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    Clark blasts McCain's military service - Yahoo! News
    Gen. Wesley Clark, acting as a surrogate for Barack Obama’s campaign, invoked John McCain’s military service against him in one of the more personal attacks on the Republican presidential nominee this election cycle.
    Clark said that McCain lacked the executive experience necessary to be president, calling him “untested and untried” on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” And in saying so, he took a few swipes at McCain’s military service.
    “He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn't a wartime squadron,” Clark said.
    “I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.”
    Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.), also on CBS, was equally uncharitable towards Obama’s record on foreign policy as he continued to distance himself from his former party.
    “Sen. Obama, unfortunately, like a lot of the Democratic leadership, continues to take a position that we ought to withdraw ... even though the new policy is working,” said Lieberman. “If we had done what Sen. Obama asked us to do for the last couple of years, today Iran and Al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq. It would be a terrible defeat for us and our allies in the Middle East and throughout the world.”
    Meanwhile, the opposition narratives for the fall election campaign appeared to be in full force on ABC’s “This Week,” with Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.) calling McCain a flip-flopper, while Republican Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty accused Obama of not working in a bipartisan fashion.
    Emanuel attacked McCain for changing his position on offshore oil drilling, President Bush’s tax cuts and his relationship with the evangelical community.
    Quipped Emanuel: “If flip-flop was an Olympic sport, John McCain would be the first to win a gold medal.”
    But Pawlenty cited McCain’s record on immigration and his support of increasing U.S. troop presence in Iraq as ample evidence that he bucks his party on account of principle — and then challenged Emanuel to name one piece of legislation where Obama has worked across party lines.
    “The question really remains, when has Barack Obama stood up and taken on his party
    on anything of national significance?” Pawlenty asked. “It's not leadership to jump in front of a parade. And I think Barack Obama's book 'The Audacity of Hope' perhaps should be retitled 'The Audacity of Hypocrisy.'”
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    A pair of prospective running mates for Obama and McCain downplayed their interest in serving on the presidential tickets on “Fox News Sunday” — and one even said he wasn’t interested in an immediate Cabinet appointment.
    Gov. Ed Rendell (D-Pa.), said he was committed to finishing out his four-year term as governor before accepting any Cabinet position within a potential Obama administration.
    “In 2011, it's my intention to walk out the door of the [Pennsylvania] capitol ... in January of 2011. I know that disappoints some people in the capitol, but that's my intention,” Rendell said. “And if there was a position open that I was interested in, like energy or transportation, I'd be honored to serve in an Obama administration, but not at the beginning, not until my time is finished.”
    Rendell, one of Sen. Clinton’s leading surrogates during the Democratic primaries, said that President Clinton was “disappointed” that his wife came up short in the Democratic primary, but “is going to do every single thing that Barack Obama asks him to do ... and make a great case for Sen. Obama as our next president.”
    Meanwhile, former Ohio Rep. Rob Portman also disavowed interest in serving as McCain’s running mate, saying he preferred to remain with his family in Ohio instead of returning to Washington, where he most recently served as director of the Office of Management and Budget.

    “I don't expect to be asked, honestly,” said Portman. "I'm also, as you know, Chris, home after 15 years of commuting when I was in Congress and in the administration, and I've got three teenagers. It's time to be home. I love being home.”
    Portman, for his part, reiterated McCain’s unequivocal support for NAFTA despite the fact that the free trade agreement is viewed skeptically in the Rust Belt, including the electorally critical states of Ohio and Pennsylvania.
    “It's created an enormous number of jobs, including to Canada, which is our biggest trading partner,” said Portman. “And when that message gets out there, it makes it look a little silly that you have someone going around the state of Pennsylvania and Ohio blaming NAFTA for anything from high energy prices to the common cold. “
    Third party
    Both third-party presidential candidates appeared on the Sunday talk show circuit, with each offering an ample helping of criticism towards the major-party nominees.
    Ralph Nader, who said Obama was “talking white” to appeal to voters earlier in the week, continued to attack the Democratic nominee on ABC’s “This Week,” accusing him of being too cozy with an assortment of corporate interests.
    “Look at the positions he’s taken on that corporate America is very congenial to. If you want to cover everybody on health insurance ... go to single payer. He's opposed to single payer,” said Nader.
    Meanwhile, former Republican Georgia Rep. Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party’s nominee, had harsh words for both McCain and his former party.
    “What's wrong with John McCain is symptomatic of what's wrong with the Republican party in these first years of the 21st century. They talk one thing but do something different and that's become very obvious to the American people,” Barr said on Fox.
    Barr said he is the only candidate offering the combination of a crackdown on excessive government spending along with concern for civil liberties.
    But he had to distance himself from past congressional votes in support of the Patriot Act and for legislation authorizing the war in Iraq — positions anathema to much of the Libertarian Party base.
    “I certainly was wrong, along with a lot of others in Congress, and now realize that the vote in support of military operations in Iraq was not what the administration intended. They intended to occupy the country even though they didn't tell us or the American people that at the time,” said Barr.
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    And a Sunday show wrapup wouldn’t be complete without mention of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s appearance on “Meet the Press,” where he advocated for McCain’s candidacy but acknowledged their difference on offshore drilling, a proposal that Schwarzenegger opposes.
    “I'm 100 percent behind him. That we don't agree on everything, that's clear; nor do I with my wife. I mean, it doesn't mean that we should split, it just means that we don't agree on certain things.”
    He also announced his opposition to a statewide referendum that would amend the state’s constitution to ban gay marriage, while not sounding too opposed to the California Supreme Court’s recent controversial ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in the state. “I think it's good that California is leading in this way,” said Schwarzenegger. “I personally believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman. But at the same time I think that my belief, I don't want to force on anyone else, so I think we should stay with the decision of the Supreme Court and move forward.”

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    “I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.”
    Daaaaaaayam!! Fuckin harsh!

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    "I live by a simple rule. If you wore the uniform, if you served your nation with honor, and especially if you fought and were wounded in battle, then you have earned the right to be treated with respect."

    "That's why I am so outraged that the Republican party has systematically attacked the wartime service and patriotism of veterans who are running for office as Democrats. It is despicable -- the sign of a party more concerned about hanging onto power by any means possible than with giving veterans the respect they have earned." Gen Wesley Clark (Ret) October 2006 Fight Back Against Swift Boating | WesPAC Ol' Wes is bucking for a job. Never trust a man who doesn't wear socks with his loafers and jeans.

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    Wes is such a sell-out, funniest part is he is kinda a joke in Military circles.


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    “I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.”

    Ironic, as getting his PT boat cut in two was enough to elect JFK (well, that and the stolen election). I guess it only works if you're a Democrat...

    Just like it appears it's only 'despicable' to Wes Clark to attack Dems military service.
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    I think the difference is, they arent saying that John McCain was never shot down, not saying he was never imprisoned, not saying he was never tortured, etc...

    The Swift Boat tards denied Kerry's entire military contribution and said he made it up. Clarke says McCain getting shot down and imprisoned is not a basis for a presidential candidacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    I think the difference is, they arent saying that John McCain was never shot down, not saying he was never imprisoned, not saying he was never tortured, etc...

    The Swift Boat tards denied Kerry's entire military contribution and said he made it up. Clarke says McCain getting shot down and imprisoned is not a basis for a presidential candidacy.

    I agree. Different situation here in my opinion. Since Mccain is, as expected, heavily leaning on his military experience for this campaign (as he doesn't really have much of anything else to lean on), and trying by default and deliberately to make this Obama's achilles heel, it's good for Clark to bring him down a notch on this issue. Different campaigns call for different strategies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celeb_2006 View Post
    Since Mccain is, as expected, heavily leaning on his military experience for this campaign (as he doesn't really have much of anything else to lean on)
    Except a career in the House and Senate that goes back to 1983 - over 25 years.

    You don't have like him, but he has been on the political scene with a verifiable record of how he has voted for the past 25 years.

    Which is better than any bullshit a politician will try to feed you during an election.
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