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    Default MoveOn to Barack Obama: Keep your word and Filibuster FISA

    On Friday, House Democrats caved to the Bush administrationand passed a bill giving a get-out-of-jail-free card to phone companies that helped Bush illegally spy on innocent Americans.

    This Monday, the fight moves to the Senate. Senator Russ Feingold says the "deal is not a compromise; it is a capitulation." Barack Obama announced his partial support for the bill, but said, "It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."

    Last year, after phone calls from MoveOn members and others, Obama went so far as to vow to "support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies." We need him to honor that promise.

    Can you call Senator Obama today and tell him you're counting on him to keep his word? Ask him to block any compromise that includes immunity for phone companies that helped Bush break the law.

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    These companies helped the Bush Administration illegally spy on the emails and phone calls of innocent Americans. By giving "immunity" to these companies, all lawsuits brought against them by civil liberties groups would be thrown out of court. That means we may never find out how far Bush went in breaking the law. And once it's done, it can't be undone. That's why we need Obama to promise to block any bill that has immunity.

    Supporters of today's deal say it doesn't guarantee immunity, it just kicks the issue to a court to decide. But that's deceptive. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) points out:

    "It gives [Bush's] attorney general the power to decide if cases against telecommunications companies will proceed. The AG only has to certify to the FISA court that the company didn't spy or did so with a permission slip from the president. A note from the president is not a legal defense. Allowing phone companies to avoid litigation by simply presenting a 'permission slip' from the president is not court review."

    The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit group working with the ACLU to hold these companies accountable, adds, "whatever gloss might be put on it, the so-called 'compromise' on immunity for phone companies that broke the law is anything but a compromise...no matter how they spin it, this is still immunity, period."

    President Bush and the phone companies know that the facts are against them. A judge appointed by President Bush's father already wrote one opinion finding that "AT&T cannot seriously contend that a reasonable entity in its position could have believed that the alleged domestic dragnet was legal."

    But we'll never know how far their illegal actions went unless we fight back now. Can you tell Barack Obama you're counting on him to keep his word and block any compromise that gives immunity to lawbreaking phone companies?

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    He did mention he would try and get the immunity removed in his statement about why he voted for it..
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    MoveOn to Barack Obama: Keep Your Word and Filibuster FISA
    Right the fuck on! His statement supporting this massive fuckery of a "compromise" (capitulation, as my hero Senator Russ Feingold accurately calls it) pissed me the fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    He did mention he would try and get the immunity removed in his statement about why he voted for it..

    that's hardly a filibuster....

    and he's voted for it now but he'll to try to change it after it's been written into law? please

    that the dems voted for it at all is infuriating....and proof that the dems are as full of shit as repubs...

    this bill legalizes all the assaults on the 4th ammendment that Bush made......perhaps we should start to call Obama 'OBush'........as some of Bush's most blatant assaults on the Constitution seem to be ok with Obama

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    He can't filibuster if he's on the campaign trail.

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    Waffles anyone?

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