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    A warning should be issued, right here, and right now. What I am about to tell you could hurt you. It could set you free. It could be told in a way you might not like or respect. It could be all of these things and a few you never wanted to know.

    In your Divided House there exists a paper thin weakness, a figure behind a curtain, with feet of clay, living only for the hour because tomorrow may never come. The soft underbelly your Champion harbors in hopeful oblivion exists, I and many others, together, have seen it. There are just too few of us. We know what it fears, for we are ‘The Sword’. It has it’s Achilles Heel, this Body Politic, if one only knows where to look. But to look requires the opening of one’s eyes. And yes, it could be awful. That is why I’ve warned you.

    Nothing ever worth knowing is easy and this is no different. I need you to see. I need you to think. I need you to understand where I am coming from. But first you must understand who I am because if you cannot recognize me, there is no point in us going any further. So allow me to introduce myself - my name is Truth.

    By definition I am simple. TRUTH: 1. the true or actual state of a matter; 2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement; 3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle; 4. the state or character of being true; 5. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; 6. honesty; integrity; truthfulness; 7. (capitalized first letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience.

    So as you can see, I can be many things but I cannot be controverted. I can weather opinions but am never changed by them. No matter the twisting of the wind or the shade of the glass, the sky is still blue and the grass is still green, and a version of the truth is only true if unchanged.

    So this brings me to my portrait, the one I am about to paint. It is mine, and yet others have drawn the same conclusion. It has taken years for this picture to ‘expose’ itself, but just a month and a day, for me to paint the image, that I have discovered was not in my mind alone. But this is not a reproduction; this is not an opinion. After all, I am Truth, am I not? So I must tell you the image is real; it is set. This portrait is more Dorian Gray, knife in canvas, then Dorian Gray, young illusionist, misleading his audience, while hiding from the world his sins behind a curtain. Indeed, this is the Dorian Gray found on the floor, horrible to look upon, but undeniably him.

    THE TRUTH VS. BARACK OBAMA
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    CHARGE 1 – “The March on Selma got me born.”

    EVIDENCE - Senator Obama was born August 4th, 1961. The march on Selma began March 7th, 1965. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

    COUNTER CLAIM – Senator Obama was talking about the general movement, not specifically about Selma.

    REBUTTTAL – Senator Obama was in Selma, Alabama, before a mostly AA crowd at the Brown Chapel AME Church on March 4th, 2007. He clearly stated “because some folks were willing to march across a bridge . . . they (his parents) got together, and Barack Obama, Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama!” Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961. The first march on Selma, Alabama occurred on March 7, 1965.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 5 - “President Kennedy rescued my father from Kenyan obscurity and airlifted him to the American Dream.”

    EVIDENCE – Senator Obama’s father came in September 1960, while EISENHOWER was President. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

    COUNTER CLAIM – But his father did come to the U.S. so what is the big deal?

    REBUTTAL – Senator Obama misrepresents historical events. No speech by President John F. Kennedy brought Senator Obama’s father to the U.S. in 1960. John F. Kennedy was not President in 1960, Dwight D. Eisenhower was President. The Senator is attempting to subtly equate himself with J.F.K., subconsciously implying he would be a similar President. Senator Obama, you are no Jack Kennedy.

    VERDICT - SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 19 - “I do not vote ‘Present’ any more than any other IL Representative.”

    EVIDENCE – While ‘Present’ votes may not be unusual in Illinois, the number of ‘Present’ votes that Senator Obama placed ARE disproportionate. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, NY Times 12/20/07 by Raymond Hernandez and Christopher Drew

    COUNTER CLAIM – ‘Present’ votes are used to block portions of undesirable legislation and is a common tactic in Illinois.

    REBUTTAL – The issue at hand is not the purpose of the ‘Present’ votes but rather their frequency. 129 ‘Present’ votes is not a common number for any Representative in the Illinois State House, other than Senator Obama.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 21 - “I barely know William Ayers” – A.K.A. – Abu Zayd

    EVIDENCE – Senator Obama announced the start of his Senate campaign from the front steps of William Ayers’ home, in the neighborhood that they share. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

    COUNTER CLAIM – Just because Senator Obama lives in the same neighborhood with Ayers doesn’t prove they knew each other well.

    REBUTTAL – William Ayers (or Abu-Zayd), Louis Farrakhan, and Senator Obama all live in the same neighborhood. Ayers is the founder of the Woods Fund, of which Senator Obama was it’s director from 1999 to 2002. Perhaps one might ask oneself; who chooses the director of the Wood Fund? Perhaps its founder? Secondly, if Senator Obama announced his campaign run in Illinois from Ayers’s home, did he not ask Ayers’ permission first? If the Senator did not know Abu-Zayd Ayers well, then how did he come to choose Ayers’ front steps to announce his campaign? Random chance?

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 22 - “I support a 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.”

    EVIDENCE - We enter into evidence a few of Senator Obama’s quotes and votes on gun control: “Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions.” (Jul 1998), “Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.” (Jul 2005). SOURCE 1, Source 2: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.148 Oct 30, 2007, Source 3: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998, Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-219 on Jul 29, 2005

    COUNTER CLAIM – Senator Obama just wants to prevent criminals for finding and using guns.

    REBUTTAL – Senator Obama’s policy on guns seems to change specifically in regards to the audience he is addressing. There are many quotes from the Senator in which he suggests an all out ban on handguns. Bare in mind that these bans PRIMARILY affect LEGAL gun ownership.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 28 - “I have the solutions to repair our economy.”

    EVIDENCE - Senator Obama voted against his own economic proposal package. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2

    COUNTER CLAIM - Washington is in a stalemate. Senator Obama has fresh ideas.

    REBUTTAL – Senator Obama’s 111 economic proposals were just combined into an amendment to a bill, and the amendment was defeated 97-0. Senator Obama rejected his own proposals; apparently, they were not the solutions or ‘fresh ideas’ he was speaking about.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 30 - “I barely know Tony Rezko. I did about 5 hours of billed work for him.”

    EVIDENCE – Senator Obama has known Antoin Rezko for 17 years. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

    COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama meets many people. He is a Senator.

    REBUTTAL – Antoin Rezko first spoke with Senator Obama in 1990. Senator Obama worked at the Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland Law firm, specializing in legal issues involving land development. It is in this area of law that the Senator came in contact with Rezko and his company, Rezmar Corp. Senator Obama left the law firm for the State Legislature, while one of the firm’s founders, Mr. Allison Davis, left his firm to form a new development company, New Kenwood LLC – with none other than Mr. Antoin Rezko. Once in the State Legislature, and still performing periodic work for his old law firm (now Miner, Barnhill, & Galland), Senator Obama used his elected position to provide legitimacy to his friend’s new venture. He crafted a letter to the legislature that ultimately secured $855,000 in ‘development fees’ for his pals, Rezko and Davis. Mr. Rezko went on to be quite a staunch campaign donor for the Senator, raising at least $250,000 for Senator Obama while in Illinois.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 32 - “I don’t have ‘bundlers’ and I don’t take PAC money.”

    EVIDENCE - Senator Obama has 79 bundlers and has collected over $13,000,000 in lobbyist PAC money. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

    COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has been careful not to compromise himself, “rejecting campaign support from Political Action Committees and lobbyists.”

    REBUTTAL – Here is a starter list of Senator Obama’s registered lobbyists:
    Timothy Broas $100,000, Frank Clark $200,000, Howard Gutman $200,000, Scott Harris (DC) $200,000, Allan Katz $200,000, William Lake (DC) $50,000, Robert S. Litt $not given, Kenneth Lore (DC) $50,000, Thomas Perrelli $200,000, Thomas Reed $200,000, Paul Roth $50,000, Alan Solomont $100,000, Robert M. Sussman (DC) $50,000, Tom Wheeler (DC) $100,000. $1,700,000 dollars from these registered lobbyists, or four times more than Obama’s officially declared lobbyist sum. To date there are at least 38 such individual lobbyists donating to Senator Obama’s campaign. PS – Having the wives of these individuals write the checks does not alter where the money came from.
    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 33 - “I don’t take money from lobbyists.”

    EVIDENCE - At least 38 Individuals on Senator Obama’s campaign are or work for lobbyists. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

    COUNTER CLAIM – Most of the individuals you site are lawyers, not lobbyists.

    REBUTTAL – Most of the lawyers that make up this list work for firms that lobby the Government. 31 of them manage registered lobbyists. You may parse the definitions – these lawyers and/or their firms lobby the government and donate to Senator Obama’s campaign. Either way, he takes money from lobbyists.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 35 - “I have clean connections, unlike my opponents and most of Washington.”

    EVIDENCE - Rezko, William Ayers (Abu-Zayd), Nadmi Auchi, Rashid Khalidi, Jeremiah Wright, James Meeks, Louis Farrakhan. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5, SOURCE 6, SOURCE 7

    COUNTER CLAIM - Guilt by association is not fair.

    REBUTTAL – Associations one chooses to initiate and/or maintain speaks to one’s character and judgment. For instance, Antoin Rezko – who is currently on trial for Corruption. Senator Obama has received a quarter of a million dollars from this individual, and has had to return it in ever increasing amounts, as the Senator was caught not truthfully disclosing the amount donated. Senator Obama also decided to participate in a real estate deal with Mr. Rezko during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, The Senator made a deal to purchase a home, by dividing the property with the Rezko family. The property in question was divided, lot VS. House, because it was out of The Senator’s price range. And so was the down payment. Perhaps this is where Auchi comes in? Only the trial of Rezko can tell us. Continuing, once it was determined that the Senator could not afford the property, $300K was promptly removed from the asking price (in 2005, before mortgage problems drove down home prices). Rezko’s wife stepped in to buy the lot the Senator couldn’t afford, saving him $625,000. Another associate of Senator Obama’s is the founder of the Woods Fund, for which the Senator was its Director for 4 years, William (Abu-Zayd) Ayers. Abu-Zayd, or William Ayers as he was known then, was an American Terrorist who attempted to bomb the Pentagon. Next on our list would be Nadmi Auchi – Iraqi Billionaire swindler who helped himself to money from the Food Or Oil program and may have assisted the Senator is securing the money to put down on his Chicago mansion. Next we have Rashid Khalidi – former PLO spokesman and supporter of terrorism against Israel. Next we have the infamous Jeremiah Wright and James Meeks – rabid racists, anti-American preachers/community leaders, both have an affinity or a direct connection to the Nation of Islam. Speaking of the Nation of Islam, we next have Louis Farrakhan – renowned racist, anti-American, voracious Anti-Semite and homophobe – leader of the Nation of Islam. One would like to ask Senator Obama which of these individuals are the ‘clean’ ones?

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 38 - “I sponsored dozens of my own bills in one year and passed them in the Illinois State Senate.”

    EVIDENCE - State Senator Ricky Hendon ‘appointed’ Obama as sponsor of Hendon’s high-profile legislation. Not one of those Bills was truly sponsored by Senator Obama. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4

    COUNTER CLAIM - But Senator Obama did sponsor and pass the bills.

    REBUTTAL – Senator Obama was ‘appointed’ the sponsor of bills originated and crafted by Senator Hendon. Senator Obama attached his signature to the bill, thus conspicuously taking credit for it’s sponsorship and passage. Additionally Emil Jones had to direct Senator Obama to craft certain legislation. It was not spontaneously created by Senator Obama.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 39 - “I believe in fairness, not tactics, to win elections.”

    EVIDENCE - Senator Obama hired a team of investigators to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against him. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

    COUNTER CLAIM - Some of the signatures for Alice Palmer were forged.

    REBUTTAL – 4 of the signatures were found to be forgeries. Senator Obama used investigators and little known political tactics to eliminate his opposition. He then went on to run uncontested.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 49 - “I have sponsored and passed plenty of Bills in the U.S. Senate. I have experience.”

    EVIDENCE - You have passed 2 BILLs in the U.S. Senate – one for Africa and one that makes lobbyists stand while they eat. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3

    COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has sponsored 123 Bills in the US Senate.

    REBUTTAL – Senator Obama has one of the worst records for getting bills passed that he has sponsored in the US Senate. That sounds like experience most of us wouldn’t want. The Senator has sponsored and passed 2 Bills in the US Senate - one for the Congo (shock and awe?) and one that makes lobbyists stand when they eat. Impressive work for 4 years on the job.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 60 - “I never heard sermons at Trinity like those being played on Youtube and by the mainstream media.”

    EVIDENCE - Senator Obama said: “Did I ever hear him (Rev. Wright) make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.” SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

    COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama said he disagreed with what Reverend Wright said, what more do you want him to say?

    REBUTTAL – Not only did Senator Obama agree with Rev. Wright, 14 months earlier about having to distance himself from the church, (and Rev. Wright himself), Senator Obama said he had never heard sermons that contained anything like what the mainstream media and Youtube were playing ‘on every station’. 3 days later, in his own speech, he stated ““Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes.” ‘What more do we want him to say?’ We think ‘I Lied.’ would be sufficient.

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR
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    CHARGE 66 - “My campaign donations are from millions of average people {bitter, typical white people too?}. We are winning in a new way, without corporate influence, or special interests.”

    EVIDENCE - The implication is that special interests, corporations, banks, and industry donations are not accepted. Nothing could be further from the truth. SOURCE 1, SOURCE 2, SOURCE 3, SOURCE 4, SOURCE 5

    COUNTER CLAIM - Senator Obama has millions of donors who have given less than $100.

    REBUTTAL – True, Senator Obama does have many donors that have given less then $100. Senator Obama also allows the false impression that he does not take PAC or lobbyist money, money from Big Oil, Big Banking, Big Industry, or Corporate America. Here is a very small rundown of just how much money these special interest, corporate giants have been donating to Senator Obama’s ‘Grass Roots’ campaign: Top Contributors: 1 Kirkland & Ellis $143,138, 2 University of Chicago $139,554, 3 Sidley Austin LLP $100,932,4 Henry Crown & Co $79,500, 5 Sonnenschein, Nath & Rosenthal $74,950, 6 Exelon Corp $71,850, 7 Northwestern University $70,430, 8 Mayer, Brown et al $69,960, 9 Jenner & Block $62,710, 10 Soros Fund Management $61,605, 11 Goldman Sachs $61,500, 12 Clifford Law Offices $59,550, 13 Simmons Cooper LLC $58,500, 14 Tejas Securities $57,250, 15 JP Morgan Chase & Co $56,600, 16 Ariel Capital Management $55,650, 17 Skadden, Arps et al $54,071, 18 Winston & Strawn $52,450, 19 Piper Rudnick LLP $45,600, 20 Holland Capital Management $43,350. The top industries supporting Barack Obama are: 1 Lawyers/Law Firms $2,464,360, 2 Securities & Investment $1,117,132, 3 Retired $857,601, 4 Real Estate $620,760, 5 Education $542,966, 6 Business Services $509,266, 7 Misc Finance $415,498, 8 Health Professionals $363,713, 9 TV/Movies/Music $299,233, 10 Commercial Banks $282,553, 11 Printing & Publishing $186,293, 12 Insurance $183,132, 13 Non-Profit Institutions $175,720, 14 Misc Business $150,991, 15 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $146,175, 16 Civil Servants/Public Officials $144,069, 17 Lobbyists $127,800, 18 Computers/Internet $125,333, 19 Construction Services $119,910, 20 Electric Utilities $102,700

    VERDICT – SENATOR OBAMA, YOU ARE A LIAR


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    One person's political nuance is another person's political lie, is another person's truth.

    But I tend to agree with the verdict. I've seen a list with over 100 points directly challenging things said by Obama. Just affirmed to me he is an empty suit who has great orator skills.

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    what, savage not do any real research? just reposted a fucking chain e-mail? NO WAY.
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    Confirmation bias.

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    Savage? You mean the guy who told a caller to his show, and I quote:

    "You should ony get aids and die you pig" -
    Yeah, he's not biased.

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    The site has nothing to do with Michael Savage, the right wing pundit. It's the website of J. Cifre.

    carry on all......
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    Oh that's just the title of the section, and some other author just used a chain e-mail as legitimate journalism. I feel much better.
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    I'm so happy I did a good deed and made you feel better today....

    it's so rare we get to help our fellow human beings
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