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    Mexican President Vicente Fox has described a US proposal to build a fence along their 3,200km (2,000 miles) border as "shameful".
    He said the proposal - which Mexican officials have compared to the Berlin Wall - was a "very bad signal" from a nation of immigrants.

    The US House of Representatives passed an immigration bill last week, backing the building of a 1,130-km fence.

    About 10m Mexicans are believed to live in the US, some 4m of them illegally.

    More than a million are arrested every year as they try to enter the US to seek work.

    The controversial bill - which the US Senate is due to debate in February - also includes the use of troops and police to halt migrants, and tighter employment controls.

    "Changing needs"

    Mexico has condemned the proposal saying it is too focused on securing the border and does not acknowledge the "enormous contribution" that Mexican workers make to the US economy.

    When we look at their roots, the immense majority of [Americans] are migrants

    Mexican President Vicente Fox
    Speaking at an event for migrants in his home state of Guanajuato, President Fox said: "This wall is shameful."

    "It's not possible that in the 21st Century we're building walls between two nations that are neighbours, between two nations that are brothers."

    "When we look at their roots, the immense majority of [Americans] are migrants, migrants that have arrived from all over the world," he added.

    The US has already built a wall between San Diego and Tijuana, and now plans to fence off other parts of the border in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

    President George W Bush has said that "border security must adapt to the nation's changing needs".

    But critics of the US bill say some of the measures would be impossible to enforce and would push illegal immigrants further underground.
    'Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.' Ben Franklin

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross."
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    Ask Vincente why the fuck he doesn't take care of his country so his people don't have to escape over our border to work. As our government why the minimum wage is so low no one wants to work at that price. No one can survive on minimum wage especially in Southern California. So we have to raise the price of veggies and fruit a bit, we can still afford it. By the way, why do the fruits and veggies I buy in the summer in Winnipeg Canada cost less than the veggies and fruits I buy in San Diego in the summer?
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    Hmmm, Nana, you just made me think of something. I see prices going up on fruit and veg as well, yet fast food prices tend to remain fairly constant. perhaps a levy on fast food as an incentive to eat healthier? I know most wouldn't like the idea, but what do you think?

    And yeah, minimum wage is a joke. I'd like to see ALL our representatives live for a year on minimum wage. I think we'd see a quick hike voted in after about a month and a half.
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    I like this guy; he speaks his mind and he's usually right; plus he's a wealthy upper class "white" mexican who adopted "brown/India" daughters! that kind of shit is never NEVER done in Mexico's caste society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nana55
    Ask Vincente why the fuck he doesn't take care of his country so his people don't have to escape over our border to work. As our government why the minimum wage is so low no one wants to work at that price. No one can survive on minimum wage especially in Southern California. So we have to raise the price of veggies and fruit a bit, we can still afford it. By the way, why do the fruits and veggies I buy in the summer in Winnipeg Canada cost less than the veggies and fruits I buy in San Diego in the summer?
    Yes, I agree. He needs to quit expecting the US to take care of his people and start seeing that his people are taken care of in Mexico.

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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    ^ yes I agree w/ that too, but 1 single man cannot change the long-standing tradition of corruption in Mexico.

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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    well, sending them over here is not our problem. They are wreaking havoc on our healthcare and school systems. something needs to be done.
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    Build the fence and then electrify it. If people want to immigrate, do it the proper way or don't do it at all. it's not fair to all those who go through the proper channels.
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    he is an enemy of the state

    all senators, reps, businesses and political action groups who support the invasion and destorying the american workers are enemies of the state

    they need to be treated as enemies of the state

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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    Last I checked, Mexicans didn't have the fantastic ability to actually destroy people.
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    1. I am reminded of the Muriel refugee flood from Cuba in 1980.
    Castro took advantage of the exodus to empty out his prisons;
    roughly one in five of the 100,000+ Cubans coming to Florida
    had criminal records, and not all of them were "political dissidents"
    like Vaclav Havel, because Cuba is not a font of academic writing.

    Prisons are expensive to run; you give a prisoner bed and board
    and they don't necessarily do much unless they're on a chain gang.
    I have the creeping suspicion that Fox wants to keep the border
    open so he can empty out his prisons into the tide.

    2. I believe that countries should only absorb immigrants as their
    economy allows it. This idea, of course, is subject to abuse;
    it's obvious that an influx of cheap labor means that big business
    can strike a blow against labor unions at the bargaining table,
    at least in certain key industries like construction.

    Also, the notion that we need to bring in a migrant worker because
    they'll contribute taxes to pay for Social insurance or medicare is
    nonsense. How many of these illegals are being paid under the
    table?


    3. Stars in H'wood are actually relocating elsewhere because of
    the increase in street crime from Mexican gangs. See #1.
    Yet on TV, they denounce racism every chance they get,
    without realizing they are shunning the multicultural ideal in real life.

    That's enough for now. I have a "warn" light, you know.

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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    I'm not sure avoiding crime is racism.
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    Default Re: Mexican President Vincente Fox calls border wall 'shameful'

    ^^ Well, if our fave celebs are not fleeing because of the high crime,
    that leaves them in the untenable position of saying,
    "oh, I'm leaving because of all the Mexicans coming in."

    They wouldn't say that on camera.

    Another issue is that of land claims. Many of those Mexicans
    see the southern US states as their property; white people
    are on it, and ought to leave.

    (And I omitted blacks because the Mexicans don't give a damn
    about the blacks. Hispanic activists have the saying: "They shall
    overcome; we shall overwhelm.")

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    Race is stupid.
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