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    Thumbs down Expecting John McCain to know basic info on Iraq is "nitpicking" apparently

    You've got to be kidding.

    As John wrote below, McCain has his facts wrong about Iraq (again). We're talking very basic facts. McCain said yesterday in Wisconsin that the surge is over, all the troops are home. ("I can look you in the eye and tell you... We have drawn down to pre-surge levels.") In fact, 2/3 of the surge troops are still in Iraq (we added 30,000 troops and have removed 10,000, leaving 20,000 still in Iraq). According to Ben Smith, the McCain's campaign response to the criticism of McCain's mistake is to not only invoke "verb tense," but to charge that we're "nitpicking." Wow. 20,000 troops are "nit-picking." (As Ben notes, "[t]his verb tense thing is a novel excuse, with potentially wide future use on both sides. Hillary, for instance, could have been referring to the risk of future sniper fire.")

    Remember, McCain raised the issue of Iraq this week, boasting of all his trips over there, and how that makes him so much smarter than Obama about Iraq. Well, all those trips haven't really helped McCain with the facts about Iraq. Expecting a presidential candidate to know very basic facts isn't exactly nitpicking. He thought the surge was over, when in fact it's still 2/3 going on. That's a rather huge mistake for someone who claims that this is his signature issue. The McCain campaign's overreaction to this episode is instructive. They know a pattern is emerging where the candidate's words don't match reality.

    The Obama campaign weighed in again, too, via email:


    "The McCain campaign still can't explain why John McCain could be so clearly and factually wrong in stating that our troops are at 'pre-surge' levels. They are not, and anyone who wants to be Commander-in-Chief should know better before launching divisive political attacks. Once again, Senator McCain has shown that he is far more interested in stubbornly making the case for continuing a failed policy in Iraq than in getting the facts right," said Obama campaign spokesman Hari Sevugan.


    The McCain campaign can't explain why McCain gets the facts wrong -- over and over and over.

    John McCain is still living in the pre-Internet world -- definitely the pre-YouTube world. He thinks he can say anything and just make things up... as if there are no consequences, no one will record it, no one will fact check it. That's not the world the rest of us live in anymore.

    In the wake of Scott McClellan's book, the American people are paying extra attention to the discussion of the Iraq war. We've had enough deception, propaganda and happy talk. The American people want facts, something John McCain simply doesn't have.

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    Hopefully he gets called on this, but with the McClellan stuff going on this may only get as far as the blogosphere.

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    The McLellan stuff should help thrust anything Iraq-related to the forefront
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    ^I agree, but the way the US media works the Mclellan stuff will all focus on trying to burn Bush at the stake in retrospect rather than focusing on what it should say regarding our next presidential candidate.

    (not that I'm not against throwing the Bush pres. on the coals, but I'd rather see a discussion about the future)

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    I take back what I said, MSNBC and CNN are making this a story.

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    suddenly, the media is doing its job? wtf gives

    i guess with the prospect of a dem in power they're suddenly doing actual investigative journalism instead of parroting?
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    CNN keeps running this straight from utube

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c[/YOUTUBE]

    God bless the internet.

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    Youtube really changed the world didn't it lol!

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