html

    But I've read in interviews that 10,000 U.S. soldiers were killed by
    an enemy that was supposed to be on the run. I certainly hope
    the current administration isn't just "shifting the decimal point"
    to make the war seem less destructive than it was....

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    You're right about Iran's Shah being propped up by the CIA even though the people overwhelmingly preferred the democratically-elected Prime Minister Mossadegh. It's really disgusting how the US says its an advocate of democracy and progress but will initiate bloodless or bloody coups. You see in Iran, the rest of the Middle East, all over South America, etc. when a REAL leader wants to reclaim their own country, nationalize their resources so their own people can benefit and progress (oh no they must be communists!!), they are loved by the people, but despised by the US gov't. I'm not saying I agree with Iran's new president, but he's talking about getting rid of US influence and not folding to US demands; many Iranians love him, while here in the US we hear he is a terrorist. We hear the same thing about Chavez in Venezuela. Sickening how many people are suffering, being tortured or murdered just because the US wants to keep a stranglehold on others rather than letting them advance their society.

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    IF it is true that this president said Israel should be wiped off the map, then i don't give a sh*t if the US and Israel plan to attack. That is a declaration of war, in my opinion.
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    I don't think angry rhetoric justifies the US going into yet another country to bomb people to bits (US and non-US persons alike).

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    Declaration of war?

    Fine. Let Israel fight it. It would be their war, not America's.

    ... oh wait, that's right.. America has special interest lobby groups that have America's proverbial dick in Israel's proverbial mouth, and the only reason Israel even EXISTS is because of those hot salty loads of cash America keeps pumping into it.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok
    America's proverbial dick in Israel's proverbial mouth, and the only reason Israel even EXISTS is because of those hot salty loads of cash America keeps pumping into it.
    This is sick, sad, and totally accurate!

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