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    Obama church published
    Hamas terror manifesto
    Compares charter calling for murder
    of Jews to Declaration of Independence


    Posted: March 20, 2008
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    By Aaron Klein
    WorldNetDaily


    Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook
    JERUSALEM Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter which calls for the murder of Jews to America's Declaration of Independence.
    The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week.
    Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.
    The revelation follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.
    In his July 22, 2007, church bulletin, Wright reprinted an article by Mousa Abu Marzook, identified in the newsletter as a "deputy of the political bureau of Hamas." A photo image of the newsletter was captured and posted today by the business blog BizzyBlog. The Hamas piece was first published by the Los Angeles Times, garnering the newspaper much criticism.

    According to senior Israeli security officials, Marzook, who resides in Syria alongside Hamas chieftain Khaled Meshaal, is considered the "brains" behind Hamas, designing much of the terror group's policies and ideology. Israel possesses what it says is a large volume of specific evidence that Marzook has been directly involved in calling for or planning scores of Hamas terrorist offensives, including deadly suicide bombings. He was also accused of attempting to set up a Hamas network in the U.S.
    Marzook's original piece was titled, "Hamas' stand" but was re-titled "A Fresh View of the Palestinian Struggle" by Obama's church newsletter. The newsletter also referred to Hamas as the "Islamic Resistance Movement," and added in its introduction that Marzook was addressing Hamas' goals for "all of Palestine."
    In the manifesto, Marzook refers to Hamas' "resistance" the group's perpetuation of anti-Israel terrorism targeting civilians as "legal resistance," which, he argues, is "explicitly supported by the Fourth Geneva Convention."
    The Convention, which refers to the rights of people living under occupation, does not support suicide bombings or rocket attacks against civilian population centers, the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America noted.
    Marzook refers to Hamas' official charter as "an essentially revolutionary document" and compares the violent creed to the Declaration of Independence, which, Marzook states, "simply did not countenance any such status for the 700,000 African slaves at that time."
    Hamas' charter calls for the murder of Jews. Among its platforms is a statement that the "[resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: 'Oh Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!'"
    In his piece, Marzook says Hamas only targets Israel and denies that Hamas' war is meant to be waged against the U.S., even though Hamas officials have threatened America, and Hamas' charter calls for Muslims to "pursue the cause of the Movement (Hamas), all over the globe."
    Trinity Church did not respond to a phone message requesting comment.
    Obama's campaign also did not reply to phone and e-mail requests today for comment.
    Obama aide wants talks with terrorists
    WND reported in January that Malley, an Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.
    Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.
    Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.
    In February 2006, after Hamas won a majority of seats in the Palestinian parliament and amid a U.S. and Israeli attempt to isolate the Hamas-run Palestinian Authority, Malley wrote an op-ed for the Baltimore Sun advocating international aid to the terror group's newly formed government.
    "The Islamists (Hamas) ran on a campaign of effective government and promised to improve Palestinians' lives; they cannot do that if the international community turns its back," wrote Malley in a piece entitled, "Making the Best of Hamas' Victory."
    Malley contended the election of Hamas expressed Palestinian "anger at years of humiliation and loss of self-respect because of Israeli settlement expansion, Arafat's imprisonment, Israel's incursions, Western lecturing and, most recently and tellingly, the threat of an aid cutoff in the event of an Islamist success."
    Malley said the U.S. should not "discourage third-party unofficial contacts with [Hamas] in an attempt to moderate it."
    In an op-ed in the Washington Post in January coauthored by Arafat adviser Hussein Agha, Malley using what could be perceived as anti-Israel language urged Israel's negotiating partner, Abbas, to reunite with Hamas.
    "A renewed national compact and the return of Hamas to the political fold would upset Israel's strategy of perpetuating Palestinian geographic and political division," wrote Malley.
    He further petitioned Israel to hold talks with Hamas.
    "An arrangement between Israel and Hamas could advance both sides' interests," Malley wrote.
    In numerous other op-eds, Malley advocated a policy of engagement with Hamas.

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    oh comne on, worldnetdaily?

    That's not a reputable news source. That's like listening to Karl Rove talk about Iraq and believing every word.
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    Oh but the hateful Huffington Post is??

    What is only liberal bias allowed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    oh comne on, worldnetdaily?

    That's not a reputable news source. That's like listening to Karl Rove talk about Iraq and believing every word.
    Grimm, its not reputable to you because you're a liberal. Regardless of who reported it, the fact remains that his church did indeed publish the manifesto- the SAME one the LA Times took incredible heat for publishing.

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    No, it's not reputable because IT'S LAUGHED AT.

    It has a reputation for falsehoods, and a deserved one at that. Do your research. It's right wing church fundie 'moral majority' claptrap that isn't exactly bound by things such as fact 99% of the time.

    Jesus, next someone will tell me FOX news is journalistic integrity at it's finest.



    It has nothing to do with being liberal, and frankly, I love being called a liberal. Where I'm from, it's a compliment. It's about being FACTUAL and ACCURATE.

    That's the difference between us filthy liberals and the neocon masses.. liberals want information that is correct. Conservatives what information that is CONSERVATIVE.

    That's why things such as "conservapedia" , the idiotic right wing version of wikipedia, exist. They need that echo chamber and bubble to live in, not reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    No, it's not reputable because IT'S LAUGHED AT.

    It has a reputation for falsehoods, and a deserved one at that. Do your research. It's right wing church fundie 'moral majority' claptrap that isn't exactly bound by things such as fact 99% of the time.

    Jesus, next someone will tell me FOX news is journalistic integrity at it's finest.



    It has nothing to do with being liberal, and frankly, I love being called a liberal. Where I'm from, it's a compliment. It's about being FACTUAL and ACCURATE.

    That's the difference between us filthy liberals and the neocon masses.. liberals want information that is correct. Conservatives what information that is CONSERVATIVE.

    That's why things such as "conservapedia" , the idiotic right wing version of wikipedia, exist. They need that echo chamber and bubble to live in, not reality.
    Grimm, I have seen the actual manifesto posted on the Pastor's page. Now, is that a lie or is it factual?

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    The church definitely published the manifesto, so I fail to understand how an article stating such could possibly be false.

    I feel that with all of the deeply troubling and, frankly, frightening new information coming out of the woodwork about this "church", you'd have to be out of your fucking mind to put someone in the White House who claims to be actively involved in it.

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    Can you post the link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    Can you post the link?
    Its in the article. It goes to a place called busyblog, or something like that. I've seen the image on other sites now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    No, it's not reputable because IT'S LAUGHED AT.

    It has a reputation for falsehoods, and a deserved one at that. Do your research. It's right wing church fundie 'moral majority' claptrap that isn't exactly bound by things such as fact 99% of the time.

    Jesus, next someone will tell me FOX news is journalistic integrity at it's finest.



    It has nothing to do with being liberal, and frankly, I love being called a liberal. Where I'm from, it's a compliment. It's about being FACTUAL and ACCURATE.

    That's the difference between us filthy liberals and the neocon masses.. liberals want information that is correct. Conservatives what information that is CONSERVATIVE.

    That's why things such as "conservapedia" , the idiotic right wing version of wikipedia, exist. They need that echo chamber and bubble to live in, not reality.
    Grimm is right. THat is not a reputable website.

    And yes, the church did re-print that article. But before you get up in arms, did you even READ the article? Its an editorial. There is nothing violent or threatening in the article. Moreover, Hamas was ELECTED by huge margins by the Palestinians, and they have vastly changed their tactics in recent years, renounced their formerly violent ways and focused on trying to run a governement versus perpetuating violence.

    The issue with the WND article is the manner in which it portrays the printing of the article. It makes it sound as if Trinity published a personal terrorist threat and manifesto. Which is not AT ALL the case.

    People need to calm down and get back to reason. This is all getting more than a little ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southernbelle View Post
    The church definitely published the manifesto, so I fail to understand how an article stating such could possibly be false.

    I feel that with all of the deeply troubling and, frankly, frightening new information coming out of the woodwork about this "church", you'd have to be out of your fucking mind to put someone in the White House who claims to be actively involved in it.

    Hah, same could be said for someone who's family was in bed with the Nazis, the Bin Ladens and the country who caused 9/11, but here we are.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Hah, same could be said for someone who's family was in bed with the Nazis, the Bin Ladens and the country who caused 9/11, but here we are.

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    LOL that's yawn worthy? connections to the most genocidal regime in history, on top of the family who's member allegedly caused 9/11 and assfucking the country that formented it?

    Strange priorities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    LOL that's yawn worthy? connections to the most genocidal regime in history, on top of the family who's member allegedly caused 9/11 and assfucking the country that formented it?

    Strange priorities
    Oh come now Grimm, did you actually think that people like to hear about facts around here?
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