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    Canada yesterday deported to the US the first American army deserter fleeing the Iraq war across the US-Canadian border.
    Robin Long, 25, faces a possible court martial and jail, and even redeployment to Iraq.

    He joined the army in 2003, after the invasion of Iraq, but became troubled by the war.

    In 2005 he fled to Canada and applied for refugee status, because the US army wanted him to participate in what he called an "illegal war of aggression in Iraq."

    On Monday, the Federal court of Canada Justice Anne Mactavish ruled that Long could not provide clear evidence that he would suffer irreparable harm if returned to the US.

    The Canada border services agency confirmed Long's removal, but declined to give other details, citing privacy laws. Long's refugee claim had already been rejected and he could not appeal this latest court ruling.

    Some 200 other US soldiers are in Canada, counting on its history of welcoming 50,000 Americans fleeing the Vietnam draft.

    Last month, Canada's parliament urged the government to allow war resisters to remain.

    However, opponents of granting refugee status to deserters argue that, unlike during the Vietnam war, the United States does not now have a military draft and members of its military are volunteers who know the potential risks.

    US soldier who deserted over Iraq is deported | World news | guardian.co.uk
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    booo, canada sucks.

    Canada has gotten lame lately.. what wih the Khadr shit, the non action on Maher Arar, the no action on climate change.. thanks Stephen Harper, you douche.
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    go for canada.

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    most canadians want them to stay.. we sheltered a lot from Vietnam
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    ^Wasn't there a draft from Vietnam though?

    I'm not saying he shouldn't get asylum. I'm just wondering about anybody who voluntarily joins the army during the Bush administration and suddenly decides that gee, maybe killing a bunch of people halfway across the world isn't all fun and giggles. He couldn't have thought this through before he joined?
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    ^^ correct...this kid joined in 2003 after the Iraq invasion.....
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    Maybe because he believed the lies being spoonfed, but then came to know the reality of the illegality once he was there.

    I mean, they DID do a poll.. 85% of the soldiers back in 03 thought they were in Iraq to get revenge on Saddam for 9/11... alllll thanks to Bush's obfuscation, and well, their own stupidity.
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    he should have fled to Mexico. there is enough room since they are all here now
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    fuck him...he's probably one of the assholes that voted for Dubya twice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Maybe because he believed the lies being spoonfed, but then came to know the reality of the illegality once he was there.

    I mean, they DID do a poll.. 85% of the soldiers back in 03 thought they were in Iraq to get revenge on Saddam for 9/11... alllll thanks to Bush's obfuscation, and well, their own stupidity.
    Oh, I'm sure they probably did. But, you know, stupidity is no excuse. It's the age of Google, how hard would it have been to do some research before signing on to be Bush's henchmen?

    I realise the issue is complex, and I know that for a lot of the people signing up, the army is a way out of a bad financial situation-tough. This isn't like starting any job, you'd better be very sure that the reasons you're signing up with are...well, not a complete fraud, though I can't think of 'good' reasons for a war right now. "Just following orders" wasn't a good excuse for the Nazis, and it isn't now.
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    I don't understand why anyone would sign up after the start of this war. Or before it for that matter, but after? Pfft.

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    If he joined before the Iraq War started, shame on Canada. If he joined after, he knew what was going on and should have to finish his service.

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