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    McCain takes aim at Obama’s character
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    As Barack Obama traveled overseas, the campaign against him appeared to take a decisive new turn when John McCain zeroed in on his Democratic opponent’s character.
    In a year when polls show an easy victory for a generic Democratic candidate, McCain has until now been loathe to employ the tack many strategists see as essential and which anonymous e-mailers and commenters with no apparent links to his campaign have been practicing since last summer: hitting Obama not on his record or his platform, but on his values and person.
    The Democrat’s Achilles’ heel in this model is an inchoate sense among some voters that the new arrival on the national stage with the unusual biography — who’s the first black nominee from either party — isn’t American enough.
    Prior to Obama’s trip overseas, though, McCain had instead employed, without appreciable effect, a more conventional critique of his opponent as an ordinary politician, a flip-flopper and, of course, a liberal.
    On Saturday, though, McCain released a new television advertisement in which the announcer says that on his trip, Obama “made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras.”
    "John McCain is always there for our troops," adds the announcer, before concluding with the campaign’s new slogan: “McCain, country first.”
    The slogan’s inverse implication for his opponent was made clear earlier in the week, when McCain accused Obama of placing the his political ambitions before the national interest.
    "It seems to me that Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign," McCain said Tuesday in New Hampshire, a line he’s been using regularly since.
    While Republican presidential candidates have long sought to paint their Democrat foes as insufficiently devoted to the country, the military or both, McCain’s suggestion that Obama preferred to hit the gym than to visit wounded soldiers is considerably more personal than, say, President Bush’s 2004 attack on Sen. John F. Kerry for voting against bills to fund troops in Iraq. In some ways, it bears more of a resemblance to the third-party Swift Boat campaign that denigrated Kerry’s service in Vietnam.
    Further, McCain is uniquely qualified to make this charge, and Obama is uniquely vulnerable to it.
    A former naval aviator and prisoner of war in Vietnam, McCain is pressing his case against a candidate with no military experience — thanks in part to a subterranean smear campaign that’s tapped a nerve with some voters who don’t see Obama as entirely American.
    While the botched troop visit might have been the stuff of an attack ad in any case, since it was the only significant slip-up in an otherwise well-staged trip, McCain’s new ad dovetailed with the latest viral e-mail aimed at Obama, a widely circulated — though later recanted — missive from a Utah National Guard officer stationed in Afghanistan, Joseph Porter, who wrote that Obama "blew ... off" and "shunned" soldiers during his visit there.
    "He was just here to make a showing for the Americans back home," Porter wrote, though press reports contradicted some of the details provided in his e-mail. "It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country."
    Obama responded with high-minded disappointment to McCain's new round of attacks, and his traveling companions in the Middle East, Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, condemned them.
    "I think John is treading on some very thin ground here when he impugns motives and when we start to get into, 'you're less patriotic than me. I'm more patriotic,'" said Hagel, a Vietnam veteran who has yet to endorse a presidential candidate and is rumored to be considering a cross-party endorsement.
    It’s a tempting line of attack for McCain to take against Obama. A recent poll found that 55 percent of voters thought Obama the “riskier” choice for president, but only 35 percent named McCain. It’s also an attack that taps into another major source of unease — Obama's race — and is especially likely to pay dividends with a relative newcomer to the national stage such as Obama, whose public image is not yet as clearly defined as McCain's.
    McCain’s turn to character also reflects his campaign’s deep, genuine contempt for Obama. As the Democrat enjoyed boffo media coverage and a warm reception at every turn on his foreign trip, McCain aides began to openly use their derisive nickname for him, "The One," mock some of his more gushing coverage, and draw a contrast between what they characterized as their candidate's demonstrated dedication to country and their rival's lip service to the same.

    The tone is reminiscent of Hillary Rodham Clinton's disdainful mockery of Obama in the primary. "The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect,” she said, just a touch sarcastically, of her rival. Her attack is also a reminder of the difficulty in landing a clean shot on Obama.
    In his book, "The Audacity of Hope," Obama wrote: "I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views."
    While that undefined quality helped fuel Obama's meteoric political assent and may have blunted the impact of some attacks on him, it's now proving a stumbling block for many swing voters, particularly older ones. For all the media attention his historic run has attracted, not to mention the quarter-billion dollars he has already spent introducing himself to the nation, 25 percent of respondents in a recent Newsweek poll wrongly believe he was raised as a Muslim and nearly 40 percent errantly thought he attended a Muslim school while growing up abroad.
    These incorrect claims have also come up repeatedly in Politico interviews with voters, including Democrats and independents.
    Kathie Steigerwald, a Dearborn, Mich. businesswoman who said she voted for Hillary Clinton but now plans to support McCain, offered an especially succinct recital of a narrative on which other interviewees offered numerous variations:
    "I feel John McCain is a true American and I want to support a true American," she said.
    But isn't Obama a "true American?" she was asked.
    "I don't know," she said after a measured pause. "I question it."
    Why?
    "I don't know — maybe because of his name?"
    Whatever his motives, McCain’s new hit on his foe’s patriotism hints at two years of whispered, viral rumors and myths about Obama centered on his patriotism and American values, or, more to the point, his lack thereof. The e-mails —cataloged in Snopes.com's lengthy Obama section and Obama's own “fight the smears" page — often have contradictory particulars, but the thrust is clear: Obama, various false e-mails claim, is not really a natural-born American citizen, is not really a Christian and refuses to pledge allegiance to the American flag.
    "[McCain] can't beat him with the old 'liberal' playbook, they can't beat him by deploying the old social-cultural wedge issues, and it seems more and more that they won't be able to beat him on readiness and experience," said Dan Gerstein, a Democratic consultant whose clients have included Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman.
    "So all they really have left is the personal stuff, first and foremost what I would call fear of the other, which is mostly but not exclusively about race, and goes to visceral issues of trust."
    "I'm not questioning his patriotism," McCain said on ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopolous. "I am saying that he made the decision [to oppose the surge], which was political, in order to help him get the nomination of his party."
    "It really is the first time in the campaign where you have had the Obama online smears, of which there have been many, matching up with the actual paid negative advertising of a candidate," said Chris Lehane, a Democratic consultant.
    McCain supporters rejected the notion that this new line of attack is out of bounds.
    "It's accurate, effective and timely," said Rick Wilson, a Republican consultant, of McCain's ad. "It seriously speaks to the calculated nature of the trip and Obama's own [calculating nature].”
    Wilson said the questions about Obama's values and patriotism have particular potency because of his background, though he rejected the notion that race played a major role in it.
    "Obama is always going to struggle with the cultural disconnect — he scans very much as liberal Ivy League elitist," he said. "People automatically put him in a box with people who are not like middle America's view of patriotism."
    Jim Pinkerton, a contributor to Fox News who worked for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and for former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee in this year's GOP primary, isn’t convinced of the efficacy of this line of attack:
    "First they goaded him into going to Iraq and that was pretty successful — for Obama. And now the McCain people are trying to goad him into spending more time with the troops and going to hospitals to visit wounded soldiers. “They better be careful what they wish for, since Obama just might screw them up and do it.”

    This comment below shows the type of racism and stupidity that McCain is zeroing in on:


    Kathie Steigerwald, a Dearborn, Mich. businesswoman who said she voted for Hillary Clinton but now plans to support McCain, offered an especially succinct recital of a narrative on which other interviewees offered numerous variations:
    "I feel John McCain is a true American and I want to support a true American," she said.
    But isn't Obama a "true American?" she was asked.
    "I don't know," she said after a measured pause. "I question it."
    Why? "I don't know — maybe because of his name?"

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    what? a clinton supporter being a retard?

    No way.

    P.s. Don't bother sayibng "that's not a good way to unite people!" because I don't care. Clinton nutjobs need to shut the fuck up and get over it and get their heads out of their asses. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    what? a clinton supporter being a retard?

    No way.

    P.s. Don't bother sayibng "that's not a good way to unite people!" because I don't care. Clinton nutjobs need to shut the fuck up and get over it and get their heads out of their asses. Period.
    Calling someone a "retard" is always a good way to get your point across. And good to know you don't care about party unity, but some of us do because we don't want 8 years of McCain.

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    Have you identified yourself as a Clinton nutjob then?
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Nope, lol, I'm just surprised you don't care about party unity given your positions on issues and the fact that you probably don't want McCain in office either.

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    like other ppl want obama in there for any years

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    Quote Originally Posted by sue_trask View Post
    like other ppl want obama in there for any years
    Ones with common sense do..
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    not always

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    Excuse me, I want Obama in there for as many years as we can get him. A true American sees this country for the good and bad. I remember in the 60's the old folks used to say, "my country right or wrong" and "love it or leave it". That is stupid. You don't leave if there are a few problems and of course there are problems. You fix them. what this country is supposed to stand for and what it does stand for have been 2 different things for the last 8 years. We can't live in our own little American bubble. We need to be global and move with the times.
    If I can't be a good example, then let me be a horrible warning.

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    Without taking this as a bash, can someone tell me any specific things Obama has achieved during his political years?

    I hear that he has barely voted while being a senator. Is this true?

    People say feminists should vote for him, but he calls women sweetie and seems condescending.

    I hear people say he wants to unite, yet he speaks of "typical white people" and "white man's greed" and I won't even go into his preacher.

    I hear he is a true American, yet his wife is being quoted as never being proud of America and calling it a mean country.

    I truly want to like Obama as I have always belonged to the Democratic party, but I get bad vibes from him.

    Instead of being told to just shut up and stay home, I wish someone could honestly convince me of why he is the right person.

    Or is it just a matter of voting against McCain no matter who is running?

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    Wtf has McCain done except get shot down and make propaganda videos for the VietCong? He wasn't proud of his country till the ripe old age of 31 when he wanted to get out of his bamboo cage.

    It's all he ever seems to talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Wtf has McCain done except get shot down and make propaganda videos for the VietCong? He wasn't proud of his country till the ripe old age of 31 when he wanted to get out of his bamboo cage.

    It's all he ever seems to talk about.
    Okay. So it's just a matter of voting against McCain.

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    That's a good enough reason on its own, but Obama talks a good game and had he the power, would have voted against the Iraq war. He at least gave a speech about it, unlike the other tards who blithely said "Hey, that sounds like a great idea!" , dumbfuck clinton included.

    Unlike Bush, McSame or any other evil repub, I'd give Obama a shot over any of them. He at least doesn't SOUND like a complete moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    Without taking this as a bash, can someone tell me any specific things Obama has achieved during his political years?

    I hear that he has barely voted while being a senator. Is this true?
    Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign stump speeches, he rarely mentions any of the more than 1,100 votes that he's cast as a member of the United States Senate.
    What Obama's Senate votes reveal - Barack Obama News - MSNBC.com

    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    People say feminists should vote for him, but he calls women sweetie and seems condescending.
    That was just one Woman, and he apologized. Mistakes do happen, and since I suga, honey, baby everyone I talk to, I can't see it as sexist. Plus, it's not like he called his wife a cunt!
    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    I hear people say he wants to unite, yet he speaks of "typical white people" and "white man's greed" and I won't even go into his preacher.
    Seriously, if you were doing your research..you should have came to your own conclusions about this issues.. However, I have never heard 'white man's greed' come out of Obama's mouth..however, that was a sermon of Wright.

    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    I hear he is a true American, yet his wife is being quoted as never being proud of America and calling it a mean country.
    He is an American, and so is his wife.. She said for the first time, she feels 'really' proud of her country..Never did she say America was mean..
    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    I truly want to like Obama as I have always belonged to the Democratic party, but I get bad vibes from him.
    For you to be a life time Democrat..your 'worries' about Obama are right wing talking points..
    Quote Originally Posted by FriendOrFoe View Post
    Instead of being told to just shut up and stay home, I wish someone could honestly convince me of why he is the right person.

    Or is it just a matter of voting against McCain no matter who is running?
    It shouldn't be a thing whether I have to convince you to do the right things for you and your family.. If you truly wanted to know what he stood for, his voting record, about how he feels about this country, and where he would like to take it..you wouldn't have listed things that have nothing to do with whether he would make a good President, you just listed things from what you HEARD from other people. See, I am a Democrat, and no matter the color or gender of the Democratic Presidential Nominee..I will vote for them. I am pro choice, pro equal rights for ALL, and Anit-war! I think in this day and age if someone doesn't take the time to get to know the facts of a candidate on their own, they are a bit lazy to me, and should stay home(people in general, not you). I think that folks should learn all they can before they condemn them on hearsay. I shouldn't have to convince a grown person of anything..they should apply themselves to the things that are important to them and their country and it's future..

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    Here's the choice when it comes down to Obama or McCain. Obama wants to try and clean up the mess that Bush has made for nearly eight years and McCain wants to continue Bush's policies, which include looking out for the wealthy at the expense of the poor and middle class, maintaining our dependence on oil (foreign & domestic) at the expense of the environment, and continuing an illegal war which is draining the economy and turning the rest of the world against us.

    Now, nobody's saying Obama would be perfect as a president, because NOBODY is ever perfect in that job. But I'd rather have somebody in the White House that actually understands that there's a mess that needs to be cleaned up, rather than somebody who wants to bury his head in the sand and act like everything's okay the way it is.

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