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    Default Newt Gingrich does something great for D-Day

    Last year, on June 6th, the anniversary of D-Day, over 1,500 radio stations honored our troops and our nation’s religious heritage by playing Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s extraordinary, six-minute, nationally broadcast prayer to the nation that first aired just hours after allied troops were storming the beaches of Normandy.

    In this prayer, Roosevelt urged the American people to a rededication of their faith, not through a “single day of special prayer” but by devoting “themselves in a continuance of prayer.”

    Broadcasting Roosevelt’s prayer again this June 6th will demonstrated how our faith can bind us together as a country.

    It will also remind some of us that the proper goal for America when facing evil is not to find excuses for defeat but to find the resources, the courage, and the innovation necessary to win.

    Will you help continue this new patriotic tradition?

    Contact your local radio stations and favorite talk shows to encourage them to play FDR’s prayer on June 6th.

    "My Fellow Americans:

    "Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.

    "And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:

    "Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.

    "Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.

    "They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.

    "They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.

    "For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.

    "Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.

    "And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.

    "Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.

    "Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.

    "And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.

    "And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.

    "With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.

    "Thy will be done, Almighty God.

    "Amen."


    I heard it this morning on the radio, and I have to say that I was so moved. Tears spilled over. It was beautiful.

    For me it's not a religious issue, but a historical one. They should do it every year.
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    Absolutely beautiful.

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    is strong enough to take everything you have. ~Thomas Jefferson

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    how times change.
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    "Dear God,

    In the name of peace and the glory you provide, please help us kill other humans.

    Amen."

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkur View Post
    "Dear God,

    In the name of peace and the glory you provide, please help us kill other humans.

    Amen."

    How's this instead?

    "Dear God,

    Lets sit around and do nothing while the Nazi wolves overrun Europe and slaughter millions of innocent people. Fuck 'em, let them die by the millions.

    Amen"
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    Um, actually that had already happened by the time the US showed up, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    How's this instead?

    "Dear God,

    Lets sit around and do nothing while the Nazi wolves overrun Europe and slaughter millions of innocent people. Fuck 'em, let them die by the millions.

    Amen"
    haha, That must have been Roosevelt's first draft of his prayer, because that's pretty much what he did until he was 'forced' out of it. He sure changed his tune when he realized the US could make a killing (no pun intended) out of the war. Whatever reason we went into the war had less to do with the innocent people and more to do with the US's own military and economic interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Um, actually that had already happened by the time the US showed up, but...

    Yes, there was a strong isolationist movement here at the time "America First"....

    However, Please do not discount LendLease....and how much help that provided before we sent our armies.

    You guys want to take away from our actions in WW2, that's your right.

    Me, I'm the grandchild of a WW2 veteran, and I honor what the men did. I'm proud.

    If we get involved, people hate America...If we wait, people hate America....there's just no pleasing some.

    Today I take the time to remember those men.....and by those men I include the British and Canadians....
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    No, WW2 is about the only war i have no problem with. It really was the definition of a 'just war'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Yes, there was a strong isolationist movement here at the time "America First"....

    However, Please do not discount LendLease....and how much help that provided before we sent our armies.

    You guys want to take away from our actions in WW2, that's your right.

    Me, I'm the grandchild of a WW2 veteran, and I honor what the men did. I'm proud.

    If we get involved, people hate America...If we wait, people hate America....there's just no pleasing some.
    I haven't forgotten all the economic and other types of assistance the US gave the Allies. But the fact is that neither the US government NOR the public cared about all those innocent people and didn't want to enter the war just to save them. That's why the US DIDN'T get involved for all those years. Someone making a public prayer to God to pretend like this was the motivation and then propagandizing to appeal to people's faith in a glorious, righteous god is what I have a problem with.

    Broadcasting Roosevelt’s prayer again this June 6th will demonstrated how our faith can bLind us together as a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkur View Post
    I haven't forgotten all the economic and other types of assistance the US gave the Allies. But the fact is that neither the US government NOR the public cared about all those innocent people and didn't want to enter the war just to save them. That's why the US DIDN'T get involved for all those years. Someone making a public prayer to God to pretend like this was the motivation and then propagandizing to appeal to people's faith in a glorious, righteous god is what I have a problem with.

    Interesting.....

    Especially as at that time in history, the US had rarely gotten involved in European affairs......

    Initially it was a European war, like so many hundreds before it, and it really did not concern the US. Like the Crimean war, The Austro-Prussian war, The Franco-Prussian war, The Napoleanic wars, The Turkish-Russo war.

    How many Americans would have been willing to go fight in the war from 1939-1941? Few indeed, and most of our citizens strongly opposed getting involved in a war on foreign soil.

    As the conflict got worse, and grew around the globe we got involved.

    I have abolutely no issue with my country's stance on this. It's one of the things I'm proud of.

    I have a personal tie to it. My grandfather was with the 3rd Armoured Division- 'Spearhead'. Landed at Normandy shortly after D-Day, and then led the American front line until the end.

    And as for Propaganda.....there is good and bad propaganda...and in WW2 good propaganda was used wisely by all countries, not just the US. If these words of FDR's helped people support the war effort then I'm all for it. Not all propaganda is evil or wrong.

    We'll have to agree to disagree.....I'm proud of my country's actions in WW2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    how times change.
    Indeed. It's great to remember and honor those past dead, but I definitely don't like the way this is trying to be linked to current affairs.

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