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    Obama confronts racial division in US
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    Barack Obama unsparingly criticized his longtime pastor's words while strongly defending the man himself Tuesday in a politically risky speech that appealed to the country to overcome racism and the black anger and white resentment it spawns.
    Forming a more perfect union "requires all Americans to realize that your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams," said the Illinois senator running to be the first black president.
    "This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected," he said.
    In his most pointed speech of the campaign, Obama confronted the nation's legacy of racial division head on, tackling black grievance, white resentment and the uproar over his former pastor's incendiary statements. Drawing on his half-black, half-white roots as no other presidential hopeful could, Obama urged Americans to break "a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years.'"
    "The anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races," he said in a speech at the National Constitution Center, not far from where the Declaration of Independence was adopted.
    The speech was the most racially tinged during his campaign to become the first black president, covering divisions from slavery to the O.J. Simpson trial to the recovery efforts after Hurricane Katrina, along with his own background. Obama rarely talks so openly about his race in such a prominent way, but he recognized it has been a major issue in the campaign that has taken a "particularly divisive turn" in the last few weeks as video of his longtime pastor spread on the Internet and on television.
    Obama's advisers say the candidate decided on Saturday to make the speech and spent much of Sunday and Monday writing it, finishing shortly before he took the stage. They said Philadelphia was chosen not because it has the highest concentration of blacks in Pennsylvania, the next state to vote on April 22, but because of its historical significance.
    Obama said sermons delivered by his longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, "rightly offend white and black alike." Those sermons from years ago suggested the United States brought the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on itself and say blacks continue to be mistreated by whites.
    While Obama rejected what Wright said, he also embraced the man who inspired his Christian faith, officiated at his wedding, baptized his two daughters and has been his spiritual guide for nearly 20 years.
    "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community," Obama said, speaking in front of eight American flags. "I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."
    Obama said he knew Wright to occasionally be a fierce critic of U.S. policy and that the pastor sometimes made controversially remarks in church that he disagreed with, but he said he never heard Wright talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms. The comments that have become a source of debate recently "were not only wrong but divisive" and have raised questions among voters, he said.
    "I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television sets and YouTube, if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way," he said. "But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man."
    Wright said shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."
    In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.
    Obama said he came to Wright's church because he was inspired by Wright's message of hope and his inspiration to rebuild the black community.
    Obama said Wright's comments have sparked a discussion that reflect complexities of race in the United States that its people have never really resolved.
    "We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country," Obama said. "But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow."
    Obama said anger over those injustices often find voice in black churches on Sunday mornings. "The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning," he said.
    Obama argued that the anger often distracts from solving real problems and bringing change. But he said it also exists in some segments of the white community that feels blacks are often given an unfair advantage through affirmative action.
    "If we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American," Obama said, drawing a rare burst of applause in a somber address.
    An Associated Press-Yahoo News poll conducted in January found 15 percent of whites said they have at least a somewhat unfavorable impression of blacks, while 26 percent expressed a favorable impression. Among blacks, 7 percent had an unfavorable impression of whites, while 49 percent have a favorable impression. "In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination — and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past — are real and must be addressed," Obama said.

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    Wonderful speech. Such a succinct and honest summary of this nation's racial reality. Bravo, Sen. Obama.

    Try to watch the speech or read a transcript of it if you can. There's a copy of the transcript over at the Huffington Post.

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    He's outing his granny as a racist? Way to go!

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    What a great speech, powerful and to the point.

    I just wish he stop giving in to arguing with Hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanna View Post
    He's outing his granny as a racist? Way to go!
    Way to take something out of context...did you even watch the speech?
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    "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community,"

    well I'm white and I can sure as fuck disown the white community when it's wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanna View Post
    He's outing his granny as a racist? Way to go!
    I find it extremely disturbing that a man who is espousing racial unity attended a church for YEARS that preaches inflammatory racial division, anti-Zionism and anti-Americanism... and speaks out about it, now and still has not left that church.

    How and the hell do you have the nerve to give a speech like this while attending and donating to a church that is opposite of what you allegedly stand for?

    This is going to follow Obama everywhere. This story will not die. And this speech is meaningless unless HE puts his money where his mouth is.

    And way to blame grandma. Nice.

    ETA: witchcurlgirl, yes! Disowning him means disowning the black community? HUH? That has to be one of the worst excuses I've ever seen. I'll be honest. A vast majority of republicans and conservatives would now rather have Hillary than Obama. His association with Wright scares the hell out a lot of people.

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    He gave a great speech. With transparency, and honesty. If it didn't do anything for you..or show you how people in his life have shaped him, and that in some way Wright holds a place in his life like a family member just like his grandmother. Someone who loves him, but had her own racial conflicts..
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    I think it's fucking hilarious neocons with their attachment to scary ass churches that preach hate are suddenly all wetting their panties over this phantom obama connection to some pastor who says controversial things.

    Im betting it's just cuz the controversial things being said don't benefit THEM in some way, or jibe with THEIR particular hateful views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    He gave a great speech. With transparency, and honesty. If it didn't do anything for you..or show you how people in his life have shaped him, and that in some way Wright holds a place in his life like a family member just like his grandmother. Someone who loves him, but had her own racial conflicts..
    You can still love someone, appreciate their influence on your life, and still take a stand as your own man.

    A speech about racial unity from a man who currently attends a racist, anti-Zionist church is the utmost in hypocrisy. If this were a republican, he would have been forced to drop out from the race, etc.

    Oh and, 'we the people, in order to form a more perfect union' is NOT the Declaration of Independence. Its the preamble to the Constitution. You'd think a Presidential candidate would know that.

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    I think he had a good point-we all know & love anyway some twits with mind-boggling views on a few things, They are hopeless on some things, but basically good people.In general, they will be older people. I think we just accept it & move on. No way are we going to take on those views & changing an elderly person's time warp on things is pretty hopeless. It happens everywhere. To cut off a relationship with an elderly person in the last years of their life for political gain would be the mark of a self serving, rigid thinking SOB.
    I say he's right. Deal with it and just move on-we all know better now.
    Another thing: I have sat through a bunch of sermons ,knowing full well I wasn't about to change how I felt about XYZ. Preachers sometimes use dramatic wording,etc-maybe just trying to keep everyone awake. Sort of their job. This old-timey preacher was just basically saying "Clean up your act and lead a good life" which we all ought to strive for, sometimes they get carried away. To most of us now alternate lifestyles are accepted, but we still want those persons to be loving,kind,law abiding and productive citizens. Most preachers exaggerate flaws to get the point across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkdgirl View Post
    You can still love someone, appreciate their influence on your life, and still take a stand as your own man.

    A speech about racial unity from a man who currently attends a racist, anti-Zionist church is the utmost in hypocrisy. If this were a republican, he would have been forced to drop out from the race, etc.

    Oh and, 'we the people, in order to form a more perfect union' is NOT the Declaration of Independence. Its the preamble to the Constitution. You'd think a Presidential candidate would know that.
    Have you heard some of the crap out of the mouths of BILLY GRAHAM, JERRY FARWELL, PAT ROBINSON.... give me a break!! I've seen the 700 club!! They are the republican come to Jesus leaders!!

    and please reread the WHOLE SPEECH...because he mentioned the Constitution...
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    ^^ However, neither Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson are the "Spiritual Advisors" to any of the current candidates.

    Obama made a grave error with this man...and the repubs will gleefully nail him to the cross for it.

    The Repub attack machine plays for blood. Like it or not, this has hurt Obama badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    ^^ However, neither Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson are the "Spiritual Advisors" to any of the current candidates.

    Obama made a grave error with this man...and the repubs will gleefully nail him to the cross for it.

    The Repub attack machine plays for blood. Like it or not, this has hurt Obama badly.
    They were spiritual advisers to the whole republican party, for very long periods of time..but like have been said in many other places the only difference is...oh never mind

    Thank you for telling me what I have to like.. I've never saw things the way my parents and grandparents have seen things. However, I have always played with every color that came in my crayon box, and never looked back. So, the need to bridge the gap between the generations is out there, and anyone who doesn't want this to take place-would like things to stay the same!! I have been to Churches where I felt that I, nor any of my friends were welcomed. This doesn't even touch on the hatred that exist out there in many Churches.. So maybe it hit home to many people who sit in these pews, that the anti-gay, anti-white, anti-black, and or anti-american sermon that is given can or will reflect bad on me if I don't take a stand now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    Have you heard some of the crap out of the mouths of BILLY GRAHAM, JERRY FARWELL, PAT ROBINSON.... give me a break!! I've seen the 700 club!! They are the republican come to Jesus leaders!!

    and please reread the WHOLE SPEECH...because he mentioned the Constitution...
    Yes, I know what they have said. And they were equally wrong. But they didn't sit in their church for 20 years with a man preaching hatred and then try to excuse obvious racial and religious rhetoric as misunderstood either.

    All the pretty words and casting of blame does not change the fact that he attended a church espousing racial divide, anti-Zionism and anti-Americanism... and didn't run the other way.

    How can anyone take him seriously if he can't even be the example he wants others to believe is possible?

    Anyone who attends a church that preaches hate- I don't care what color you are- run the other way.

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