Black conservatives conflicted on Barack Obama campaign

[celeb_2006]

(As I have always believed, in the end race trumps all, even vast political differences, sad but true)

KWQC-TV6 News and Weather For The Quad Cities - Black conservatives conflicted on Obama campaign

WASHINGTON (AP) - Black conservatives are wrestling with a decision in this year's presidential election: Vote for someone who shares their conservative values or vote for someone trying to become the first black president in American history.
It is a tough decision. Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams says he's thinking about voting for a Democrat for president for the first time in his life. And he says other black conservative Republicans are considering doing the same.
It's the same with former Oklahoma congressman J.C. Watts. Watts says he's still a Republican but is critical of his party for neglecting the black community. He says black Republicans have to concede that while they may not agree with Democrats on issues, at least the party reaches out to them.

[tkdgirl]

And now we truly do know, race trumps conviction. MLK is rolling over in his grave. Extremely disappointed in both Williams and Watts. From another article about the same thing: Michael Steele, the Republican former lieutenant governor of Maryland who lost a Senate race there in 2006, said he is proud of Obama as a black man, but that "come November, I will do everything in my power to defeat him." Electing Obama, he said, would not automatically solve the woes of the black community. "I think people who try to put this sort of messianic mantle on Barack's nomination are a little bit misguided," he said.

[sputnik]

Originally Posted by celeb_2006

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It's the same with former Oklahoma congressman J.C. Watts. Watts says he's still a Republican but is critical of his party for neglecting the black community. He says black Republicans have to concede that while they may not agree with Democrats on issues, at least the party reaches out to them.

that is so true.
i agree that race does play a role. as would gender, if hillary had won the nom. i'm sure a lot of conservative women would have voted for her, just to see a woman be president. but you can't deny that republicans aren't exactly woman or minority friendly.

[*DIVA!]

Originally Posted by tkdgirl

And now we truly do know, race trumps conviction. MLK is rolling over in his grave. Extremely disappointed in both Williams and Watts. From another article about the same thing: Michael Steele, the Republican former lieutenant governor of Maryland who lost a Senate race there in 2006, said he is proud of Obama as a black man, but that "come November, I will do everything in my power to defeat him." Electing Obama, he said, would not automatically solve the woes of the black community. "I think people who try to put this sort of messianic mantle on Barack's nomination are a little bit misguided," he said.

It is funny that you mention Michael Steele. I live in Maryland, and trust me voted my party line and not for the black republican candidate. Plus, Michael Steele was crap as a Lt. Governor, and that is why he lost his Senate bid. He never once spoke on improving any conditions that plagued the inner cities(like deadbeat landlords, inadequate day care etc..) but, as soon as he entered the Senate race they couldn't keep him out of the city trying to find as many black kids, and people for him to take pictures with..spouting out crap about how he will fight for them once he became a Senator... So, NO I don't vote for someone because of their race. Plus, Maryland has always been a demoratic state..Erlich only won because the last Governor was corrupt, cheated on his wife, and closed down a number of juvenile facilities!!

[tkdgirl]

Originally Posted by SSDiva

It is funny that you mention Michael Steele. I live in Maryland, and trust me voted my party line and not for the black republican candidate. Plus, Michael Steele was crap as a Lt. Governor, and that is why he lost his Senate bid. He never once spoke on improving any conditions that plagued the inner cities(like deadbeat landlords, inadequate day care etc..) but, as soon as he entered the Senate race they couldn't keep him out of the city trying to find as many black kids, and people for him to take pictures with..spouting out crap about how he will fight for them once he became a Senator... So, NO I don't vote for someone because of their race. Plus, Maryland has always been a demoratic state..Erlich only won because the last Governor was corrupt, cheated on his wife, and closed down a number of juvenile facilities!!

I've always respected you, SS. My respect just went up. I'm glad you hold to your convictions when voting. TKD

[sputnik]

^^

i wish more people were like that. i would never vote for a republican woman (if i were american), just for the sake of seeing a woman be elected president. i don't understand how anyone could. my guess is it's people that label themselves 'democratic' or 'republican' but really have no clue about politics as a whole.

[tkdgirl]

Originally Posted by sputnik

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i wish more people were like that. i would never vote for a republican woman (if i were american), just for the sake of seeing a woman be elected president. i don't understand how anyone could. my guess is it's people that label themselves 'democratic' or 'republican' but really have no clue about politics as a whole.

I had conservative women friends who would have voted for Hillary just because she's a woman. I jwalked away from them because I knew if I stayed, it would get ugly.

[Grimmlok]

im just gonna say that voting for anybody just cuz you want them in for something as irrelevant as skin color is idiotic.

same with religion.

or gender.

or any other silly thing that has no bearing on them doing the job.

[Sasha]

Black conservatives are a walking conflict, kind of like "Log Cabin Republicans".

[lurkur]

^^Yeah.
Also, that AP article doesn't "prove" that race trumps all. A few people were mentioned. People have different opinions.

[*DIVA!]

Thank you TKD...

Originally Posted by Sasha

Black conservatives are a walking conflict, kind of like "Log Cabin Republicans".

Yes, they are. I don't understand them in so many ways.

[mamaste]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Black conservatives are a walking conflict, kind of like "Log Cabin Republicans".

In the old days, blacks had less in common with Democrats, particularly in the south. So you had a lot more Lincoln Republicans than you do today.

I've never voted party line. I'm from the south and we have a lot of RINOs and DINOs down here, so it's easier to vote for a candidate than for a party, at least on the local and state level.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by mamaste

In the old days, blacks had less in common with Democrats, particularly in the south. So you had a lot more Lincoln Republicans than you do today.

I've never voted party line. I'm from the south and we have a lot of RINOs and DINOs down here, so it's easier to vote for a candidate than for a party, at least on the local and state level.

I'm from the South as well, and up until the last few years I guess you could have called me a yellow dog Democrat. However, I don't think I've ever voted for a Dem candidate for Sheriff-it just worked out that either I knew the person running and liked what he stood for, or I simply didn't like the Dem candidate.

[mamaste]

Originally Posted by Sasha

I'm from the South as well, and up until the last few years I guess you could have called me a yellow dog Democrat. However, I don't think I've ever voted for a Dem candidate for Sheriff-it just worked out that either I knew the person running and liked what he stood for, or I simply didn't like the Dem candidate.

That's funny. Until I graduated college and finally moved away from home, I'd only ever voted for Dem sheriffs. In the small town where I grew up, we only had one sheriff and he was a Democrat. No one ever ran against him. When he was finally unseated (ended up going to jail for extortion), the only candidates who would run were.... Democrats. *sigh* Small town politics.