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    Default Very interesting Barack Obama video

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    It's interesting that we wouldn't even place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Alligence.

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    I don't trust any of them, Clinton, Obama or McCain.

    Clinton - we already know she's a liar and cover up artist with her own agenda.

    Obama - one could suspect he is no better than Hilary (except he has superior speech skills)

    McCain - just more of Bush with a new face and name.


    That was an amusing video though, it's funny what you can say if you piece together bit of facts here and there and make something out of it.
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    oh god, not that hand over heart, didnt wear a chinese made american flag pin crap again

    for real, arent there any actual issues people would rather talk about? no?

    k, just thought i'd ask.
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    Sure there are other issues but I don't think we need a President that won't even salute the flag.

    This can be an issue, along with all the other issues you choose too Grimm. It doesn't have to be either/or.

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    yes, because saluting a flag is REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF

    who cares about the actual running of a nation, if you don't perform a certain hand motion in front of a piece of fucking fabric it means YER UNFIT TO DO SO.

    Also, that pledge of alliegiance crap is so fascist.

    btw, he was actually singing along to the anthem. OH NOEZ.

    why are people even THINKING about this garbage? it's so irrelevant! its why policits and political discourse is run by talking heads, sound bites and opinion polls.

    who cares who wore what pin, who mousses his hair with what product, what some lady uses to brush her teeth in the morning or what 2000 year old book some other douche wipes his ass with.
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    Saluting a flag is VERY important stuff to people that have fought for said flag.

    And a lot of people care about a running of a nation by an asshole that can even stand for small things that the nation was built on. No, it's not that major of an item, but it's still tacky and sad that someone could be the leader of our nation, but doesn't have the tact to actually be patriotic enough to do what every other American has done since Betsy Ross made the damn thing.

    Maybe in Canada things are done differently, but around here people believe in the flag, the National Anthem and what it stands for; it's a symbol of unity and it works at bringing our country together.

    Now go stop your fellow citizens from buring down your country over a damn sports game.

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    your nation was not built on hand motions for fabric. The pledge of allegiance was also some McCarthyite crap installed in the 1950's, along with the "in god we trust" nonsense.

    The guy was singing along to the national anthem (i guess he must just hate america) and is running for president of america (cuz all people who hate the country try to run it), but OH NO he's been invalidated cuz he didnt put his stupid hand over his heart one time.

    You know how stupid that sounds?

    And yes, in Canada we do things differently. People burn flags all the time, rip them up, stomp all over them, dont put them up, leave them out in the rain, and god knows what else.

    Why?

    Because as the Mountie who let Fred Phelps torch a Canadian flag some years ago said "Who cares, it's just some fabric. It doesn't take away what we are."


    We know what we've done and what we stand for. We don't need a piece of fabric and magic handshakes to tell us.

    p.s. if we win the stanley cup im going looting. for realz. you'll see me on COPS with a big screen tv in my arms, waddling down the street shouting drunken obscenities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    p.s. if we win the stanley cup im going looting. for realz. you'll see me on COPS with a big screen tv in my arms, waddling down the street shouting drunken obscenities.
    I can't wait for the ESPN video.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    your nation was not built on hand motions for fabric.
    I didn't say it was. I said our country was founded on brotherly love, believing in the country, the flag and our troops. You're the one wording it like a child, not me.

    The pledge of allegiance was also some McCarthyite crap installed in the 1950's, along with the "in god we trust" nonsense.
    In God we Trust is ONE line of the Pledge of Alligence; it is not the meaning of the Pledge. The pledge means oath of loyalty to your country. Look it up if you don't believe me. BTW, the pledge was written in 1892 and has been recited hundreds of thousands of times prior to the 1950's.

    The guy was singing along to the national anthem (i guess he must just hate america) and is running for president of america (cuz all people who hate the country try to run it), but OH NO he's been invalidated cuz he didnt put his stupid hand over his heart one time.
    Yeah, George Bush ran because he loved us.

    You know how stupid that sounds?
    About as stupid as everything you said that I just replied to.


    And yes, in Canada we do things differently. People burn flags all the time, rip them up, stomp all over them, dont put them up, leave them out in the rain, and god knows what else.

    Why?

    Because as the Mountie who let Fred Phelps torch a Canadian flag some years ago said "Who cares, it's just some fabric. It doesn't take away what we are."
    Maybe that's why your country is in hotwater for showing no respect to your dead troops. Some people do have hearts and emotions, other than bitterness.


    We know what we've done and what we stand for. We don't need a piece of fabric and magic handshakes to tell us.
    Your country might want to try to get something to tell you, it will let all the dead soilders families know they died for something and not just for a bleak and lonely shipment home.

    p.s. if we win the stanley cup im going looting. for realz. you'll see me on COPS with a big screen tv in my arms, waddling down the street shouting drunken obscenities.

    Grimm, I am not trying to be rude, but don't bark at me. I understand where you are coming from and NO I don't think this is the only reason not to vote the man into office. I just find it interesting, that as an American and knowing first hand, what the flag stands for that he can't be bothered to do what most normal Americans do. I mean, he is running for President, comply with the unwritten rules.

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    I didn't say it was. I said our country was founded on brotherly love, believing in the country, the flag and our troops. You're the one wording it like a child, not me.
    It's called simplification, and frankly how much brotherly love was there for slavery and all the inequality that existed at the time? See, anything can be broken down and shown to be a fraud if you look at it hard enough.

    In God we Trust is ONE line of the Pledge of Alligence; it is not the meaning of the Pledge. The pledge means oath of loyalty to your country.
    I think it's cute that you need to force people to recite some lines like it means anything. It's like the hand for flag thing: empty motions and empty rhetoric.

    BTW, the pledge was written in 1892 and has been recited hundreds of thousands of times prior to the 1950's.
    So I see.. with a few changes here and there, and then complusory addition to the classroom.. charming. The only real allegiance is the kind you force from people.

    Yeah, George Bush ran because he loved us.
    No, George Bush won becaus your system is corrupt and the populace easily scared and not very educated on issues, mostly because stupid shit like this keeps their attention for too long.


    About as stupid as everything you said that I just replied to.
    Yep, because hand motions for fabric is real important serious stuff.


    Maybe that's why your country is in hotwater for showing no respect to your dead troops. Some people do have hearts and emotions, other than bitterness.
    Funny, we have "THe highway of heroes" that OUR dead soldiers travel down with a police escort motorcade, cops, firefighters and the public lined up along, saluting them. It's also covered on the news.

    Wait, which country doesn't do that, and which country has BANNED any photography or film of dead soldiers returning because it might be bad for the war spin? Riiiiiiiiiight.

    Your country might want to try to get something to tell you, it will let all the dead soilders families know they died for something and not just for a bleak and lonely shipment home.




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    Whatever Grimm. I refuse to stand here and have you bitch and gripe about everything Americans or Christians do. I do not put down gays and I would expect the same respect from you at times. You really need to learn a little about give and take.

    Anyway, moving on.......

    The video is interesting and I will not vote for the bastard.

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    Gays don't generally invade other countries based on lies, or persecute others for some sky fairy, but hey...

    and i don't actually care who you, or anybody else votes for.. it's just silly, niggling, inconsequential stuff like this that sees people like Bush get elected. IT has nothing to do with the actual running of a country, it's like.. window dressing that has become the sole focus of a play. WHo cares about plot, characters, writing, or directions.. THE CURTAINS ARE ALL WRONG
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    But, aren't you bashing someone right now.....The sky fairy and Christians (or what you call Christans)?

    I am a Christian and I have NEVER attacked you and never would, based or your sexual preference, yet you continue to attack Christians (me) and Americans (because of our leader and the way the world is going...you know things we can't all help, not everyone voted the bastard in)? See what I am saying?

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    Seriously though, the Athem issue and the pin are the least damning of the video.

    I can't wait for him throw Grandma from the train again.
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